Long tube headers...
05-26-2009, 04:19 PM
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Mo, whats up brotha? Yeah about the headers, long story short, I paid Vadim to build me a set of "Long Tube" headers, but at the end of the day I ended up with "mid tube" looking headers. Vadim did tell me he had to make them a little shorter but I had no idea how much until it was completed and picked up my car from his shop some 2+ months later.
Vadim pretty much told me the same thing that he has told to Havoc and what Havoc is now posting. Are my headers true "Long Tube" headers? No, but since Vadim always referred to my headers as LT's, I ended up doing the same.
yes from what i recall it has them, but they are custom. I also recall reading that the car had weight saving, driver seats taken out etc.
I feel if you do such things you have to state them, other wise people think you are just running it with the mods you list and that it...
I feel if you do such things you have to state them, other wise people think you are just running it with the mods you list and that it...
Sorry, didnt mean to hurt your feelings...
Below is the picture of URnext’s headers and exhaust. As you can see, they are not true long tube headers, but rather mid sized headers. Vadim explained that this is the longest he can make them for the SL without having clearance issues. The added benefit of their mid size is that they will produce more high end torque where we need it and less low end torque which we already have plenty of. 
You are correct. In the picture below you can see how there is no room for the collector and if you manage to fit one in there you will have clearance issues. The chassis and floorboard of the SL is very different than that of the E55 which can accommodate some true long tube headers.
It depends what you call Long Tube??
I haven't found an SL with "True" long tube headers, but if one of you guys do know of one then please pm me. Thanks!!
You are correct. In the picture below you can see how there is no room for the collector and if you manage to fit one in there you will have clearance issues. The chassis and floorboard of the SL is very different than that of the E55 which can accommodate some true long tube headers.
It depends what you call Long Tube??
I haven't found an SL with "True" long tube headers, but if one of you guys do know of one then please pm me. Thanks!!
Thanks Havoc for posting the pics for me, it saved me a lot of time since I have been really busy with work to take the time to find them and post them in this thread like I said was going to do.
Next time if I need some photos posted, I'll be sure to pm you so I can have you post them for me.
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Sal, I made them as long as possible. Two fronts on each side are the same as E55, the two backs are only several inches shorter. If you make them the same - collectors are too low and car scrapes on every pothole. The other option was to dent the floor, but I do not think that is feasible.
In the end the power difference is very small.
Sal, let me know how you are doing on the cams. I still owe you a tune.
In the end the power difference is very small.
Sal, let me know how you are doing on the cams. I still owe you a tune.
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05-26-2009, 05:52 PM
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Havoc,
Chris from Floored Fab is looking for a SL to build a set of headers. He would probably need the car for a month or so to fabricate. There are many people here who would love to have the first set but not at the cost of giving their car up for that period of time. Would you be interested? It would be fully customized and if SL's can have a true LT I'm sure Chris could make it happen. PM me if interested and I could pass on his contact info.
Chris from Floored Fab is looking for a SL to build a set of headers. He would probably need the car for a month or so to fabricate. There are many people here who would love to have the first set but not at the cost of giving their car up for that period of time. Would you be interested? It would be fully customized and if SL's can have a true LT I'm sure Chris could make it happen. PM me if interested and I could pass on his contact info.
05-27-2009, 02:13 AM
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Hovoc...who made your setup, was it Vadim as well? So I am assuming you and Sal (URnext) have the same exact setup, which is a midsize header instead of a longtube? If that's not correct can you post a pic of yours or pm me so I can see?
I was under the impression that LT's could be run on the SL55, Chris seems to believe they can. At one point VRP had "LT" headers for the SL, were these really midsizes as well? Who fabricated VRP's headers/exhasut setups...did they source them from somewhere or did they actually measure, cut, design and weld everything in house at their shop (I am assuming at Vadim's shop)?
thanks for the input bro
I'm trying to learn more so I can sort this mod out and do it right the first time around....
I was under the impression that LT's could be run on the SL55, Chris seems to believe they can. At one point VRP had "LT" headers for the SL, were these really midsizes as well? Who fabricated VRP's headers/exhasut setups...did they source them from somewhere or did they actually measure, cut, design and weld everything in house at their shop (I am assuming at Vadim's shop)?
thanks for the input bro
I'm trying to learn more so I can sort this mod out and do it right the first time around....
All headers I’ve seen built for the SL were some sort of a mid sized header. Because there is such of a small area and tight bend where the collector would be, the collector would have to be built very small and probably so restrictive that the long tubes would not be as beneficial compared to the mid sized headers with bigger collectors.
Look, I’m trying to build the ultimate 55K for my SL and Vadim knows I’m willing to go all out and be a guinea pig in creating my parts. I trust Vadim’s judgment and when he said that this is the best performance wise that he can build without modifying the body, which I don’t want to do, then I left it at that. I saw the small area we have underneath our SL’s and I agree with him.
If I were you I would have Vadim build your headers since he has already explored that avenue.
Good luck with whomever you choose and keep us posted!
05-27-2009, 02:26 PM
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Yes, Vadim will be building my headers and exhaust. He has not built them yet because we are waiting for my engine to arrive from Canada first. URnext and I will have the same headers, but I’m not going with an H or X-pipe. I plan on using straight pipes that do not connect to give me that old hot rod sound.
All headers I’ve seen built for the SL were some sort of a mid sized header. Because there is such of a small area and tight bend where the collector would be, the collector would have to be built very small and probably so restrictive that the long tubes would not be as beneficial compared to the mid sized headers with bigger collectors.
Look, I’m trying to build the ultimate 55K for my SL and Vadim knows I’m willing to go all out and be a guinea pig in creating my parts. I trust Vadim’s judgment and when he said that this is the best performance wise that he can build without modifying the body, which I don’t want to do, then I left it at that. I saw the small area we have underneath our SL’s and I agree with him.
If I were you I would have Vadim build your headers since he has already explored that avenue.
Good luck with whomever you choose and keep us posted!
All headers I’ve seen built for the SL were some sort of a mid sized header. Because there is such of a small area and tight bend where the collector would be, the collector would have to be built very small and probably so restrictive that the long tubes would not be as beneficial compared to the mid sized headers with bigger collectors.
Look, I’m trying to build the ultimate 55K for my SL and Vadim knows I’m willing to go all out and be a guinea pig in creating my parts. I trust Vadim’s judgment and when he said that this is the best performance wise that he can build without modifying the body, which I don’t want to do, then I left it at that. I saw the small area we have underneath our SL’s and I agree with him.
If I were you I would have Vadim build your headers since he has already explored that avenue.
Good luck with whomever you choose and keep us posted!
05-27-2009, 03:29 PM
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Sounds good...definately keep me posted also; I'm interested to see what Vadim does for you. I'd like to go custom headers (best ones possible for SL55, be it LT or close to it) followed by x-pipe, single pair of HF cats, and upgrade the rear mufflers to a HF version, deleting the resonators along the way; I'm planning on 3" tubing for the exhaust, is that what you are doing also?
FEDOR DEZYN headers with 3" straight pipes, no cats, no x-pipe, and no resonators, exiting out of gutted stock AMG mufflers!
Now that should be loud enough!
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Here are some pics of what My fabricator does. He is the former head fabricator for Billy Boat exhaust, And even makes headers for IRL racing teams.
He is currently designing a full on exhaust system long tubes and all for the C55. I can makes other models too if you want.
He is currently designing a full on exhaust system long tubes and all for the C55. I can makes other models too if you want.
05-28-2009, 12:04 AM
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05-28-2009, 12:12 AM
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Me too...hopefully I get my tune worked out by then. I'm hoping to see better numbers this year but you never know.
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Here are some pics of what My fabricator does. He is the former head fabricator for Billy Boat exhaust, And even makes headers for IRL racing teams.
He is currently designing a full on exhaust system long tubes and all for the C55. I can makes other models too if you want.
He is currently designing a full on exhaust system long tubes and all for the C55. I can makes other models too if you want.
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Yo Alan...you got your headers and tune last week, right? Am I missing a thread on this? I only ask as I just dropped my car off with Chris and we were "chatting"...
09-01-2009, 11:50 AM
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Thinking about getting the LT's from Chris? Chris is a great guys with a ton of knowledge and I would highly recommend him to anyone. His headers make a ton of torque with a nice power band up top.
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Hey Karl, headers and tune was done last week and the results were great but there's still some tuning left to be done. I still had some great gains down low and up top. I'm having a idle issue that's throwing P0300 Random cylinder misfire. I'm taking it in today to have it scanned and adding new plugs (NGKLFR7AIX one step colder) and new Bosch plug wires. I don't post my dyno numbers anymore but the results were definitely great with more left in her. The heat at the shop was just too much to get a dialed in tune...IMO.
Thinking about getting the LT's from Chris? Chris is a great guys with a ton of knowledge and I would highly recommend him to anyone. His headers make a ton of torque with a nice power band up top.
Thinking about getting the LT's from Chris? Chris is a great guys with a ton of knowledge and I would highly recommend him to anyone. His headers make a ton of torque with a nice power band up top.
Seriously though, I'll probably pull the trigger after the fiscal year is over for us (after 9/30) and I'll go with Chris. He has been a pleasure to deal with and is upfront and honest (even to the point of pointing me in the direction of the stealer thinking an issue I was having was covered under warranty, which it was, instead of him doing the work at a cost to me).
09-01-2009, 12:24 PM
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Every time I stop by Chris's place I think about the long tubes headers!
Seriously though, I'll probably pull the trigger after the fiscal year is over for us (after 9/30) and I'll go with Chris. He has been a pleasure to deal with and is upfront and honest (even to the point of pointing me in the direction of the stealer thinking an issue I was having was covered under warranty, which it was, instead of him doing the work at a cost to me).
Seriously though, I'll probably pull the trigger after the fiscal year is over for us (after 9/30) and I'll go with Chris. He has been a pleasure to deal with and is upfront and honest (even to the point of pointing me in the direction of the stealer thinking an issue I was having was covered under warranty, which it was, instead of him doing the work at a cost to me).
. Just do it Karl.Chirs is a very honest hard working man that puts his customers before himself. This kind of customer service can't be taught, it needs to be within. My biggest concern was cabin noise, and as Chris promised....very quiet. It's so quiet I might even go with straight pipes
. I don't get the obnoxious gurgling noise that happens when slowing down from a hard acceleration.
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. Just do it Karl.Chirs is a very honest hard working man that puts his customers before himself. This kind of customer service can't be taught, it needs to be within. My biggest concern was cabin noise, and as Chris promised....very quiet. It's so quiet I might even go with straight pipes
. I don't get the obnoxious gurgling noise that happens when slowing down from a hard acceleration.
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Hey Karl, headers and tune was done last week and the results were great but there's still some tuning left to be done. I still had some great gains down low and up top. I'm having a idle issue that's throwing P0300 Random cylinder misfire. I'm taking it in today to have it scanned and adding new plugs (NGKLFR7AIX one step colder) and new Bosch plug wires. I don't post my dyno numbers anymore but the results were definitely great with more left in her. The heat at the shop was just too much to get a dialed in tune...IMO.
Thinking about getting the LT's from Chris? Chris is a great guys with a ton of knowledge and I would highly recommend him to anyone. His headers make a ton of torque with a nice power band up top.
Thinking about getting the LT's from Chris? Chris is a great guys with a ton of knowledge and I would highly recommend him to anyone. His headers make a ton of torque with a nice power band up top.
... PM me Chris' number I'd like to call him about doing LT headers for my SL55 maybe with a midpipe section as well with a pair of HF 200cel cats....Glad everything is coming together for you...we'll chat soon...
02-09-2010, 09:12 PM
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Hey guys,
Lately I've been getting a ton of inquires about Floored Fab headers and I thought I would revive this thread. I know Chris has been a very busy man but I'm sure if enough members got together he might be able help out. Plain and simple, my headers perform awesome and my car is performing better than I would have ever thought. A big thanks to Chris!!!!
Lately I've been getting a ton of inquires about Floored Fab headers and I thought I would revive this thread. I know Chris has been a very busy man but I'm sure if enough members got together he might be able help out. Plain and simple, my headers perform awesome and my car is performing better than I would have ever thought. A big thanks to Chris
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02-09-2010, 09:59 PM
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chris at floored fab is DEFINITELY the guy to go to if you're in the market for 55k long tube headers. it speaks volumes when he doesn't have to come around and brag about his work yet his custom products can be found on most of the fastest 55's in the world! it's also refreshing to work with someone as honest as he is and in the revalation of the true cause of the problems my car recently went through, he's still never said an unkind word about any other tuner's work.
