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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 02:28 PM
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just listening to the vids from 3/23 should make it obvious there was no n2o used.

again, nice damned job ahmad!!!
Old Mar 25, 2009 | 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by indyjoe
LZH is the ultimate e-hater.

The guy is a joke.


Luke, are you willing to put up 10k that Ahmed runs the same time or better in the 1/4 with verification that he is not using NOS? We need to come up with a clear bet. You're trying to make him look bad and discredit his achievement, so please agree to the bet or STFU. How many runs are allowed and when would you be able to fly out to MIR?

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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 06:56 PM
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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 07:38 PM
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Congratulations on your excellent results and I commend you on your tenacious pursuit of these records. This takes commitment, plain and simple. Props

There are so many starters, and so few finishers, and you my friend are a finisher indeed! You have our attention and respect!
Old Mar 25, 2009 | 11:31 PM
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Awesome. Unreal 60' times for a luxury car.
Last time I checked, luxury cars have a passanger seat...

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Ill back Ahmad on that one. He had that car stripped down to nothing.
Old Mar 25, 2009 | 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by indyjoe
LZH is the ultimate e-hater.

The guy is a joke.


Luke, are you willing to put up 10k that Ahmed runs the same time or better in the 1/4 with verification that he is not using NOS? We need to come up with a clear bet. You're trying to make him look bad and discredit his achievement, so please agree to the bet or STFU. How many runs are allowed and when would you be able to fly out to MIR?

Thanks
I've posted my terms for the bet...Ahmad has conveniently ignored it after opening his big mouth in another thread commenting about how slow my car is.
You cheerleaders need to give it a rest. I was perfectly happy letting Ahmad have his moment in the spotlight until a few other members PM'd me about him spraying and then Ahmad opened his big mouth in the Texas mile thread and started talkin ***** for no reason whatsoever.

FUNNY HOW ALL YOU CHUMPS OVERLOOK THAT FACT !

My offer still stands, Ahmad. Too bad you don't have the ***** to back up all your big talk. If I had come in here out of the blue and called you out, I would be happy to agree to your terms. But, that was not the case and you continue talk trash and then expect me to agree to your terms ???
I've given you my terms, hell, I even said we don't have to run for pink slips and you start throwin money around....$10k to race...after you start takin trash about how much my car costs then try to point the finger at me and say all I do is talk about money ???!!! Please, beyotch....I NEVER bring up money unless some retard like you mentions it first.
How many more concessions would you like me to make ?? Simple fact is that I have never claimed my car is quick at the strip nor have I EVER said Ahmads car is slow. Only Ahmad continues to fuel this fire by taking pot shots at my car and calling it slow. Well, I've given him the opportunity to see just how slow it is and he has tucked tail and run for cover.
OK Ahmad...I'll sweeten the deal for you. I bring my car to MIR and race you. Then you have to bring your car to Willow and race me. If you do not beat me at Willow by a larger margin than I loose to you at MIR, you owe me $10k. I figure I can come within 2 seconds of you at the drags and I'll leave my car bone stock....you still think my car is slow ?? Think you can get within 2 seconds of me on a road course ??? Put your money where you mouth is and lets do this.

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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by chiromikey
just listening to the vids from 3/23 should make it obvious there was no n2o used.

again, nice damned job ahmad!!!
Thanks Mikey
Originally Posted by URnext
+1 Couldnt have said it better myself.
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Originally Posted by DerekFSU
Awesome. Unreal 60' times for a luxury car.
Thank you! It definitely napped my head back on the launch
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Ahmad

Congratulations on your excellent results and I commend you on your tenacious pursuit of these records. This takes commitment, plain and simple. Props

There are so many starters, and so few finishers, and you my friend are a finisher indeed! You have our attention and respect!
Thank you very much. That means alot ot me
Originally Posted by LZH
Last time I checked, luxury cars have a passanger seat...
I have cut 1.55 60's with full interior hater.

And as for the terms of your bet. I never claimed anything about a roadcourse. You claimed I was spraying, now put up or shut up. In the Texa Mile thread I said your car is slow. You think your car is fast in the mile? I said you couldn't even keep up with Benzgal if you sprayed, am I wrong? SLOWWWWW

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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by jrcart
These coments are not entirely true, the gains would obviously be dependent on the amount of nitrous pushed through the engine, on my car a 100 shot results in about 3/10th improvement in e/t and a 4-5 mph increase in my trap speed over a N/A Non-nitrous pass. When I was running a 70 shot I was seeing less than 2/10th and about 3 mph. Furthermore my car on a 100 shot only traps at 128-130, my car has a different gear ratio than Ahmads and the 7 speeds are trapping higher than 6 speeds due to this. Even if we ran identical 60's and identical e/t's my car would trap on average about 3mph faster than Ahamds car or any 55 for that matter, don't believe me, go take alook at the fastest Benz list, I have one of the highest trap speeds, but only number 10 or 12 on the e/t list. That being said a blown motor will usually see slightly higher net gains with spray than a N/A motor does, but not signifacantly more.

The trap speeds and gains are definetly in line with what might happen if he sprayed, but be certain I am not saying he sprayed, but I am saying there is a lot of mathmatical evidence that says he could have.

I am not making any allogations or trying to dis-credit Ahmad, but I too was contacted by a couple people yesterday that stated Ahamd did indeed spray...again, I am NOT saying this happend but everyone that has ever been a street racer knows if you really want to make sure somebody is not "sneaky pete'in", you ask them to unhook the solenoids, bottles can be hidden anywhere. I could really care less if he sprayed or not, the fact of the matter is that he holds the records fair and square and you can bet I will be spraying my azz off trying to chase his record down. 10.78 is all I see, I don't care about the blower, I don't care about NOS, I don't care about turbos, an E/T is and E/T, a record is a record.
Believe it or not, a major tuner told me a story about a "sneakly pete" Muscle car that had the entire setup (bottle and controls) behind the dashboard and won lots of cash at the track until somebody wised up and insisted on a full inspection . I thought it was humorous but I seriously doubt this can be done on a small Euro coupe. As you said, a record is a record and I plan to run my car both with and without NOS when it finally leaves Vadim's shop.
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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by blackbenzz
And as for the terms of your bet. I never claimed anything about a roadcourse. You claimed I was spraying, now put up or shut up. In the Texa Mile thread I said your car is slow. You think your car is fast in the mile? I said you couldn't even keep up with Benzgal if you sprayed, am I wrong? SLOWWWWW
LOL - keep running and hiding you little pu$$y. Interesting how you mentioned spraying over in the other thread....
So you cut a 1.55 60's with full interior ?? So you want us to believe that just becasue you removed a few items (read stripped hooptie), had better tires and a better DA...that you beat your previous record by that much ??? You LIE Ahmad and you know it.
And the small sneaky pete bottles can be changed out in a matter of seconds so the fact that you did multiple passes doesn't impress me...All it does it tell me that you came prepared - there's a first time for everything I guess - LOL. Did you at least have your helmet on and window up at the staging area this time ??

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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 12:13 AM
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I have absolutely had it w/you!!!

Originally Posted by LZH
I've posted my terms for the bet...Ahmad has conveniently ignored it after opening his big mouth in another thread commenting about how slow my car is.
You cheerleaders need to give it a rest. I was perfectly happy letting Ahmad have his moment in the spotlight until a few other members PM'd me about him spraying and then Ahmad opened his big mouth in the Texas mile thread and started talkin ***** for no reason whatsoever.

FUNNY HOW ALL YOU CHUMPS OVERLOOK THAT FACT !

My offer still stands, Ahmad. Too bad you don't have the ***** to back up all your big talk. If I had come in here out of the blue and called you out, I would be happy to agree to your terms. But, that was not the case and you continue talk trash and then expect me to agree to your terms ???
I've given you my terms, hell, I even said we don't have to run for pink slips and you start throwin money around....$10k to race...after you start takin trash about how much my car costs then try to point the finger at me and say all I do is talk about money ???!!! Please, beyotch....I NEVER bring up money unless some retard like you mentions it first.
How many more concessions would you like me to make ?? Simple fact is that I have never claimed my car is quick at the strip nor have I EVER said Ahmads car is slow. Only Ahmad continues to fuel this fire by taking pot shots at my car and calling it slow. Well, I've given him the opportunity to see just how slow it is and he has tucked tail and run for cover.
OK Ahmad...I'll sweeten the deal for you. I bring my car to MIR and race you. Then you have to bring your car to Willow and race me. If you do not beat me at Willow by a larger margin than I loose to you at MIR, you owe me $10k. I figure I can come within 2 seconds of you at the drags and I'll leave my car bone stock....you still think my car is slow ?? Think you can get within 2 seconds of me on a road course ??? Put your money where you mouth is and lets do this.
Originally Posted by LZH
Last time I checked, luxury cars have a passanger seat...
The mods have let you ruin another thread, I'm not going to let you forget your threat to kick my ***, or to possibly bring .12 guage I'll meet you anywhere in CA. for you to back up your threats, you have my cell phn # use it!! you also played the same routine w/Carl Lassiter

Originally Posted by LZH
Anyday chump...I live in LA, so you will prob see me around Give me a flash from you taxi cab lights and we'll take it to the sidewalk.
....nothing to say there, huh toughguy ?
any jerkoff like you can say "say that to my face" while you yourself hides behind your keyboard.
Only to threaten .12 guage use if we meet you

In the CLK63 forum you said "You'll mop the floor w/me in Hartman garage ON & OFF the track" time to belly up to the bar & act on your threats!!!!! you're writing checks your body can't cash!!!

YOU HAVE MY CONTACT INFO COWARD, I'll meet you anywhere in CA, if you throw racing into mix as you've done here & in your other pathetic throwdown threats to me, know this I'll meet you @ Willow or anyother track but NOT to race ONLY TO SEE YOU FACE TO FACE @ RACE GATES...For you to act on your threat to me!!

Name the place/time! I'm sick & tired of your pathetic bully routine...

I've tried contacting Brad/Vic55/Vanos asking them why your still posting flame wars? but nothing has been done? I was threatened automatic suspension if I started another flame war like you have done here, I've held off on doing so.

But yet you continue the river of krap
Old Mar 26, 2009 | 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by LZH
LOL - keep running and hiding you little pu$$y. Interesting how you mentioned spraying over in the other thread....
So you cut a 1.55 60's with full interior ?? So you want us to believe that just becasue you removed a few items and had better tires you beat your previous record by that much ??? You LIE Ahmad and you know it.
And the small sneaky pete bottles can be changed out in a matter of seconds so the fact that you did multiple passes doesn't impress me...All it does it tell me that you came prepared - there's a first time for everything I guess - LOL. Did you at least have your helmet on and window up at the staging area this time ??
Here you go again talking tuff cursing breaking TOU again yet NO ban, you know my # name the place & time, to "Mop the floor w/me"
Old Mar 26, 2009 | 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Thericker
The mods have let you ruin another thread, I'm not going to let you forget your threat to kick my ***, or to possibly bring .12 guage I'll meet you anywhere in CA. for you to back up your threats, you have my cell phn # use it!! you also played the same routine w/Carl Lassiter



Only to threaten .12 guage use if we meet you

In the CLK63 forum you said "You'll mop the floor w/me in Hartman garage ON & OFF the track" time to belly up to the bar & act on your threats!!!!! you're writing checks your body can't cash!!!

YOU HAVE MY CONTACT INFO COWARD, I'll meet you anywhere in CA, if you throw racing into mix as you've done here & in your other pathetic throwdown threats to me, know this I'll meet you @ Willow or anyother track but NOT to race ONLY TO SEE YOU FACE TO FACE @ RACE GATES...For you to act on your threat to me!!

Name the place/time! I'm sick & tired of your pathetic bully routine...

I've tried contacting Brad/Vic55/Vanos asking them why your still posting flame wars? but nothing has been done? I was threatened automatic suspension if I started another flame war like you have done here, I've held off on doing so.

But yet you continue the river of krap
After our last go round I was asked by the mods to not engage you again in any way shape or form; you too were asked the same and you just violated it.
Now, to set the record straight. You've sent me multiple threatening PM's that I have ignored, challenging me to "meet with you face to face". You've sent me your phone number as well. I NEVER ONCE said that I would bring a .12 gauge and you are quoting me out of context. What I DID say, is that I would be crazy to meet you in some random place because; how did I know I wouldn't be staring down the business end of a shotgun???? Considering your tone and anger here today, and you willingness to violate the mods request as well as put your membership in jeopardy; it seems I made a wise decision.
Furthermore, I went on to say that if you wanted to meet, I would happily say anything to your face at Willow and I invited you to meet me there. You just said you would meet me anywhere, I told you where I was going to be and you didn't show. So quit bending the truth to meet your needs. I told you exactly where I was going to be and you didn't show !!! Ohhhhh, but now you want to meet at the track ??? Funny how today was the track day and you wern't there.
This is my last post to you.

My apologies to the mods for entertaining this guy....just trying to set the record straight.

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Originally Posted by LZH
After our last go round I was asked by the mods to not engage you again in any way shape or form; you too were asked the same and you just violated it.
Now, to set the record straight. You've sent me multiple threatening PM's that I have ignored, challenging me to "meet with you face to face". You've sent me your phone number as well. I NEVER ONCE said that I would bring a .12 gauge and you are quoting me out of context. What I DID say, is that I would be crazy to meet you in some random place because; how did I know I wouldn't be staring down the business end of a shotgun???? Considering your tone and anger here today; it seems I made a wise decision. Furthermore, I went on to say that if you wanted to meet, I would happily say anything to your face at Willow and I invited you to meet me there. You just said you would meet me anywhere, I told you where I was going to be and you didn't show. So quit bending the truth to meet your needs. I told you exactly where I was going to be and you didn't show !!! Ohhhhh, but now you want to meet at the track ??? Funny how today was the track day and you wern't there.
This is my last post to you.

My apologies to the mods for entertaining this guy....just trying to set the record straight.
The mods totally eerased that thread from clk63 forum....lol

Sad more lies from a COWARD, you said & I quote "you wern't going to meet me due to legal ramifications, & possibility you'd be straring down the business end of a .12 guage or VISA ~ VERSA" forgot that little part???

Obvious veiled threat to bring .12 guage coward!!!

I told you numerous time I'd meet you anywhere but had NO interest in racing a BS vs my SL @ Willow, it was obvious you only opted for meet there because you figured you'd have back-up lol???

please step-up ANY DATE/TIME I'll break any prior engagements for this....Come kick my *** like you threatened!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Proof of your lies about .12 guage threat...
plus your sad back peddling to possibly kick my ***....

Originally Posted by LZH
I'VE ruined this thread ?? You've got some nerve, pal. Now go run and hide with your tail between your legs.
My offer still stands....if you wanna meet up, you know where I'll be. Otherwise you have just proven your POSEUR status. And if you "don't take kindly to such behavior" then come out to Willow and do something about it casue I'll mop the Hartman garage with you - on AND off the track.
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Then digressing, w/veiled .12 guage threat..Notice "visa versa..." at end.

Originally Posted by LZH
Besides the legal ramifications, how do I know I'm not going to show up and be staring down the business end of a .12 gauge, or, visa versa...

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I NEVER ONCE said that I would bring a .12 gauge and you are quoting me out of context.
Care to rephrase that LIAR! what does OR, VISA VERSA... mean????

You 1st threatened this below, then I said ANYTIME ANYWHERE!

And if you "don't take kindly to such behavior" then come out to Willow and do something about it casue I'll mop the Hartman garage with you - on AND off the track.
You then magically changed your threat to a COWARDS PLEE....

Furthermore, I went on to say that if you wanted to meet, I would happily say anything to your face at Willow and I invited you to meet me there.
W/ZERO
come out to Willow and do something about it casue I'll mop the Hartman garage with you - on AND off the track
COWARD

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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 01:53 AM
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Cmon guys. Take it off line. Give Ahmad and his thread the respect he/it deserves. Take a few deep breadths and chill. I know I get hot-headed sometimes but this is a car forum not an MMA site or the next Kimbo Slice audition.

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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 01:57 AM
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Guys please...... don't ruin this thread Ahmad pulled an amazing accomplishment here and it is cause to celebrate. Whether he sprayed or not, these times are just amazing for the CLK55 platform.
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Originally Posted by MB_Forever
Guys please...... don't ruin this thread Ahmad pulled an amazing accomplishment here and it is cause to celebrate. Whether he sprayed or not, these times are just amazing for the CLK55 platform.
Mo I didn't ruin this thread, LZH did pulling his carnival sideshow flame-war accusing Ahmad of lying, called him countless names trying to act tuff, added retarded $10k bet etc..

I only stepped into shut him the hell up...I did this after enduring pages of LZH garbage on here...
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Mo I didn't ruin this thread, LZH did pulling his carnival sideshow flame-war accusing Ahmad of lying, called him countless names trying to act tuff, added retarded $10k bet etc..

I only stepped into shut him the hell up...I did this after enduring pages of LZH garbage on here...
If that ever happens, please pm me Sean. I would love to youtube it for the mbworld members.

And yeah, that 10.78 is absolutely ridiculous. As many have already said Ahmad, you ran an amazing time f**k the haters, you know what it is and have nothing to prove. Now, run the bottle and show them what you do boosted
Old Mar 26, 2009 | 02:34 AM
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If that ever happens, please pm me Sean. I would love to youtube it for the mbworld members.

And yeah, that 10.78 is absolutely ridiculous. As many have already said Ahmad, you ran an amazing time f**k the haters, you know what it is and have nothing to prove. Now, run the bottle and show them what you do boosted
Agreed I don't doubt for a minute Ahmad ran these incredible times w/OUT NOS
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If that ever happens, please pm me Sean. I would love to youtube it for the mbworld members.


I will be the ref
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Originally Posted by Akademiks
If that ever happens, please pm me Sean. I would love to youtube it for the mbworld members.

And yeah, that 10.78 is absolutely ridiculous. As many have already said Ahmad, you ran an amazing time f**k the haters, you know what it is and have nothing to prove. Now, run the bottle and show them what you do boosted
Amen...All Ahmad needs to to is go out and make a pass on spray and he will acomplish several things, he will easily knock 3/10th probably more off his 10.78, by doing so he will set the all time quickest MB in the world record and give any doubters the middle finger in the process.

I questioned why he did not strap a bottle on and go for the overall record early on in this thread, he is less than .25 away from the record. To be honest that is the only part of this that does not make sense to me, anyone else would have strapped on a bottle and gone for broke. I know Ahmads answer is going to be that he want to get the record without spray, and that is awesome, but if you are so anti-nitrous why even have it installed on your car in the first place. Ahmad, again this post is not an attack, I am carefully choosing my words, but put yourself in an outsiders shoes and you can see why there could be some doubt based on the couple questions I just posted.
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Amen...All Ahmad needs to to is go out and make a pass on spray and he will acomplish several things, he will easily knock 3/10th probably more off his 10.78, by doing so he will set the all time quickest MB in the world record and give any doubters the middle finger in the process.

I questioned why he did not strap a bottle on and go for the overall record early on in this thread, he is less than .25 away from the record. To be honest that is the only part of this that does not make sense to me, anyone else would have strapped on a bottle and gone for broke. I know Ahmads answer is going to be that he want to get the record without spray, and that is awesome, but if you are so anti-nitrous why even have it installed on your car in the first place. Ahmad, again this post is not an attack, I am carefully choosing my words, but put yourself in an outsiders shoes and you can see why there could be some doubt based on the couple questions I just posted.
Ahmed said he regrets putting the bottle on initially. I think he doesn't want to use NOS to mainly prove a point. I agree with you, I would've certainly put in a bottle.

If you or Luke feel so strongly that he used NOS then why not make the bet? It's really that simple. Luke is trying to hide behind his stupid Willow routine when that has nothing to do with whether Ahmed used NOS or not. He made the allegations and he's still calling Ahmed a liar. If he truly believes that then he should put up the money, and fly out to MIR for verification.

I respect you for at least trying to back up your words no matter what, but Luke is a b!tch for talking so much trash and hiding behind his keyboard.

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Your worst nightmare...
I was there and can attest ahmad ran no bottle on his car, if my words count at all.... His car is definitely a monster, just making it into the 10's consistantly should be enough to prove a point. If he sprays it's over, even for my puny V12. I'd say go for it ahmad.
If you spray I wonder what will be the excuse then..."he had a launch pack strapped at the back of his car"..., Give the man respect. He deserves all the credit in the world for taking his platform into the mid 10's almost. That is quite impressive.
Old Mar 26, 2009 | 09:59 AM
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Ahmad - Congrats on your accomplishment.

Tough to prove that you did not run nitrous to those who want to believe otherwise. I have heard the rumblings about my car a few times. Nothing like what you are getting, but it is still pretty frustrating.
Old Mar 26, 2009 | 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by LZH
I was perfectly happy letting Ahmad have his moment in the spotlight until a few other members PM'd me about him spraying
You failed to answer my question previously about this. I know it's easy to overlook with all the drama but I pose it to you again.

Were any of these "members' that PM'd you, even at the track? I was.
Old Mar 26, 2009 | 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by indyjoe
Ahmed said he regrets putting the bottle on initially. I think he doesn't want to use NOS to mainly prove a point. I agree with you, I would've certainly put in a bottle.

If you or Luke feel so strongly that he used NOS then why not make the bet? It's really that simple. Luke is trying to hide behind his stupid Willow routine when that has nothing to do with whether Ahmed used NOS or not. He made the allegations and he's still calling Ahmed a liar. If he truly believes that then he should put up the money, and fly out to MIR for verification.

I respect you for at least trying to back up your words no matter what, but Luke is a b!tch for talking so much trash and hiding behind his keyboard.

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I DO NOT feel strongly that he used a bottle, so please do not try to start a flame war with me, I am trying to post in a civil manner, all I said is that I can see how some people may be led to believe he did spray. I said it before and I will say it again, I COULD CARE LESS IF HE USED A BOTTLE OR NOT! He owns the record fair and square, and that is all I am focused on! The only thing I said is if it was me (or nearly any one of us) I/we would have strapped a bottle on and gone for broke and taken the MB all-time world record home with me, it sounds like conditions were near perfect and Ahmad had the car dialed in perfectly...all the records could have fallen that day, nobody could have said squat about it...we would not be having this conversation right now.


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