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Supercharger er...Kompressor Idler pulley bearing...part # a 113 202 03 19

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Old Aug 31, 2009 | 10:11 PM
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Supercharger er...Kompressor Idler pulley bearing...part # a 113 202 03 19

List is $400, I can get it from a dealer for $250...anyone think there is a chance of replacing just the bearing on the big pulley, or am I being a cheap @$$?

Noticed a chirp while cruising off throttle around 2k rpm, pulled the thick belt off and it went away...

Car just hit 105k miles, and fortunately I have a company car so the miles will be strictly pleasure/track miles from here forward...

Also- any harm driving these cars without a belt on the kompressor? I have a meeting tomorrow morning and would MUCH rather take the car than the company car...so much more comfy. Thanks in advance

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Old Aug 31, 2009 | 10:44 PM
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i would not drive it without the S/C belt
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Old Aug 31, 2009 | 10:47 PM
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Don't drive it with the belt off. I'm confused on the diagnosis, though...
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Old Sep 1, 2009 | 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by jangy
Don't drive it with the belt off. I'm confused on the diagnosis, though...
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i would not drive it without the S/C belt

Ok...she'll sit in the garage until I can get it ironed out.

The double idler pulley (just left and below the supercharger belt tensioner and pulley when facing the engine/on the passenger side of the car) Has a 6 rib portion for the engine accessory belt, and an 8 rib portion for the kompressor. I kinda lucked out, as I figured the noise was coming from one of the 6 rib pulleys. These cars are so well insulated that had I not been driving next to some fences with the windows down I never would have heard the squeal.

Upon further investigation it seems the bearing inside the 8 rib portion has failed, the pulley wobbles about 3-5mm with very little manipulation. The 6 rib portion of the idler seems nice and tight, so I'd imagine it's a pair of pulleys stacked on a bolt with individual bearings inside.
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Old Sep 1, 2009 | 12:21 AM
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I guess there are 4 pulleys on the supercharger belt - the supercharger itself, the tensioner, the idler and the crank pulley....am I making any sense?
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Old Sep 1, 2009 | 03:05 PM
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I know what you are talking about. Yes, you can replace just the bearing to the aluminum pulley, and it is quite easy. After removing the bolt and pulleys you will notice that both pulleys are on a common shaft which you can tap out, very little effort is needed. Once apart you just need a large snap ring plier. remove snap ring, remove bearing. Bearing is a standard size, #6203. Did this a few months ago, good luck.
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Old Sep 2, 2009 | 11:44 AM
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once you have the bearing number..

try houstonbearings

they sell any type of bearing you can think of.

I used them to find a cheap alternative to my S/C pulley bearing that was making noise.

The bearings won't last as long as the OEM NGK, but will resolve the problem.
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Old Sep 7, 2009 | 07:26 PM
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Awesome info and the 6203 fit like a glove. I had it removed/replaceed in about 45 minutes (lower belt tensioner is a pain from on top of the car)...

First I put it together WITHOUT the bearing spacer between the two pulleys....worked like a charm. When I realized what the spacer was (it flew under a toolbox when I drove the pulleys off the shaft in the first place ) I tore it down to redo it, and the whine is back. How necessary is the spacer? the two pulleys should be spinning at the same speed 99% of the time, right?
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Old Sep 7, 2009 | 10:11 PM
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I recall that the pulleys could be flipped around 180* and would align slightly differently. This might clear up your alignment issue. I would not recommend removing the spacer.
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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by lowprofile
I know what you are talking about. Yes, you can replace just the bearing to the aluminum pulley, and it is quite easy. After removing the bolt and pulleys you will notice that both pulleys are on a common shaft which you can tap out, very little effort is needed. Once apart you just need a large snap ring plier. remove snap ring, remove bearing. Bearing is a standard size, #6203. Did this a few months ago, good luck.
Fellas, I have been dealing with the same issue and many more unrelated to the pulley. Can someone please tell me how to get to the idler pulley? The fan shroud is in the way and I have tried swivel extensions and everything else in my tool box...do I have to remove the that shroud?
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I have one 2002 c32 amg w 50k , and my supercharger having this noise like in this video from YouTube , 3 mechanics 3 different opinions first to replace the all spcgr and pulleys for 4500$ second to change the inside BS part for 1300$ minimum and a third just waiting ,what did you think I can do ? car in excellent condition except this issue , no personal experience with garage and hand work at cars , thanks
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Old Mar 11, 2014 | 03:36 PM
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I got all of mine from Shardull!
Great pulleys!
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Old Mar 12, 2014 | 08:15 PM
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Old Mar 13, 2014 | 01:23 AM
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thanks guys I will check first the pulleys and hoping that this only is the issue I love this car like a old btl of wine )))
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Old Apr 24, 2017 | 11:05 PM
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Same exact noise!

Originally Posted by NikolaosPsarros
thanks guys I will check first the pulleys and hoping that this only is the issue I love this car like a old btl of wine )))
Hello NP
did the pulleys replacement work?
I am having the same exact noise and scared $#@!Less.... I am hoping they did. Which pulleys/ bearings did you replace?
Thank you!
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