**** LONG TUBES UPDATE ****
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We are making C55 long tubes. There is a possibility that the long tubes we come out with for the C55 will fit an SL55. It seems all shorty style headers for the SL55 fit the C55. We are going to test them and see were we stand.
In any event I want to make long tubes for every last one of you AMG guys that want them.
OP We will meet up at some point and do some racing either here in AZ or out in Cali. cruzinquick and I put together an AMG meet at Speedworld last year and there was a good showing. followed by BBQ. I plan on doing it again this year too. It would be great to have you head out and race with us.
In any event I want to make long tubes for every last one of you AMG guys that want them.
OP We will meet up at some point and do some racing either here in AZ or out in Cali. cruzinquick and I put together an AMG meet at Speedworld last year and there was a good showing. followed by BBQ. I plan on doing it again this year too. It would be great to have you head out and race with us.
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However we got our hands on an SL55 for a trial fit once our headers are done. My guess is with some minor modifications on our end SL55 long tubes will available before summer is over. I dont want to hijack the Rick's thread so If you are interested PM me. I will make a post in the SL55 section in the near future about the results we get for SL55 long tubes.
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i don't care about numbers either, but dynapack's are typically the highest reading dyno around...ussually even higher than dynojets and almost always much higher than dd or mustang machines.
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Actually I just had it on a Dyno Pack dyno 2 weeks ago which reads as low or lower than a dyno dynamics at a local tuners dyno shootout and it made 489.4 NA and 621.7 with a 100 shot of gas, as well as torque numbers that are approaching 600 ft lbs...here's a link to vids I posted in the Black Series section. Besides I could care less about dyno numbers, I think my dozen or so 11.0 passes to date speak for themself.
https://mbworld.org/forums/clk63-bla...dyno-pull.html
https://mbworld.org/forums/clk63-bla...dyno-pull.html
From Dyno Dynamics:
The Dyno Dynamics is known throughout the industry as being the "heartbreaker" dyno - because it breaks the heart of every man that thinks he has 500 hp when he really has 350. The Dyno Dynamics reads lower than the Mustang. It reads WAY lower than a Dynojet. It reads WAY lower than a Dynapack (which actually reads too high on tip-in).
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So who has the highest hp 63 in the world? Or at least in our world?
1.Jrcart or rarfinancial
722 at the crank compared to 621 RWHP are the two cars nearly identical?
I know Jim has hit 500 rwhp off the bottle, Rick what was your best crank pull off the juicee juice?
I don't care about the weather, I know we won't breal any records but we all know what our cars do in the heat and it is always fun to run. First day that comes avail we gotta get out and run em, AZ, CA, NV,Utah specifically mentioned for Mr. Pro
Im so excited to not be able to read your rear plate anymore while headed down the track.
Lets get out there and RUN THE DAM CARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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MARCUSFROST; I plan on getting my BS up on the Dyno Dynamics rollers at Fluid MotorUnion in the next week or so, they are about 4 doors down from one of my buildings and 5 mins from my house, so it will be much easier than heading out to CPT in Melrose Park. Besides, I was planning on attending the dyno day you organized at CPT a while back but you guys did it on the one day that I told you from the begining that would not work for me.
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So who has the highest hp 63 in the world? Or at least in our world?
1.Jrcart or rarfinancial
722 at the crank compared to 621 RWHP are the two cars nearly identical?
I know Jim has hit 500 rwhp off the bottle, Rick what was your best crank pull off the juicee juice?
I don't care about the weather, I know we won't breal any records but we all know what our cars do in the heat and it is always fun to run. First day that comes avail we gotta get out and run em, AZ, CA, NV,Utah specifically mentioned for Mr. Pro
Im so excited to not be able to read your rear plate anymore while headed down the track.
Lets get out there and RUN THE DAM CARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
1.Jrcart or rarfinancial
722 at the crank compared to 621 RWHP are the two cars nearly identical?
I know Jim has hit 500 rwhp off the bottle, Rick what was your best crank pull off the juicee juice?
I don't care about the weather, I know we won't breal any records but we all know what our cars do in the heat and it is always fun to run. First day that comes avail we gotta get out and run em, AZ, CA, NV,Utah specifically mentioned for Mr. Pro
Im so excited to not be able to read your rear plate anymore while headed down the track.
Lets get out there and RUN THE DAM CARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I don't really care about dyno figures, like I said my ET's speak for themself, but not quite sure where you are getting your info. My car pulled a 517 on a Dynojet 248 and a 489 on a Dyna Pack on the same afternoon. I had my E46 M3 on several Dyna Packs and it was always about 10% lower than the Dynojet figures.
MARCUSFROST; I plan on getting my BS up on the Dyno Dynamics rollers at Fluid MotorUnion in the next week or so, they are about 4 doors down from one of my buildings and 5 mins from my house, so it will be much easier than heading out to CPT in Melrose Park. Besides, I was planning on attending the dyno day you organized at CPT a while back but you guys did it on the one day that I told you from the begining that would not work for me.
MARCUSFROST; I plan on getting my BS up on the Dyno Dynamics rollers at Fluid MotorUnion in the next week or so, they are about 4 doors down from one of my buildings and 5 mins from my house, so it will be much easier than heading out to CPT in Melrose Park. Besides, I was planning on attending the dyno day you organized at CPT a while back but you guys did it on the one day that I told you from the begining that would not work for me.
What if I was to offer to pay for your dyno at CPT? Hell maybe we can do a shootout... my light bolt-on 55 vs your monster EVOsport car? I know it sounds strange, but for some reason there just aren't a lot of 63 guys who've dyno'd around here and I really want to see how that motor does on their dyno. There was a C63 there last week and unfortunately the heartbreaker took another victim. With all the work your 63 has had done I'd really love to see what it does there. CPT is no more than a few blocks away from GRD, where you used their Dynapack...
I know dyno numbers are kind of worthless, but nonetheless your car would be worth it.
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Jim I'm sorry to tell you but Dynapack does not read as low as Dyno Dynamics. It is lower than Dynojet, but only by a small amount.
From Dyno Dynamics:
I'm guessing you'd do in the low-mid 400s at CPT... right inline with my Stage 1 E55 (off spray of course). I don't see why we need to keep speculating... maybe I'm wrong... maybe you'll make good power... but I've seen a LOT of hearts broken on that dyno... it's legendary for it. What do you have to lose?
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From Dyno Dynamics:
I'm guessing you'd do in the low-mid 400s at CPT... right inline with my Stage 1 E55 (off spray of course). I don't see why we need to keep speculating... maybe I'm wrong... maybe you'll make good power... but I've seen a LOT of hearts broken on that dyno... it's legendary for it. What do you have to lose?
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Jim,
What if I was to offer to pay for your dyno at CPT? Hell maybe we can do a shootout... my light bolt-on 55 vs your monster EVOsport car? I know it sounds strange, but for some reason there just aren't a lot of 63 guys who've dyno'd around here and I really want to see how that motor does on their dyno. There was a C63 there last week and unfortunately the heartbreaker took another victim. With all the work your 63 has had done I'd really love to see what it does there. CPT is no more than a few blocks away from GRD, where you used their Dynapack...
I know dyno numbers are kind of worthless, but nonetheless your car would be worth it.
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What if I was to offer to pay for your dyno at CPT? Hell maybe we can do a shootout... my light bolt-on 55 vs your monster EVOsport car? I know it sounds strange, but for some reason there just aren't a lot of 63 guys who've dyno'd around here and I really want to see how that motor does on their dyno. There was a C63 there last week and unfortunately the heartbreaker took another victim. With all the work your 63 has had done I'd really love to see what it does there. CPT is no more than a few blocks away from GRD, where you used their Dynapack...
I know dyno numbers are kind of worthless, but nonetheless your car would be worth it.
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Jim,
What if I was to offer to pay for your dyno at CPT? Hell maybe we can do a shootout... my light bolt-on 55 vs your monster EVOsport car? I know it sounds strange, but for some reason there just aren't a lot of 63 guys who've dyno'd around here and I really want to see how that motor does on their dyno. There was a C63 there last week and unfortunately the heartbreaker took another victim. With all the work your 63 has had done I'd really love to see what it does there. CPT is no more than a few blocks away from GRD, where you used their Dynapack...
I know dyno numbers are kind of worthless, but nonetheless your car would be worth it.
-m
What if I was to offer to pay for your dyno at CPT? Hell maybe we can do a shootout... my light bolt-on 55 vs your monster EVOsport car? I know it sounds strange, but for some reason there just aren't a lot of 63 guys who've dyno'd around here and I really want to see how that motor does on their dyno. There was a C63 there last week and unfortunately the heartbreaker took another victim. With all the work your 63 has had done I'd really love to see what it does there. CPT is no more than a few blocks away from GRD, where you used their Dynapack...
I know dyno numbers are kind of worthless, but nonetheless your car would be worth it.
-m
You don't have to pay for the dyno time, but thanks for the offer. I'll see what I can do about getting it over there. Like I said, I don't care if it reads 350rwhp, I only use dynos to gauge what type of gains different mods or tunes give my cars. The little slip they hand you at the end of the track is really the only dyno sheet that matters IMO.
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A 100 shot of nitrous made 132.3whp on a NA car? 
I'm going to go out on a limb and say it was more than 100 shot of nitrous or there were other variables changed.
+1. Fear my 432whp of FURY!!!! 
I'm going to go out on a limb and say it was more than 100 shot of nitrous or there were other variables changed.
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Ahmad, we were all wondering the same thing, we even pulled the jets out after the run just to make sure. They were indeed .032 jets installed. NA and nitrous passes were made back to back within about 5 minutes of one another. Nitous pull was first followed by 2 NA pulls, only thing I can think of is heat soke, but even in the worst of conditions I have not seen that significant of a decrease. There were about 250 witneses there that can vouch for the passes, the numbers and the size jets that were installed in the car. Alaksander and a few other AMG owners were there as well.
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Ahmad, we were all wondering the same thing, we even pulled the jets out after the run just to make sure. They were indeed .032 jets installed. NA and nitrous passes were made back to back within about 5 minutes of one another. Nitous pull was first followed by 2 NA pulls, only thing I can think of is heat soke, but even in the worst of conditions I have not seen that significant of a decrease. There were about 250 witneses there that can vouch for the passes, the numbers and the size jets that were installed in the car.
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Wow, thats a nice increase! Back in the day when I was playing with nitrous I saw a 65whp increase with just a 50 shot but that was through the blower. Waiting to get bigger injectors and retune before i make some more passes and then maybe I'll start spraying at the track
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Ahmad, I have not spent much time on here lately have you improved on your 10.7 ( I think that's what it was)? Any new toys on the beast? I have not been on a drag strip since Pheonix over 2 months ago, now the heat and humidity is here so it looks like you are safe for a while
Don't wanna hijack the thread, sorry. Nice gains from the longtubes lol
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You don't have to pay for the dyno time, but thanks for the offer. I'll see what I can do about getting it over there. Like I said, I don't care if it reads 350rwhp, I only use dynos to gauge what type of gains different mods or tunes give my cars. The little slip they hand you at the end of the track is really the only dyno sheet that matters IMO.
You found the time to strap down at GRD, a few blocks away, I'm sure you can find the time to put it on at CPT.
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While we're on the subject, why is it that dyno dynamics read lower than a mustang dyno (or sometimes vise versa), or in more general terms, why are two eddie-current load-based dyno machines reading two different results? Is it just a matter of increasing or decreasing load force?
The C63 made ~350-352rwhp.
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If I multiply my 621.7 times 18% driveline loss I come up with 733.6, I'm not sure if that is the proper way to calculate it but they are definetly close. If his numbers are accurate he should be capable of very low 11 second passes, possibly 11 flat in great conditions. One thing to keep in mind, my 621 was with .032 nitrous jets, I can safely run up to .052 jets which should net me an additional 60-70rwhp. Also that 621 was with airfilters installed, I don't usually run any filters on the dyno or at the strip.
If you assume an exact 18% in driveline losses, 621.7 rwhp /(1-driveline loss) = 621.7/.82 = 758.2 crank hp. To double-check, you can work backwards: 82% of 758.2 = 621.7
722 crank hp should equal 592 rwhp, again assuming an exact 18% driveline loss figure.
