What kind of brake pads are you running?
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FYI, Porterfield offers a 20% discount to many car club members. I just ordered a new set of R4-S pads all the way around and got the 20% off.
They are fantastic pads!
They are fantastic pads!
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From: ann arbor
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I really wanted to use the Porterfield pads but when they were installed the had 2 problems:
1. Weird metallic rattle that would not stop
2. No where to place the wear sensor.
I sent them back-any changes now to address those issues?
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1. Weird metallic rattle that would not stop
2. No where to place the wear sensor.
I sent them back-any changes now to address those issues?
Joker
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Both are squeekers.
I don't remember the details, I talked to the AMG tech, you should be able to find out elsewhere on the forms on from some google, but heres what I do know.
63 brakes are multi-peice, you need multi-peice pads, 55's are a single piece.
63: 360mm/6piston front and 330/4 rear. (Aluminum hubs with ferrous rotors)
I don't remember the details, I talked to the AMG tech, you should be able to find out elsewhere on the forms on from some google, but heres what I do know.
63 brakes are multi-peice, you need multi-peice pads, 55's are a single piece.
63: 360mm/6piston front and 330/4 rear. (Aluminum hubs with ferrous rotors)
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2. They do not have provisions for the wear sensors like most performance pads. You simply take the old sensors (which you are supposed to discard at every pad change anyway), cut them at the plug, solder the wires together to bridge the plug, and connect it back to the cars harness for the pad wear sensor. You can also use nylon wire ties to secure the unused sensor away from the caliper if you don't want to do the above but it is not nearly as clean.
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1. Probably have a problem with some incorrectly installed hardware.
2. They do not have provisions for the wear sensors like most performance pads. You simply take the old sensors (which you are supposed to discard at every pad change anyway), cut them at the plug, solder the wires together to bridge the plug, and connect it back to the cars harness for the pad wear sensor. You can also use nylon wire ties to secure the unused sensor away from the caliper if you don't want to do the above but it is not nearly as clean.
2. They do not have provisions for the wear sensors like most performance pads. You simply take the old sensors (which you are supposed to discard at every pad change anyway), cut them at the plug, solder the wires together to bridge the plug, and connect it back to the cars harness for the pad wear sensor. You can also use nylon wire ties to secure the unused sensor away from the caliper if you don't want to do the above but it is not nearly as clean.
But if you just have to have a working warning light, then some guys use a Dremel and make a hole in the new pad for the sensor, using the old one as a template. Seems to work fine.
The light thing doesn't bother me, I can usually tell the brakes are getting ready for replacement by sound and pedal feel, way before the light ever comes on. So I wouldn't care about the sensors.
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I need to replace my 2006 e55 brake pads and am a little confused at some websites product offerings. how do i know if i need this Fit Note: Fits Front, With 8 Pad Front Caliper. or Fit Note: Fits Front, With 4 Pad Front Caliper? is this a preference?
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I recently went to Akebono Ceramic pads and they are great so far. No dust, no squeeks, no complaints
Akebono EUR984 Rear Ceramic Pads
Akebono EUR983 Front Disc Brake Pads
Akebono EUR984 Rear Ceramic Pads
Akebono EUR983 Front Disc Brake Pads
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cool but that still doesnt answer my question regarding 4 or 8 pad fitment.
see here
List Price: $122.43
Our Price: $116.31
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EBC REDSTUFF CERAMIC 3000 SERIES BRAKE PAD SET -- Made from high quality Kevlar fiber-based compound that is enhanced with ceramic particles; Features brake-in surface coating that provides instant brake efficiency on installation and conditions rotor surface removing glaze and scale; Shimmed, chamfered, and slotted preventing heat expansion cracks and reducing brake noise; Reduces dust by 60 to 90 percent and can be removed easily; Superb brake effect from cold up to race temperature; Engineered for highly tuned vehicles and best for high-speed spirited street driving; With EBC's limited 6-month or 10,000-mile warranty.
Fit Note: Fits Front, With 4 Pad Front Caliper.
Location: Front
Material: Ceramic
Series: Redstuff Ceramic 3000
Warranty: EBC's Limited 6-month Or 10,000-mile Warranty
List Price: $167.36
Our Price: $158.99
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EBC REDSTUFF CERAMIC 3000 SERIES BRAKE PAD SET -- Made from high quality Kevlar fiber-based compound that is enhanced with ceramic particles; Features brake-in surface coating that provides instant brake efficiency on installation and conditions rotor surface removing glaze and scale; Shimmed, chamfered, and slotted preventing heat expansion cracks and reducing brake noise; Reduces dust by 60 to 90 percent and can be removed easily; Superb brake effect from cold up to race temperature; Engineered for highly tuned vehicles and best for high-speed spirited street driving; With EBC's limited 6-month or 10,000-mile warranty.
Fit Note: Fits Front, With 8 Pad Front Caliper.
Location: Front
Material: Ceramic
Series: Redstuff Ceramic 3000
Warranty: EBC's Limited 6-month Or 10,000-mile Warranty
see here
List Price: $122.43
Our Price: $116.31
You Save: $6.12 Quantity:
EBC REDSTUFF CERAMIC 3000 SERIES BRAKE PAD SET -- Made from high quality Kevlar fiber-based compound that is enhanced with ceramic particles; Features brake-in surface coating that provides instant brake efficiency on installation and conditions rotor surface removing glaze and scale; Shimmed, chamfered, and slotted preventing heat expansion cracks and reducing brake noise; Reduces dust by 60 to 90 percent and can be removed easily; Superb brake effect from cold up to race temperature; Engineered for highly tuned vehicles and best for high-speed spirited street driving; With EBC's limited 6-month or 10,000-mile warranty.
Fit Note: Fits Front, With 4 Pad Front Caliper.
Location: Front
Material: Ceramic
Series: Redstuff Ceramic 3000
Warranty: EBC's Limited 6-month Or 10,000-mile Warranty
List Price: $167.36
Our Price: $158.99
You Save: $8.37 Quantity:
EBC REDSTUFF CERAMIC 3000 SERIES BRAKE PAD SET -- Made from high quality Kevlar fiber-based compound that is enhanced with ceramic particles; Features brake-in surface coating that provides instant brake efficiency on installation and conditions rotor surface removing glaze and scale; Shimmed, chamfered, and slotted preventing heat expansion cracks and reducing brake noise; Reduces dust by 60 to 90 percent and can be removed easily; Superb brake effect from cold up to race temperature; Engineered for highly tuned vehicles and best for high-speed spirited street driving; With EBC's limited 6-month or 10,000-mile warranty.
Fit Note: Fits Front, With 8 Pad Front Caliper.
Location: Front
Material: Ceramic
Series: Redstuff Ceramic 3000
Warranty: EBC's Limited 6-month Or 10,000-mile Warranty
Last edited by JMW529; Jul 15, 2009 at 01:53 PM.
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each one of the front calipers fit 4 brake pads for a total of 8 in a set. each one of the rear calipers fit 2 for a total 4 of in a set. best bet is to get an EBC part number and order by it.
this is directly from the ebc website for a W211 E55 amg
Part # Description
DP31490C EBC Redstuff Fast Street; Disc Pads; Rear;
DP31486C EBC Redstuff Fast Street; Disc Pads; 8 Pad Set; Front;
DP41486R EBC Yellowstuff High Friction; Disc Pads; Front;
DP41490R EBC Yellowstuff High Friction; Disc Pads; Rear;
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I did the EBC Redstuff pads and not 100% convinced as the best I could have bought. They squeel like a train stopping for the first few hundred miles and while the brake dust is less, but still significant. They do stop well but then again, so did the OEM pads IMO. I have not tracked to car to make a comparision on that front.
Given the opportunity to do it again, I would probably go with something like porterfields since they are reported to have zero dust (if that is possible). The dust ruins my rims and looks aweful. I would have liked something that throws significantly less dust.
Given the opportunity to do it again, I would probably go with something like porterfields since they are reported to have zero dust (if that is possible). The dust ruins my rims and looks aweful. I would have liked something that throws significantly less dust.
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I did the EBC Redstuff pads and not 100% convinced as the best I could have bought. They squeel like a train stopping for the first few hundred miles and while the brake dust is less, but still significant. They do stop well but then again, so did the OEM pads IMO. I have not tracked to car to make a comparision on that front.
Given the opportunity to do it again, I would probably go with something like porterfields since they are reported to have zero dust (if that is possible). The dust ruins my rims and looks aweful. I would have liked something that throws significantly less dust.
Given the opportunity to do it again, I would probably go with something like porterfields since they are reported to have zero dust (if that is possible). The dust ruins my rims and looks aweful. I would have liked something that throws significantly less dust.
As far as the dusting, they were NOTICABLY less than stock, and this showed up to a MUCH greater extend after a track day, aka roadrace. You must have a VERY low threshold for dust my friend. Which I can understand on a good set of rims
See yeah
PS: I have had six cars now on EBC redstuff without ANY squealing.
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But can you say that Akebono's can handle a road course, I can for the EBC's
I realalize that not many here really care about that, but for me I always try to sneak out whenever posiable.
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Dropped shipped to my house in less than a week, and good prcing, But FIRST try the vendors here as there are some GREAT guys already on board
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