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Drag Race: SLR vs LP560 vs F430 vs R8 vs Maserati

Old Apr 14, 2009 | 02:00 PM
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Drag Race: SLR vs LP560 vs F430 vs R8 vs Maserati

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I think the Airbase's track surface wasn't optimal for launching. Are you guys suprised who won?

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Old Apr 14, 2009 | 02:05 PM
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Wow! The Maserati was just left there...
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Old Apr 14, 2009 | 02:07 PM
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Yes lolz...I love SLR
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Old Apr 14, 2009 | 02:16 PM
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Old Apr 14, 2009 | 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by TMC M5
http://www.motortrend.com/features/p...slr/index.html

I think the Airbase's track surface wasn't optimal for launching. Are you guys suprised who won?

Tom
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Old Apr 14, 2009 | 03:53 PM
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Since we are using a magazine's test, Ill ask this...WTF happened to the LP560-4?? I have read several other mag tests showing this car to trap well into the mid to high 120's....
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Old Apr 14, 2009 | 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Vic55
Since we are using a magazine's test, Ill ask this...WTF happened to the LP560-4?? I have read several other mag tests showing this car to trap well into the mid to high 120's....
Not sure... but maybe the fact that these cars are fleet vehicles for the World Car Fans thing, maybe it has been abused a little bit...

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Old Apr 14, 2009 | 04:03 PM
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Not sure... but maybe the fact that these cars are fleet vehicles for the World Car Fans thing, maybe it has been abused a little bit...

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Then I guess the SLR can take the abuse a bit more considering it had 42K miles vs. the Lambo's 5K miles on the odometer. The SLR is a monster!
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Old Apr 14, 2009 | 04:14 PM
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Thanks for the article!

I don't necessarily believe a 27 second 0-150 time for the Ferrari as the old M5 did it in 29.4 seconds and if I remember correctly, the '03 E55 did it in 24.5.
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Old Apr 14, 2009 | 04:29 PM
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I'm sorry but that race was a joke... The F430 is an amazing car but it's out of it's league compared to an SLR or an LP560. The R8 is a huge disappointment in all areas except looks, and they shouldn't have even included the Maserati to be honest.

With the SLR being the king dingaling of MBZ, they should have had at least a 599GTB, or the LP640 there.
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Old Apr 14, 2009 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by bobgodd
I'm sorry but that race was a joke... The F430 is an amazing car but it's out of it's league compared to an SLR or an LP560. The R8 is a huge disappointment in all areas except looks, and they shouldn't have even included the Maserati to be honest.

With the SLR being the king dingaling of MBZ, they should have had at least a 599GTB, or the LP640 there.
Well if you mean joke by that the SLR is too much of a monster for them then yes

also to note i saw a funny car mag drag race with a new body S65 vs F430 that was funny to

You could also place an E55/E63, M5 there and they would still beat the R8 and mas car. those are saloons vs sport cars soo

Audi needs to get the RS6 engine in the R8 do not know what they are playing at with that car....it could be a reall contender if it had that engine

but then you could say the same to an E with the SLR engine / or 65 Engine

Hell the SLK with the SLR engine would also be too funny!

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Old Apr 14, 2009 | 05:46 PM
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Then I guess the SLR can take the abuse a bit more considering it had 42K miles vs. the Lambo's 5K miles on the odometer. The SLR is a monster!
Most cars I have experienced with tend to get faster as they put more miles on the clock. So I can see the SLR loving this.

Almost all the magazines long term tests show their cars are quicker in the 0-60 and other speed timed tests.

Now, I dont believe mags 100% if even 60% of the time but since these long term reviews involve the same car; those tests are more relative and factual.

Even if the SLR is faster is this test, I would personally take the Lambo LP560-4 over it all day long...
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Old Apr 14, 2009 | 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Zod
Well if you mean joke by that the SLR is too much of a monster for them then yes
Yes, that's exactly what I mean. This race was designed for the SLR to win and for no other purpose. If they wanted a real competitive race they would have chosen better cars to run against.
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Old Apr 14, 2009 | 05:59 PM
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Then I guess the SLR can take the abuse a bit more considering it had 42K miles vs. the Lambo's 5K miles on the odometer. The SLR is a monster!
Watching the video and seeing the SLR it made me think of a quote from Monty Python and the Holy Grail: "That Rabbit's Dynamite!!!"

I am not sure what the weather is like on that particular day but all the #'s seem a bit "soft".

I have a vbox that I have been data logging with. The last time at the 1/4 mile track Jay and I both gauged that there is enough room at MIR to get both our cars up to 150mph and safely brake (there is over 3,022 ft of shut-down area past the 1/4 mile mark). He shut down at 145+mph on drag radials with plenty of room left. I did two runs with my stock street tires and hit 142 mph on the second run before safely shutting down (I kind of forgot to check on the first run). Next time out I will hit 150+ to get an "official" 150 time. With drag radials my car hit 140 in 14.28s and 14.89s to 140mph on stock tires (with a 1 foot roll-out) on the 4th and final run of the day.

Comparing my times to that SLR, I will paraphrase from Denzel in Training Day...'SLR (King Kong) ain't got ***** on me!'

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Old Apr 14, 2009 | 06:02 PM
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Most cars I have experienced with tend to get faster as they put more miles on the clock. So I can see the SLR loving this.

Almost all the magazines long term tests show their cars are quicker in the 0-60 and other speed timed tests.

Now, I dont believe mags 100% if even 60% of the time but since these long term reviews involve the same car; those tests are more relative and factual.

Even if the SLR is faster is this test, I would personally take the Lambo LP560-4 over it all day long...
I agree...the LP560 is pure sex...I have just never warmed up to the SLR with regards to how it looks even though I respect the power of the engine.
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"Even though the SLR won hands down and a Bimmer wasn't even entered, we prefer the BMW...."

No wait, that's Car & Driver
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Old Apr 14, 2009 | 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by TMC M5
http://www.motortrend.com/features/p...slr/index.html

I think the Airbase's track surface wasn't optimal for launching. Are you guys suprised who won?

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Excellent find Tom! the Gallardo & F430 both got the jump @ launch but still got reeled in & passed by 1/4 pretty badlyImagine what the SLR 722 would've done w/an = launch? or if they extended this current 5 way to the 1 mile mark? just UGLY!!! MB FTW

Both R8/Maserati enter the race fresh from Barbershop, only to finish w/5 O' Clock shadow on R8 & Goatee on Maserati
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Originally Posted by Jakpro1
"Even though the SLR won hands down and a Bimmer wasn't even entered, we prefer the BMW...."

No wait, that's Car & Driver
LoL soo true makes me wanna cancel my Subscription to C&D (get this they tested/compared the MB S550 N/A V8 to BMW 750Li TT V8 & give obvious "W" to BMW, funny part they give the Exterior Styling "W" to the BMWPlease...
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Originally Posted by Jakpro1
"Even though the SLR won hands down and a Bimmer wasn't even entered, we prefer the BMW...."

No wait, that's Car & Driver
Damnt Jim, I was having a bad day and enjoying it and you had to make me laugh...
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I think if they would have thrown the 599 in it would have been a more interesting race. Or even a 636hp novitec SC F430 so it would have been two SC v8's. That would be neat to watch.
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599 doesn´t matter http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GSXZqXU43k
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ya but thats from a rolling start might be different from a stand still?
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My point was that the 599 is much closer in performance than the 430... It's like setting up a drag race between a Charger SRT8 and a Mustang V6, no sh*t the Charger is gonna win.
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that SLR is sick. I was blown away on Easter as I was going to grab something out the E while at the family gathering and what do i hear then see to my surprise coming down the street, but a beautiful silver SLR - i wonder what the guy thought as he saw me stare and drool!!!!!!! LOL
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Originally Posted by TMC M5
Watching the video and seeing the SLR it made me think of a quote from Monty Python and the Holy Grail: "That Rabbit's Dynamite!!!"

I am not sure what the weather is like on that particular day but all the #'s seem a bit "soft".

I have a vbox that I have been data logging with. The last time at the 1/4 mile track Jay and I both gauged that there is enough room at MIR to get both our cars up to 150mph and safely brake (there is over 3,022 ft of shut-down area past the 1/4 mile mark). He shut down at 145+mph on drag radials with plenty of room left. I did two runs with my stock street tires and hit 142 mph on the second run before safely shutting down (I kind of forgot to check on the first run). Next time out I will hit 150+ to get an "official" 150 time. With drag radials my car hit 140 in 14.28s and 14.89s to 140mph on stock tires (with a 1 foot roll-out) on the 4th and final run of the day.

Comparing my times to that SLR, I will paraphrase from Denzel in Training Day...'SLR (King Kong) ain't got ***** on me!'

Tom
Tom you are comparing your drag strip to that normal road they used for the test...much different . I would take their results as more real world then any track that's prepped and has best elevation you can find, as it will be somewhat repeatable on the roads…yours won’t be

As for which I would take...SLR hands down, the lambo is cool, but come on have you seen a black or blue SLR?

Red interior?...the sound?

The two hot circular bubbles it makes from the side exhausts if you look at it when it’s coming at you straight?

Have you seen the matt black one on 6 speed?
Let’s not forget it’s a Super car…not a sports car. Rivals are Enzo/ Carrera GT… the merci at the time was no match

And oh…I have seen around 3-4 SLR 722’s here and an SLR GT

Such evil monsterous venom are in those cars

Just think what a modded SLR would do
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