W211 AMG Discuss the W211 AMG's such as the E55 and the E63
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Modified AMG mufflers and resonator delete.. Pics inside

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Rate Thread
 
Old 03-06-2009, 12:40 AM
  #1  
MBWorld Fanatic!
Thread Starter
 
Max.H's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: San Diego
Posts: 3,682
Received 38 Likes on 37 Posts
E55
Modified AMG mufflers and resonator delete.. Pics inside

Here are a few pics I took while modifying the exhaust system on my E55. First order of business was 3 inch straight pipes in place of the resonator. Next part was a little tricky. I had no idea where to cut open the mufflers. So after few minutes of contemplating, i decided where to make the cuts. Here are some pics.

Basically, the exhaust gases flow into the mufflers and loop through a U bend into a small chamber on the backside of the muffler. The gases then travel into dual resonated pipes that are tightly wrapped with steel wool. It then exits the mufflers through the dual tips.

Ideally You want to delete the u bend and the 2 small pipes, making the muffler a straight through design.


While I was there. I met a guy with a pretty clean 5 series, so i snapped a few pics. Sorry for the poor quality. My camera is hurting. Enjoy.











Removed the factory resonator.






Now for the good stuff. Here is a shot of the inside of the muffler pre gutting.





This is with the upper u bend cut. Below the layers of fiberglass are 2 resonated pipes that lead to the exhaust tips.. At first I wanted to cut all the baffles out and make it straight through. I was cutting it close (time wise) for my dinner plans, so the u bend was welded back in place for now.




This is the packing from one muffler. if you dont cut in the right spot you will not be able to access all the fiberglass and steel wool.



A shot of the gutting process.




Here's how they look after removing all the packing.



Tacked in place before seem welding it all back together.




The whole process took about 3.5 hours. It was very tedious but well worth it IMO.

First Impression: The car definitely has a rumble to it at idle and burbles when you drive partial throttle. Crack the throttle wide open and the sound comes alive with a nice deep growl. It sounds good but its not outrageously loud. BTW the car will get louder after a few days of driving on it hard.

Butt Dyno says, it feels a tad quicker. Nothing crazy.. It's probably just a placebo effect of the sound.

I'm thinking of selling these mufflers and removing the baffles on another set. For an increase in power, I will be deleting the primary cats. I will snap some more pics when I do. Thanks for looking.

Last edited by Max.H; 03-06-2009 at 12:52 AM.
Old 03-06-2009, 12:58 AM
  #2  
Senior Member
 
mprsev's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: HI transplant in Seattle
Posts: 488
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
2024 G63, 2021 X7M50i
Great post thanks! I was very curious about this myself, especially after hearing a C63 and SL63 that sound so much better than my car.
Old 03-06-2009, 01:04 AM
  #3  
MBWorld Fanatic!
Thread Starter
 
Max.H's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: San Diego
Posts: 3,682
Received 38 Likes on 37 Posts
E55
Originally Posted by mprsev
Great post thanks! I was very curious about this myself, especially after hearing a C63 and SL63 that sound so much better than my car.
The E63 has a better sound due the nature of the NA high compression and large displacement engine. Sound is greatly improved on your car just by removing your resonator.

The E55 has a different sound. Not as loud, it burbles down low and the exhaust note increases as the boost comes on.
Old 03-06-2009, 01:22 AM
  #4  
Member
 
veightkiller's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Raincouver
Posts: 169
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
335i e90 / C63 / R6
any video clip on the one?
Old 03-06-2009, 03:02 AM
  #5  
Super Moderator
 
BenzoBoi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: SoCal
Posts: 11,664
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
W221
Very nice Max!
Old 03-06-2009, 03:08 AM
  #6  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
chiromikey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 6,649
Received 207 Likes on 157 Posts
'03 E55, Range Rover Sport Supercharged, Ducati 748R
thanks!!!
Old 03-06-2009, 03:18 AM
  #7  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
MB_Forever's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: California, USA
Posts: 9,137
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
E63 P30, CL500 Sport
Great post Max I was always very curious about how much better we can make the sound of the exhaust by doing this. Any chance you'll upload a sound clip?
Old 03-06-2009, 03:40 AM
  #8  
MBWorld Fanatic!
Thread Starter
 
Max.H's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: San Diego
Posts: 3,682
Received 38 Likes on 37 Posts
E55
Thanks Sun.

It was my pleasure Mike.

Mo, I will be making sounds clips soon.. Hopefully this weekend.

On side note, I was talking with vegastrashed today and we have concluded that the 55 muffler is quieter then the 63 muffler to begin with. I am curious to open a 63 muffler and take a look. My guess is is the flow pattern might have been altered for increased sound and performance.

If anyone with a 63 in socal area is interested in trying this out. Let me know, and I can make the arrangements.

Last edited by Max.H; 03-06-2009 at 03:43 AM.
Old 03-06-2009, 03:42 AM
  #9  
Senior Member
 
storm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 286
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Mercedes,Porsche etc
Originally Posted by MB_Forever
Great post Max I was always very curious about how much better we can make the sound of the exhaust by doing this. Any chance you'll upload a sound clip?
---------------------------

DOOD !! what did you do? lol

to remove the sound deading in a muffler and cut it open ruins the muffler,, as it will drone,, and you dont need a muffler that big anymore
cause it was that big to begin with because it needed the sound deadening material,, now with all that extra space its a giant echo chamber..

thats why straight through mufflers,, and race mufflers that dont have wool and deadening materials in them ARE SMALLER !!! lol
sound they dont have the extra room for sound to bounce all over the place and pick up harmonics,,

anyone who knows anything about sound,, knows this, its sound 101

louder mufflers have a more straigh through design YES< but they are also smaller becasue they dont need the extra room for the wook materials
and dont want the echo chamber and thus DRONE and resonance.

the welds under pressure, and miles will likely not hold as well on the muffler, and it could leak..

honestly,, a ghetto, move,, cant see anyone, with a right mind with a mercedes buying these.. when you can get REMUS, and other universal mufflers brand new for under $300ea.

cutting open mufflers and rewelding them is something you see in TIAJUANNA mexico,, not here.

sorry to be harsh,, but its true,, so many better ways to make the car sound better..

1 del resonator,,
OR
2 X-pipe
OR
3new smaller and louder mufflers. NEW
OR
4 High FLow Racing cats or no cats..

5 headers..

6 combo of the above,, to custom tune it.
Old 03-06-2009, 03:53 AM
  #10  
MBWorld Fanatic!
Thread Starter
 
Max.H's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: San Diego
Posts: 3,682
Received 38 Likes on 37 Posts
E55
I think the car sounds great. No drone here..

As far as performance goes its hard to tell, the esp lights comes on tad earlier though.

I saw the welds and they are clean. I highly doubt they will leak. First of all the muffler will never get that hot and second it is not holding that much pressure to break a solid bead of weld. So, that theory goes right out the window.

I know what you are saying and I appreciate your criticism and insight. But, this is aint my first rodeo. I don't do anything on a whim. Unless ofcourse the girl is cute and has valid ID. LoL jk.. Just about everything I do is well thought out and planned.

Some things can be explained but when it comes to cars.. I have seen some weird stuff actually work. Book smarts and your experience might tell you that the car should drone like crazy, but it does not. You notice the car is slightly louder and deeper. Nothing I would consider annoying or sounding cheap.

Don't jump the gun so soon. Wait for the sound clips and then pass judgment.

Last edited by Max.H; 03-06-2009 at 04:46 AM.
Old 03-06-2009, 04:19 AM
  #11  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Havoc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Sin City
Posts: 1,863
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 3 Posts
2005 E55 AMG - - 2005 SL55 AMG - - - - - - 2006 SLK55 AMG - - - - - - 2013 Ducati Diavel AMG -
Originally Posted by Max.H
I think the car sounds great. No drone here..
+1
Vadim gutted my stock AMG mufflers and I noticed no drone either. At the time I still had the stock headers, cats, and resonators though.
Old 03-06-2009, 04:55 AM
  #12  
MBWorld Fanatic!
Thread Starter
 
Max.H's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: San Diego
Posts: 3,682
Received 38 Likes on 37 Posts
E55
Havoc: All I have to say is.. Sweet mother of Jesus, look at that mod list!! Sorry, I just had to get that off my chest.. Back on topic.
Old 03-06-2009, 05:09 AM
  #13  
Senior Member
 
ECBAOBAO's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 416
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
nascar
Hey Max, I'm located in Irvine also.

Do you think I can meet up with you and hear it in person?

Thanks
Old 03-06-2009, 05:21 AM
  #14  
MBWorld Fanatic!
Thread Starter
 
Max.H's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: San Diego
Posts: 3,682
Received 38 Likes on 37 Posts
E55
Originally Posted by ECBAOBAO
Hey Max, I'm located in Irvine also.

Do you think I can meet up with you and hear it in person?

Thanks
Yes.. But, only if you go to sleep! My god, its 2am.. What are you doing up so late? jk. As for myself.. I'm never drinking earl grey tea late at night again. I am friggin still awake.

Shoot me a pm.
Old 03-06-2009, 06:09 AM
  #15  
Senior Member
 
ECBAOBAO's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 416
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
nascar
Hahah..let's meet up right now then! jk lol

I have to pick up my roommate from a party so I had to stay awake, hahah. Plus, I'm studying for finals..

Where in Irvine are you located?

I gutted my mufflers and straight piped reso and 2nd cat and my car gets really raspy up top, dunno if you saw my post..loll
Old 03-06-2009, 06:10 AM
  #16  
Former Vendor of MBWorld
iTrader: (1)
 
shardul's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Houston
Posts: 12,139
Received 293 Likes on 242 Posts
2003 W211 E55, 2003 W220 S600
Very nice info. Should make this a sticky.
On a side note if you ever want to swap mufflers let me know.
Old 03-06-2009, 09:50 AM
  #17  
Member
 
reeper6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Pembroke Pines ,Fl
Posts: 103
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
2004 MB E55
WOW! Thanks for posting this Max, exactly what I want to do to my car.

Subscribing to sound clips.

^+2 to sticky this post!
Old 03-06-2009, 11:08 AM
  #18  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
prodigymb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Philly
Posts: 2,171
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
997TT, R8 V10+, G550, Plaid S
need sound clips. i have been thinking about doing this for a while now. good writeup/pics
Old 03-06-2009, 11:11 AM
  #19  
Super Member
 
efivefiveamg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: SoCal
Posts: 810
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
2004 E55
Originally Posted by ECBAOBAO
Hahah..let's meet up right now then! jk lol

I have to pick up my roommate from a party so I had to stay awake, hahah. Plus, I'm studying for finals..

Where in Irvine are you located?

I gutted my mufflers and straight piped reso and 2nd cat and my car gets really raspy up top, dunno if you saw my post..loll
Don't leave me out guys! Max, thanks for the write-up. Let me know when you guys plan on meeting b/c if you don't mind me tagging along I'm curious to hear both cars.
Old 03-06-2009, 11:31 AM
  #20  
Super Member
 
Mathmik's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: MARYLAND
Posts: 680
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
14-F Sport, 07-CLS63 2003-HUMMER 2004-Suburban 2008-MAX 2005-YZF R1
sound clip sound clip! ! !
Old 03-06-2009, 12:48 PM
  #21  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
bobgodd's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: San Diego
Posts: 1,760
Received 39 Likes on 33 Posts
2004 E55
Originally Posted by ECBAOBAO
Hahah..let's meet up right now then! jk lol

I have to pick up my roommate from a party so I had to stay awake, hahah. Plus, I'm studying for finals..

Where in Irvine are you located?

I gutted my mufflers and straight piped reso and 2nd cat and my car gets really raspy up top, dunno if you saw my post..loll
If you guys meet up I want in on this. I want to compare sounds as well.
Old 03-06-2009, 12:56 PM
  #22  
Member
 
AudiOn19s's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Columbus OH
Posts: 132
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
A4, M3, 996, E55
slightly OT but how much louder do you think it'll get if you do take out the U-bend inside the muffler and make it a straight through design?
Old 03-06-2009, 01:22 PM
  #23  
Former Vendor of MBWorld
iTrader: (1)
 
shardul's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Houston
Posts: 12,139
Received 293 Likes on 242 Posts
2003 W211 E55, 2003 W220 S600
when you all meet up please have someone take videos
Old 03-06-2009, 01:24 PM
  #24  
Almost a Member!
 
Charged55's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Hacienda Heights, CA
Posts: 53
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
04 E55, 89 MR2 S/C
I think i've been to this muffler shop...when are you guys planning to meet? I'm kinda curious also...
Old 03-06-2009, 01:33 PM
  #25  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Vader55's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: OC
Posts: 2,319
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
AMG E55, Stage 1, Strait Pipe from Primary Cats
Nice Max, the baffles need to go to though? Here is Psuball setup and I believe he removed the baffles too....I love it, I imagine yours is similar to this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jbHZkk7LaU


You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.

Quick Reply: Modified AMG mufflers and resonator delete.. Pics inside



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:18 PM.