Well.....is it over??? Did the Big O kill our hopes of a TT??
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Well.....is it over??? Did the Big O kill our hopes of a TT??
Benz has been SUUUUUPER quiet about it since they hinted about going all TT soon. Is this the reason why?
Just wanted to run it by you guys and see what you thought about the future of a TT AMG with us now basically going back into the smog motor days of the late 70's.
I know we've talked it to death, but always seems to be new info that changes the game one way or the other.
Could you create a higher hp car that gets 40mpg???
Just wanted to run it by you guys and see what you thought about the future of a TT AMG with us now basically going back into the smog motor days of the late 70's.
I know we've talked it to death, but always seems to be new info that changes the game one way or the other.
Could you create a higher hp car that gets 40mpg???
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Sure, might cost $300K after you're done manufacturing the lightweight components and keep all safety equipment off the car to reduce more weight.
I think in the next few decades performance cars will transition to racetracks or closed roads and be just for recreation, the way horses are now.
I think in the next few decades performance cars will transition to racetracks or closed roads and be just for recreation, the way horses are now.
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I think O's plan will result in performance cars that are no longer available in the US, similar in some ways like the Citroen or the way new diesels were banned from California until recently. Maybe we will see a rise in the value of our 55's as his plan moves forward. 
Anyone know what kind of mpg the presidential limo gets?
Anyone know what kind of mpg the presidential limo gets?
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I think O's plan will result in performance cars that are no longer available in the US, similar in some ways like the Citroen or the way new diesels were banned from California until recently. Maybe we will see a rise in the value of our 55's as his plan moves forward.
Anyone know what kind of mpg the presidential limo gets?
Anyone know what kind of mpg the presidential limo gets?
There is now a trend of strong-arming states to accept federal mandates with the threat of withdrawing interstate highway funding. It is completely plausible that they will try to federalize car registration and make it prohibitively expensive to register powerful old cars. Wasnt there a thread recently about having to pay $500-800 to register late in CA?
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I have said it before, it's 1969 all over again........
Jim, keep the beast, and add a 65 to the stable, I fear we are in for a HP dry spell......
Jim, keep the beast, and add a 65 to the stable, I fear we are in for a HP dry spell......
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2 cylinders per turbo? Maybe if they can dynamically re-route exhaust, but then you've got 4 NA low-compression pistons pushing your heavy car.
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+1. They will have high horse power. Just not big motors. Benz is going back to the 5.5 with turbos this time. As far as the c class they getting v6 tt. Boooooooooooo. I want raw power
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A 40mpg requirement DOES NOT mean that cars with less than that rating cannot be sold! In the US we have this thing called a Gas Guzzler Tax. The gas guzzler tax is currently applicable to cars that average less than 22.5mpg (combined city & highway).
How many of our cars average above 22.5mpg? Mine doesn't, so I pay the tax and move on. Under your assessment (that with a 40mpg requirement we will no longer have high HP cars) Mercedes AMG and BMW M cars would not exist under today's standard. I really don't think you have to worry about not being able to get our beloved high-power cars. You will just have to pay a little more to play.
A 40mpg requirement will simply mean that the gas guzzler tax schedule will be adjusted. The shift towards higher efficiency began long ago, not January 20th. If you look back, fuel efficiency has gone up and cars have become faster and more powerful. I believe the trend will continue.
That's my take on it.
How many of our cars average above 22.5mpg? Mine doesn't, so I pay the tax and move on. Under your assessment (that with a 40mpg requirement we will no longer have high HP cars) Mercedes AMG and BMW M cars would not exist under today's standard. I really don't think you have to worry about not being able to get our beloved high-power cars. You will just have to pay a little more to play.
A 40mpg requirement will simply mean that the gas guzzler tax schedule will be adjusted. The shift towards higher efficiency began long ago, not January 20th. If you look back, fuel efficiency has gone up and cars have become faster and more powerful. I believe the trend will continue.
That's my take on it.
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A 40mpg requirement will simply mean that the gas guzzler tax schedule will be adjusted. The shift towards higher efficiency began long ago, not January 20th. If you look back, fuel efficiency has gone up and cars have become faster and more powerful. I believe the trend will continue.
That's my take on it.
That's my take on it.
This doesn't mean the end of ALL performance cars as we know it.
Plus, I do believe there may also be a corporate component to the 40 MPG requirement that takes into account the average of all cars offered by a manufacturer.
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A 40mpg requirement DOES NOT mean that cars with less than that rating cannot be sold! In the US we have this thing called a Gas Guzzler Tax. The gas guzzler tax is currently applicable to cars that average less than 22.5mpg (combined city & highway).
How many of our cars average above 22.5mpg? Mine doesn't, so I pay the tax and move on. Under your assessment (that with a 40mpg requirement we will no longer have high HP cars) Mercedes AMG and BMW M cars would not exist under today's standard. I really don't think you have to worry about not being able to get our beloved high-power cars. You will just have to pay a little more to play.
A 40mpg requirement will simply mean that the gas guzzler tax schedule will be adjusted. The shift towards higher efficiency began long ago, not January 20th. If you look back, fuel efficiency has gone up and cars have become faster and more powerful. I believe the trend will continue.
That's my take on it.
How many of our cars average above 22.5mpg? Mine doesn't, so I pay the tax and move on. Under your assessment (that with a 40mpg requirement we will no longer have high HP cars) Mercedes AMG and BMW M cars would not exist under today's standard. I really don't think you have to worry about not being able to get our beloved high-power cars. You will just have to pay a little more to play.
A 40mpg requirement will simply mean that the gas guzzler tax schedule will be adjusted. The shift towards higher efficiency began long ago, not January 20th. If you look back, fuel efficiency has gone up and cars have become faster and more powerful. I believe the trend will continue.
That's my take on it.
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i hope they don't do the same here in ME ^_^
hmmm
but i heared the new CLS will be 55 TT with 580hp @ stock
hopefully there will be tuners remapping it and getting 100hp extra by that ( like BMW 335 vinshu v3)
hmmm
but i heared the new CLS will be 55 TT with 580hp @ stock
hopefully there will be tuners remapping it and getting 100hp extra by that ( like BMW 335 vinshu v3)
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