Brabus 63 AMG Twin-Turbo
03-05-2009, 03:32 PM
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Brabus 63 AMG Twin-Turbo
http://www.tuningnews.net/article/09...ml-63-biturbo/
Read the article. This engineering seems to be a jewel of engineering, Overpriced as usual with Brabus.
I could'nt stop staring at the engine Pic, I dreamed for so long of a Twin Turbo 6.2 AMG V8.
Brabus presents this engine on a ML. but maybe on other cars in the future.
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03-05-2009, 03:36 PM
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CLK 63 Black Series, 2009 S550, 2011 Range Rover Supercharged, BMW F800 GS Anniv Edition
um...... WOW !!!
"Forged BRABUS pistons provide a charger-friendly compression ratio of 9.0:1."
Guess someone figured the stock 11:3.1 was too high - LOL
"Forged BRABUS pistons provide a charger-friendly compression ratio of 9.0:1."
Guess someone figured the stock 11:3.1 was too high - LOL
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"To avoid negative effects on the system from excessive exhaust-gas pressures the manifolds are designed to utilize the exhaust from only three of the four cylinders on each side of the engine V for driving the turbochargers."
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Uhh... am I the only one thinking this? but, that much effort and 510 -> 650... that's not a major gain? I mean renntech headers, ECU and those other bolt-on's get you to like 600, don't they? (mostly because out stock headers suck ***.) I was thinking 800hp+ ??? I will be the first to admit I don't know that much, but...
03-05-2009, 04:19 PM
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To avoid negative effects on the system from excessive exhaust-gas pressures the manifolds are designed to utilize the exhaust from only three of the four cylinders on each side of the engine V for driving the turbochargers.
03-05-2009, 04:22 PM
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Actually, you are the one that needs to get your eyes checked...or maybe learn how to read.
"To avoid negative effects on the system from excessive exhaust-gas pressures the manifolds are designed to utilize the exhaust from only three of the four cylinders on each side of the engine V for driving the turbochargers."
"To avoid negative effects on the system from excessive exhaust-gas pressures the manifolds are designed to utilize the exhaust from only three of the four cylinders on each side of the engine V for driving the turbochargers."
03-05-2009, 04:22 PM
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The pictures look like four to me too but the article that is linked to in the original post says differently
To avoid negative effects on the system from excessive exhaust-gas pressures the manifolds are designed to utilize the exhaust from only three of the four cylinders on each side of the engine V for driving the turbochargers.
To avoid negative effects on the system from excessive exhaust-gas pressures the manifolds are designed to utilize the exhaust from only three of the four cylinders on each side of the engine V for driving the turbochargers.
03-05-2009, 04:23 PM
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The pictures look like four to me too but the article that is linked to in the original post says differently
To avoid negative effects on the system from excessive exhaust-gas pressures the manifolds are designed to utilize the exhaust from only three of the four cylinders on each side of the engine V for driving the turbochargers.
To avoid negative effects on the system from excessive exhaust-gas pressures the manifolds are designed to utilize the exhaust from only three of the four cylinders on each side of the engine V for driving the turbochargers.
03-05-2009, 04:25 PM
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Uhh... am I the only one thinking this? but, that much effort and 510 -> 650... that's not a major gain? I mean renntech headers, ECU and those other bolt-on's get you to like 600, don't they? (mostly because out stock headers suck ***.) I was thinking 800hp+ ??? I will be the first to admit I don't know that much, but...
I'm pretty sure we will have larger numbers if brabus put this engine in rear wheel drive coupe & sedans .
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Uhh... am I the only one thinking this? but, that much effort and 510 -> 650... that's not a major gain? I mean renntech headers, ECU and those other bolt-on's get you to like 600, don't they? (mostly because out stock headers suck ***.) I was thinking 800hp+ ??? I will be the first to admit I don't know that much, but...
You have a point....sure they could have gotten 800+hp, but the reliability would have gone down and the transmission would be destroyed. Although, they did say in the article that the transmission had been upgraded. Also, I think running the power through all 4 wheels is easier on the drive train than just turning the rear wheels.
As far as only 3 cylinders per side spinning the turbos....you can clearly see in the pic how the last exhaust port has it's own dedicated manifold that is only connected to the others BEHIND the turbo. It's a strange setup...very trick but odd. I would think the difference in backpressure would be a problem, but apparently they've figured out how to get around that. I'm not sure I've ever seen this type of setup before for a turbo...
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With a rated power output of 650 hp (641 bhp) / 478 kW at just 6,200 rpm the BRABUS engine surpasses its production counterpart by 140 hp (138 bhp) / 103 kW. Peak torque of the ML 63 Biturbo is 850 Nm (626 lb-ft), up from standard 630 Nm (464 lb-ft). It is available on a wide plateau between 3,000 and 5,500 rpm.
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I agree that 150hp is a bit minimal, but that may simply be for the turbo. Does anyone know if they have done other things like swapping out pulleys, etc?
Also, would they have not turned the turbos to full on boost? Maybe a tune could add lots more without too much drop in reliability. My concern would be the drivetrain, since the motor was built.
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Does anyone remember what the mods were on the ML63 that we checked out at brabus that day? remember they cranked it up and ooohed and aweed about it lots. All I remember was exhaust.
