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Old 04-11-2009, 05:06 PM
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sl65 brabus vs zr1

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Is that the ZR1 pulling buslengths on the Merc?
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Is this really a Brabus, as far as I know Brabus build their SV12S based on the SL600, not the SL65-AMG, from Brabus homepage:
“The Brabus engineers and designers have left no stone unturned to make the Mercedes SL-Class even sportier and more exclusive. Equipped with the Brabus SV12 S Biturbo twelve-cylinder twin-turbo engine that delivers 730 hp (537 kW) the SL 600 turns into the world's most powerful roadster. 0 - 100 km/h in 4.0 seconds and 200 km/h after just 10.9 seconds speak to its prowess as does its top speed electronically limited to 350 km/h.”
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Not a chance in hell that Brabus was giving its all.
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Not a chance in hell that Brabus was giving its all.
How do you see the outcome?
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Not a chance in hell that Brabus was giving its all.

Are they even sure it's a Brabus Modded car? I expected a much much closer run.
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The dude who posted the video claims that the Brabus SL65 has 564rwhp. An SL65 with just an ECU tune should hit that #. They also claim an air intake and "catback" exhaust. There is no way it was the full blown Brabus SV12 with modified turbos and 6.3L.

I doubt that a stock ZR1 would put that kind of distance on a 564rwhp SL65 in such a short time frame. A 564rwhp SL65 is still capable of trapping around 125mph in the 1/4 mile. A stock ZR1 should push close to 130mph (the 130mph magazine trap speed is gps based while track trap speeds are an average over the last 66ft). That 5 mph difference is significant... but that video is showing a HUGE difference in speed in a much shorter run.

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Originally Posted by TMC M5
The dude who posted the video claims that the Brabus SL65 has 564rwhp. An SL65 with just an ECU tune should hit that #. They also claim an air intake and "catback" exhaust. There is no way it was the full blown Brabus SV12 with modified turbos and 6.3L.

I doubt that a stock ZR1 would put that kind of distance on a 564rwhp SL65 in such a short time frame. A 564rwhp SL65 is still capable of trapping around 125mph in the 1/4 mile. A stock ZR1 should push close to 130mph (the 130mph magazine trap speed is gps based while track trap speeds are an average over the last 66ft). That 5 mph difference is significant... but that video is showing a HUGE difference in speed in a much shorter run.

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Excellent points, it's a staged vid & I totally love/respect the latest ZR1 but that kinda beating in such short distance is Red Herring
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Excellent points, it's a staged vid & I totally love/respect the latest ZR1 but that kinda beating in such short distance is Red Herring
I absolutely agree with you guys. Just like playing the devils advocate sometimes

Of course I still think the ZR1 would take it.

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Originally Posted by RNSL65
Is this really a Brabus, as far as I know Brabus build their SV12S based on the SL600, not the SL65-AMG, from Brabus homepage:
“The Brabus engineers and designers have left no stone unturned to make the Mercedes SL-Class even sportier and more exclusive. Equipped with the Brabus SV12 S Biturbo twelve-cylinder twin-turbo engine that delivers 730 hp (537 kW) the SL 600 turns into the world's most powerful roadster. 0 - 100 km/h in 4.0 seconds and 200 km/h after just 10.9 seconds speak to its prowess as does its top speed electronically limited to 350 km/h.”
Brabus Also offer a T65S kit for 65 Engines. 720hp.

Search for User DBasons55 he installed it on his CL65
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Brabus Also offer a T65S kit for 65 Engines. 720hp.

Search for User DBasons55 he installed it on his CL65
Correct..... Brabus does offer tuning only packages similar to RennTech and Kleemann's ECU/TCU tuning. There is a person in the C63 section from Dubai who has a CL65 Brabus and C63 Bullit, which he raced and the Bullit (fully built Brabus engine) pulled on the modded AMG engine in the 65.
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Correct..... Brabus does offer tuning only packages similar to RennTech and Kleemann's ECU/TCU tuning. There is a person in the C63 section from Dubai who has a CL65 Brabus and C63 Bullit, which he raced and the Bullit (fully built Brabus engine) pulled on the modded AMG engine in the 65.
Well the Bullit is in a sence at same power level in a lighter car
also its one of their top performers so...
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Originally Posted by TMC M5
The dude who posted the video claims that the Brabus SL65 has 564rwhp. An SL65 with just an ECU tune should hit that #. They also claim an air intake and "catback" exhaust. There is no way it was the full blown Brabus SV12 with modified turbos and 6.3L.

I doubt that a stock ZR1 would put that kind of distance on a 564rwhp SL65 in such a short time frame. A 564rwhp SL65 is still capable of trapping around 125mph in the 1/4 mile. A stock ZR1 should push close to 130mph (the 130mph magazine trap speed is gps based while track trap speeds are an average over the last 66ft). That 5 mph difference is significant... but that video is showing a HUGE difference in speed in a much shorter run.

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Don't forget about Power to Weight Ratio! A ZR1 should pull it, maybe it would be a different race if it was the 800Tq SL by Brabus that Top Gear had.

The ZR1 driver was shifting weird, he shifts fast but it sounded like a horrible power shift. He was engaging to much clutch....or the camera mic was crappy!
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Originally Posted by bobgodd
I absolutely agree with you guys. Just like playing the devils advocate sometimes

Of course I still think the ZR1 would take it.
Totally agree.... ZR1 will beat it, tho Brabus SL65 wouldn't be so violently left in the dust...
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Don't forget about Power to Weight Ratio! A ZR1 should pull it, maybe it would be a different race if it was the 800Tq SL by Brabus that Top Gear had.

The ZR1 driver was shifting weird, he shifts fast but it sounded like a horrible power shift. He was engaging to much clutch....or the camera mic was crappy!
I never said that a ZR1 shouldn't pull on that SL65. But a 564rwhp modded 65 usually translates to about 700rwtq or 800+lbs-ft of torque at the crank, which is enough torque to stay with a stock ZR1 (assuming the SL65 is in the proper gear) for at least a short period of time. There is no doubt that a stock ZR1 would walk it...but it would not be the result "captured" on video.

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I watched the video and then a couple others similar popped up, well they had ZR1 in the title.
Texas mile video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXZ0PooZiOU&NR=1

Race track video that lasts over four minutes and every time I was about to shut it off I just couldn't. Kind of like a real good song you're listening to, you need to go but you don't.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTmV0LrV16Y&NR=1
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Originally Posted by bobgodd
How do you see the outcome?
Something a hell of a lot different. Brabus cars are no joke, especially the SV12. No stock ZR1 should ever give that SL that much of a lashing
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Well the Bullit is in a sence at same power level in a lighter car
also its one of their top performers so...
True..... and not only was the Bullit lighter, it had more horsepower as well. Brabus engines are no joke

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