Anyone have pics of mushroom filters?
06-29-2009, 09:01 PM
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What remains to be seen is how restricted E55 oem airboxes are
anybody got pix of stockers w/filters out?
06-29-2009, 09:08 PM
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1) our cars inlets are extremely restricted over E55's, I counted (4) sharp 90 degree bends in our fact oem boxes, 2nd these guys don't know evrything, my own testing has already proved these setups work w/filter butted right up to oem holes, plus relieving 90 degree bends etc...
What remains to be seen is how restricted E55 oem airboxes are anybody got pix of stockers w/filters out?
What remains to be seen is how restricted E55 oem airboxes are
anybody got pix of stockers w/filters out?
06-30-2009, 01:06 AM
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Correct, the intake tract is as straight as an arrow with nothing to dremel. In looking at making a new intake, it does appear as if there is ample room to place conical air filters in front of the radiator like Vadim did in his Fangs design. In order to do this, the horns need to be relocated. Has anyone tried connecting conical filters in front of VRP python tubes? It has been addressed that placing these filters up front interrupts the airflow across the radiator, to what extent this affects engine cooling, it is currently unknown. The challenge in doing so comes with how they are plumbed through the radiator support as it becomes a very tight fit.
06-30-2009, 02:39 AM
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Correct, the intake tract is as straight as an arrow with nothing to dremel. In looking at making a new intake, it does appear as if there is ample room to place conical air filters in front of the radiator like Vadim did in his Fangs design. In order to do this, the horns need to be relocated. Has anyone tried connecting conical filters in front of VRP python tubes? It has been addressed that placing these filters up front interrupts the airflow across the radiator, to what extent this affects engine cooling, it is currently unknown. The challenge in doing so comes with how they are plumbed through the radiator support as it becomes a very tight fit.
06-30-2009, 12:51 PM
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I believe there's a very simple solution to these problems that everyone's overlooking.
I'm going to test a theory when some supplies I need come in, but if I were a betting man, after doing some checks on hot areas under the hood, I'll bet it's possible for an easy 5 -15 degree reduction in intake temps.
Until then ...
On a more complicated note ... with set ups like the "Fangs" or any other pass through the front design, you pretty much kill the ability to run in rain, which for me is not a problem. I have a nice F250 for that. But for those that want to run in foul weather there's only a few solutions. The factory set up offers the best of both worlds with some decent resistance to inhaling too much moisture while offering good performance.
Having said that ... how fun would it be to modify a hood for true cold air intake? The hoods are pretty cheap too!
Modifying one to pull lots of heat out and feed the intake cool air would not be very difficult. For you racers ... IMO this is the only way to go.
I'm going to test a theory when some supplies I need come in, but if I were a betting man, after doing some checks on hot areas under the hood, I'll bet it's possible for an easy 5 -15 degree reduction in intake temps.
Until then ...
On a more complicated note ... with set ups like the "Fangs" or any other pass through the front design, you pretty much kill the ability to run in rain, which for me is not a problem. I have a nice F250 for that. But for those that want to run in foul weather there's only a few solutions. The factory set up offers the best of both worlds with some decent resistance to inhaling too much moisture while offering good performance.
Having said that ... how fun would it be to modify a hood for true cold air intake? The hoods are pretty cheap too!
Modifying one to pull lots of heat out and feed the intake cool air would not be very difficult. For you racers ... IMO this is the only way to go.
06-30-2009, 01:15 PM
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i see bmw's with hood vents all over the damned place but nobody can do something for an amg??? WTF!!!
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for years i've been begging for someone with those abilities to modify the hood and create a nice cowl intake that we could then mate to a shroud that isolates that cowl intake and the tb. we end up with a nice high pressure area and a cold air intake while at the same time freeing up a lot of space to then look at fabricating a nice slr cooler system.
i see bmw's with hood vents all over the damned place but nobody can do something for an amg??? WTF!!!
i see bmw's with hood vents all over the damned place but nobody can do something for an amg??? WTF!!!
I've never seen such restricted engines, period.
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I believe there's a very simple solution to these problems that everyone's overlooking.
I'm going to test a theory when some supplies I need come in, but if I were a betting man, after doing some checks on hot areas under the hood, I'll bet it's possible for an easy 5 -15 degree reduction in intake temps.
Until then ...
On a more complicated note ... with set ups like the "Fangs" or any other pass through the front design, you pretty much kill the ability to run in rain, which for me is not a problem. I have a nice F250 for that. But for those that want to run in foul weather there's only a few solutions. The factory set up offers the best of both worlds with some decent resistance to inhaling too much moisture while offering good performance.
Having said that ... how fun would it be to modify a hood for true cold air intake? The hoods are pretty cheap too! Modifying one to pull lots of heat out and feed the intake cool air would not be very difficult. For you racers ... IMO this is the only way to go.
I'm going to test a theory when some supplies I need come in, but if I were a betting man, after doing some checks on hot areas under the hood, I'll bet it's possible for an easy 5 -15 degree reduction in intake temps.
Until then ...
On a more complicated note ... with set ups like the "Fangs" or any other pass through the front design, you pretty much kill the ability to run in rain, which for me is not a problem. I have a nice F250 for that. But for those that want to run in foul weather there's only a few solutions. The factory set up offers the best of both worlds with some decent resistance to inhaling too much moisture while offering good performance.
Having said that ... how fun would it be to modify a hood for true cold air intake? The hoods are pretty cheap too!
Modifying one to pull lots of heat out and feed the intake cool air would not be very difficult. For you racers ... IMO this is the only way to go.
06-30-2009, 01:27 PM
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Quite the opposite, my engine bay is practically sealed to hell. The vents at the top of my hood are but for aesthetics. I simply believe AMG-- or Mercedes in general-- did certain stuff on purpose, to rob cars of their potential.
I've never seen such restricted engines, period.
I've never seen such restricted engines, period.
06-30-2009, 01:42 PM
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for years i've been begging for someone with those abilities to modify the hood and create a nice cowl intake that we could then mate to a shroud that isolates that cowl intake and the tb. we end up with a nice high pressure area and a cold air intake while at the same time freeing up a lot of space to then look at fabricating a nice slr cooler system.
i see bmw's with hood vents all over the damned place but nobody can do something for an amg??? WTF!!!
i see bmw's with hood vents all over the damned place but nobody can do something for an amg??? WTF!!!
I have a CLS ... have already gotten a quote on a new hood for it to play with.
Fabbing up some true cold air intake and heat control would be pretty easy. It sure won't be rain proof though.
06-30-2009, 02:02 PM
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I believe there's a very simple solution to these problems that everyone's overlooking.
I'm going to test a theory when some supplies I need come in, but if I were a betting man, after doing some checks on hot areas under the hood, I'll bet it's possible for an easy 5 -15 degree reduction in intake temps.
Until then ...
On a more complicated note ... with set ups like the "Fangs" or any other pass through the front design, you pretty much kill the ability to run in rain, which for me is not a problem. I have a nice F250 for that. But for those that want to run in foul weather there's only a few solutions. The factory set up offers the best of both worlds with some decent resistance to inhaling too much moisture while offering good performance.
Having said that ... how fun would it be to modify a hood for true cold air intake? The hoods are pretty cheap too! Modifying one to pull lots of heat out and feed the intake cool air would not be very difficult. For you racers ... IMO this is the only way to go.
I'm going to test a theory when some supplies I need come in, but if I were a betting man, after doing some checks on hot areas under the hood, I'll bet it's possible for an easy 5 -15 degree reduction in intake temps.
Until then ...
On a more complicated note ... with set ups like the "Fangs" or any other pass through the front design, you pretty much kill the ability to run in rain, which for me is not a problem. I have a nice F250 for that. But for those that want to run in foul weather there's only a few solutions. The factory set up offers the best of both worlds with some decent resistance to inhaling too much moisture while offering good performance.
Having said that ... how fun would it be to modify a hood for true cold air intake? The hoods are pretty cheap too!
Modifying one to pull lots of heat out and feed the intake cool air would not be very difficult. For you racers ... IMO this is the only way to go.
06-30-2009, 04:15 PM
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I'm not so sure about that. Put it this way ... you wouldn't catch me driving in a pouring rain with that system. Throw some gortex socks over those filters and then OK.
06-30-2009, 04:22 PM
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as soon as dealership is done w/warranty work I'll be fitting custom piece from another fast auto talked about frequently in kill stories...Very nice flat hood opening, not a vent def NOT rice style, will let in ton of cold air to both intakes & further cool the engine etc...Then off to bodyshop to bondo-butter paint to appear as if it was born their.
06-30-2009, 04:57 PM
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We got some engineers working hard over here
We need people to keep pushing the envelope. I know these motors have more in them then what we have seen.
We need people to keep pushing the envelope. I know these motors have more in them then what we have seen.
06-30-2009, 05:05 PM
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Ricker- what you're doing now will be great, if you do it- I will follow w/a custom hood/intake system for the e55.
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What? are you going to patent the idea lol... I already started hood cutting as soon as dealership is done w/warranty work I'll be fitting custom piece from another fast auto talked about frequently in kill stories...
Very nice flat hood opening, not a vent def NOT rice style, will let in ton of cold air to both intakes & further cool the engine etc...Then off to bodyshop to bondo-butter paint to appear as if it was born their.
as soon as dealership is done w/warranty work I'll be fitting custom piece from another fast auto talked about frequently in kill stories...Very nice flat hood opening, not a vent def NOT rice style, will let in ton of cold air to both intakes & further cool the engine etc...Then off to bodyshop to bondo-butter paint to appear as if it was born their.
