Mathmik

Gotta sell the Benz. Can't afford both! Atleast not in this economy

Mathmik

I will be putting the CLS63 up for sale begaining of April. I just put new PS2's on it too.... Lambo here I come!!!!!

JAYCL600

i better see this one run

jpohl402

So are you waiting until that car sells to buy the Gallardo ?
You may be waiting a while (not as much buyers as previously) --
If you're impatient like me you would just take your loss and trade in the car for Gallardo (I don't like waiting for things once I have my mind set on them lol)

Congrats & good luck !

MJ50

since it won't be a daily car, i'd say go for it!

Mathmik

Thanks I hope all goes well I'm not upside down like most are! I know i won't get top dollar for it but the Gallardo is running dirt cheap compared to 2yrs ago when i bought the CLS. Wish me luck.

jpohl402

Best of luck to you my man !
Keep us posted and add photos of the new car,
You will enjoy it immensely....
Have you driven one before ?
I dislike the fact they feel a bit crammed inside, but the driving aspect is great !

Marcus Frost

Carl I don't like stereotyping, but I have to admit I really agree with your mentality but in my experience would find that our opinions on the matter find themselves in the extreme minority in your neck of the woods

-m

Marcus Frost

I wouldn't be so sure of that. I've driven/raced MANY a Gallardo, e-gear, 6-speed, you name it. The truth is they really don't trap that high, nor are they that fast. They feel fast, and sound awesome, but don't assume it would walk your CLS. A CLS63 versus a Gallardo would be a GREAT race, if it was an E63 I'd put the money on the E.

The LP560-4... that's a totally different story.

-m

Mathmik

Yes i driven one before? ...I have never driven the Manual, just the E-gear, which I perfer!

Mathmik

I have no doubt that my CLS would hang through the 1/4. I never said it wouldn't but once the 1/4 is over the Lambo will start to shine! Its gonna start to pull my CLS63 its not the horsepower its the gearing it has I believe. I'm no pro in gearing and racing but it was noticeable how it started to shine up top when I was driving it. I love my Benz no doubt its a one of a kind vehicle but I'm really not enjoying all the bells and whistles, its truly being used as a toy. Its never seen rain,snow and its been in the garage since November so I decided to get a real toy Lambo and maybe i will look into a LP-560 of course I have a budget. so that depends on how much more it cost. Anyways I would love to see a video made of Stock E63 or CLS63 vs a Stock Gallardo from a roll (60mph) and see the out come!! hint hint hint!

Mathmik

Better yet I will even use my car if I can find a person with a Gallardo in the DC area that be willing to do it. I know a Place

Marcus Frost

Please don't take my post as inflammatory, you were asking for opinions/experiences and I am just posting mine.

1/4 mile trap speed is a figure that really shows how cars stack up - and not just in the 1/4 mile. To a certain extent it is not perfect, but at the same time it's one of the best benchmarks out there that is widely available.

I've raced Gallardos up to 150mph and I am telling you, they do not shine on top as much as you would think. They do have AWD, and that does hurt at speed, even though they have high a redline. I'm not saying this to discourage you from getting one, I'm just letting you know that you should give your CLS more credit

For what its worth: the Gallardo and 997TT were the two main competitors when I bought my SL65, and obviously you can see the outcome of that decision.

Good luck,

-m

Mathmik

I understand where you coming from trust me! You have a 65 Right? thats a different story I love that car and the Lady likes it over any Benz including the SLR. Back to what I was gonna say, I ran a 12.5 @ 113mph in th 1/4 most lambos Gallardo trap 117 to 118 in the 1/4 stock. From a 60 mph roll up to 150 my money is on the Gallardo Not trying to put down my car but my chances are slim. When it all comes down to it I'm looking at the Lambo because I want a "toy" and their more affordable now.

Mathmik

I do apprecate your input your input, its very helpful and your ride is hot!

TMC M5

Mathmik:

I personally love the Gallardo...and the people that make it (I visited the factory/museum in S'Agata Bolognese and they were 1,000,000 times nicer and more personable than the Ferrari people). With that said...you should factor in the maintenance/repair costs on the Gallardo...especially with e-gear. The e-gear tranny isn't cheap...I would do a little research on some of the repair and maintenance costs of the specific car you are interested in. If I remember correctly, the clutch replacement is in the $2-4K range...and a serious problem with e-gear can run above $10K. I believe Lamborghini's have a 3 year warranty...and that can explain the huge depreciation on the 2005 models.

Other than the e-gear, I hear that that car is pretty bullet-proof.

Good luck...and I hope you find the perfect one!!!

Tom

Mathmik

Yes I been researching that, Thanks alot for the info. The Lambo forum guys are pretty cool peoples too

TMC M5

Oh...and you can always mod the Gallardo if you think it is "too slow":

http://www.caranddriver.com/buying_g...on+id-275.html



Tom

MB_Forever

I guess if you really intend to use it "occasionally" or as a weekend car, then the Galardo would be a very fun and exotic toy to have. But you will never be as comfortable in it as you are in the CLS (not to mention all the other luxury features).

If you can get an LP560, then in terms of decision, game over

Mathmik

I've thought about that too. I will miss the Luxury of the CLS63

MB_Forever

How come you don't drive it as an everyday car? By the way, yours has got to be the fastest stock CLS63 out there.

Mathmik

I don't want it sitting out in a parking garage every day getting door dings . I bought it as a "Toy" to be honest and now with the economy where it is today I can purchase a Gallardo for $100Kto $116K with low miles. I wish I could keep both but I can't convince the wife that we need 2 high end cars that I will only drive 7000 miles a yr I might try and get 10,000 miles this yr.... lol

CWW

You can get a nice gallardo for under $90k these days. Shop around, it sounds like you might be getting ready to over pay.

Also, not trying to start up another argument, but Marcus is 100% spot-on about the gallardo's speed. And he's not talking about his SL65, I am sure he had a few runs when he had his E55. The gallardo's best performance area is 0-60, owing to the 4-wheel drive. After that, the driveline losses continue to mount the faster you go and it has a definite power disadvantage at the top end vs. a 2wd car.

TMC M5

http://motortrend.automotive.com/389...rformance.html

I think this Motor Trend test is more indicitive of the Gallardo's performance...which is a little slower than an E55's performance. something was definitely off in that other test.

Tom

TMC M5

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...cs+page-2.html

CLS63 0-150: 23.5 100-150: 13.7 (23.5-9.8)

04 Gallardo 0-150: 21.4 100-150: 12.2 (21.4-9.2)

See attached Car & Driver pdf.

Tom