stevebez

Think you have to take a "flying" 60mph start ... i.e. you are already WOT on the move when you hit 60, and tyres seated into the tarmac - easily said than done as some have seen.

Starting at a "static" 60mph and flooring it is just too difficult to calibrate I think, and also the traction issue comes into play again. The 60-130 is a pure power calc not a power and traction calc like a 1/4 drag time... at least thats how I see it.

Then again not sure if everyone else is doing it the same as we are here?

Another option might be to accel above 60, let off, and as soon as the speed drops a touch under 60, go for it. I think the performance box can be programmed to buzz when the speed drops below 60, so when this is triggered you can go for it. So here some reaction time, skill, as well as traction come into play...

Some clarification may be in order... not how we do it here (we have set out rules), but to make sure we are congruent with the manner the test is done elsewhere?

Dads C63

Your best bet is to start below 60 in the gear you want to run past 60 in and go from there. I start at about 50-55 in manual in 3rd gear. That way it accelerates up past 60 and then change manually in to 4th and hold it in 4th until 130. 60 is NOT a good speed to start for a C63 because its too low rpm's in 3rd but if you don't it changes gears from 2nd -3rd right at 60 which slows down the time.

I have all bolt on's right now with polished heads. I still have stock cams so the polished heads only gained about 20rwhp. Otherwise its exhaust, polished heads, air box, and tune. These cars can be fast with the right combination.

Oh, for those that ask. The DataBox or Performance Box will calculate the 60-130 time exactly for you. Don't try to do it yourself. There is an icon that has "acceleration" on it. Click on that and select custom and then enter 60 and 130 as starting and stopping speeds and it will calculate it automaically.

930chas - 7.86 is awesome!! You should turn that file in for posting. What databox are you using?
Good luck and be safe!!

930chas

Haha...thanks, but actually 7.86 was pretty bad!! I was in my M3 not the e55.

Also, just using the Vbox.

hotrod182

Just had Scott on M3forum/6speedonline verify my latest run.
9.34 seconds. Still on stock exhaust/cats/intercooler.
Quiet, 30mpg Hwy cruiser!

Here is a 60-130 mph list of some popular cars:

9.3-BMW 335i hotrod182
9.5 - Porsche 997TT
10.06 - 996TT with ECU flash / 1 shift
10.1 - Ferrari F430
10.3 BMW 135I, JB3 BMS
10.3 - BMW M6, stock, 2 shifts
10.48 - BMW E60 M5, stock, 2 shifts
10.48 - C63 AMG with headers and flash
10.80 - BMW E92 M3, Bolt Ons, DCT, 3 shifts
10.9 - Lamborghini Murcielago
10.97 - Nissan GT-R
11.02 - BMW RDS46 Stroker E92 M3, 6mt, 2-shifts
11.0 - Shelby GT500, stock, 2-shifts
11.7 - Ferrari Challenge Stradale
11.87 -997 GT3 RS
12.1 - Lamborghini Gallardo
12.1 E55 AMG Stock
12.2 - 996tt stock
12.64 - Stock DCT E92 M3
12.9 - Stock 6MT E92 M3 Coupe
13.7 - Stock E46 M3 (freak car) / 1 shift
14.3 - Stock E39 M5 / 1 shift

bassn_07

Hey Warren, could you post the screen shot of your run? This is the same car you ran with at Famoso, right? That's a really good number for a car with very little mods .

hotrod182

Its on M3Forum.com, Scott/DivexxExtreme who is a moderator for 6speedonline also goes through and inspects the data and then posts it.

Today I ran one of those 556hp/551tq Supercharged CTS-V Cadillacs. Even though he has a much better power to weight ratio, and got the jump at 40mph, I reeled him in and passed him:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLVsPvgUp-I

And here is a run against a solid 11' second 135i. Additionally he has downpipes, intercooler, catless.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13WC2...eature=channel

prodigymb

i wonder what my car would do 60-130. anyone in pa/nj have a vbox?

Thericker

Good stuff Warren! wish I could've joined you guys def next time I've bought a load of race gas

hotrod182

It was fun but kind of risky this time. One of the M3s got pulled over just for not having a front license plate! So we ended kind of early. Still got about 10 runs in though.

Here is a 122.8 mph trap speed run I just did last night.

11.9 @ 122.8mph
1/8 mile: 7.9 sec @ 97 mph.
0-60: 3.8 seconds
0-100 mph: 8.3 seconds.
60-130:9.5 seconds.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vy_72...eature=channel

930chas

Messed around the other night and ran a 6.4 in the M3 on pump/meth with a suuuupppper slow 3rd-4th shift...lol. Still haven't run a 60-130 in the e55.

prodigymb

how much power is that thing making?

930chas

Pump/meth is ~660rwhp.

prodigymb

hotrod182

Any idea what the M3 will trap in the 1/4 mile?

930chas

If I had to guess 135mph or so. I haven't had it at the track yet, but the few runs I have made on the street the car is a serious handful. There isn't much traction until about 90mph.

hotrod182

Okay, so a lot has happened in the last few months. I got my 60-130 down to 9.09 seconds with a different map I down loaded. JB3 version 2.0. I also installed a small .28 dry shot system yesterday morning and went straight to the drag strip. 11.33 at 132.77 mph!

My 60-130 times so far is 7.9 seconds. That will improve once I get a little tuning done. I'm predicting 7.7 seconds or lower.

REALA2R

What does your Grand National run 60-130?

Thericker

Was this in Sacramento? Let's run'em this wknd

hotrod182

I'm testing my 60-130 times this week, and I will be damned if I don't get it below 7.7 seconds!

Hit me up any time you want to test yours late night.

Thericker

I don't have your # send it to me again, I could care less about vbox stuff, I want to run your 335i w/Nitrous Get your vid camera out n' lets run'em I'm good Fri-Sat night...

hotrod182

You should beat my 3.0L I think. The small dry shot is only good for about 60Hp according to the dyno on Brians 135i. I bought the system from him for $100, LOL. I would be interested to see how you would do at the track or what 60-130mph times your beast will run. The 60-130 takes the start and traction problems out of the equation for the most part.

Thericker

Come on now... You ran 11.3x @ nearly 133mph that trap is showing some serious power bud, I'll be running @ Famoso soon enough. So you're telling me you think my SL can top a 133mph trap

You can run all the nitrous you can carry, all I need is 93+ octane, what's the harm in some roll-ons I'll run you w/my 19" street setup vs your drag 17"s in your 1/4 mi spot then we hit the frwy I'm really not into the vbox stuf

hotrod182

I will let you know soon as I get some more Vbox testing done. I am trying to hook up a video showing my speedo/boost, etc. I need to do it for the sake of fine tuning my shift points, boost levels, etc.

Let me know if you want to get some logs on your car though. The Vbox graphs don't lie and you could see how your acceleration graph is, and all the mph splits, etc. If you want, I could send you your results to post if you choose.

Seriously, its hard to tell in roll racing. One person gets a 1/2 second jump, and the results are totally overemphasized or nullified. Just look at Drew's videos against those faster cars before he was supercharged.

Does anyone on here have any insight on how my car would do against Seans car? I know the stock SL65 traps around 125mph?

Thericker

You, then you say "ohh you'll beat my lil 3 liter" then I agree to run you in your 1/4 spot from a dig as long as you repay favor w/rollons (3) honks hit @ 3rd honk whats so difficult?

Your Trap speed w/nitrous shot will be very evident from 55-130ish or 40-120 inmop w/out a REAL 1/4 track it's the most accurate test of who's faster, we can do the rolls till we both feel we started fairly, I've done this 100's of time w/Mario/other racers etc..

Get er done man

blackbenzz

Not true. And he has a 600, not the 65