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Old Jun 1, 2016 | 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted by pearlpower
As we all know, the OEM supercharger idler pulley bearing is prone to premature wear. The factory pulley is expensive as usual and the only item that goes south on these is the bearing which is readily available from many sources including Ebay for under $5.00.

First off, keep in mind that this can be done in the garage , a press is recommended though with perseverance it can be done without one. You will just need to get creative with large sockets and/or a vice.

Also, ASP is apparently working on a nice forged unit with a quality bearing for a great price and I would recommend the layman to go that route if you are not comfortable with the following.

The bearing number is a 6203 and I highly recommend purchasing a 6203ZZ which is rated to 17k rpm. I picked mine up for $4.99 to my door.

First thing is to remove the belts and there are xlnt write ups on those below.

Supercharger belt

Serpentine belt

Now on to removing the pulleys as both must be removed at the same time. They are held on with a long bolt and a T50 hex is required at this point. As space is limited I used the T50 with a 10mm box wrench to loosen the bolt and then removed it with my hand.

The entire assembly will come out and you will noticed the front SC idler will just slide off the sleeve.



Once you flip it over you will see a large c-clip. Large c-clip pliers are recommended as smaller or angled units are more prone to slip or bend. It should just take a few seconds. As always I wrap the middle with masking tape to keep the clip from flying away once removed.




Once the c-clip is removed, it is now time to remove the bearing assembly from the pulley. I used a press though a large socket on one end and another socket on the other should allow you to to knock it out.



Once removed you will see the bearing assembly which is encased in a steel sleeve. This will be the most difficult part of the procedure. It is very easy with a press, though again, I suppose placing a large socket under the lip of the sleeve which will allow the bearing to come through would work. Either way, the bearing needs to be removed (you sure you would rather not just buy that ASP unit right now?).

The old bearing in the steel sleeve.



This is what the old bearing (upper right) appears when removed from the sleeve (bottom) and my new bearing (upper left).



The rest is easy.
Just tap the new bearing into the sleeve until it stops.

Install this assembly into the pulley until it stops. There is no exact measurement. Once you have enough room for the c-clip to fit, install it and your done.



First sorry for digging up this old thread but what torque for reinstall the Pulleys?
How to remove the plastic cover on the idlers?
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Old Aug 4, 2016 | 03:39 PM
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There was no sleeve when i took the old bearing out and now the new bearing 6203zz I put in is loose and lots of play....I can push the bearing in or out of the pulley by hand force... I reinstalled and it has no noise but has lots of wiggle if i wiggle it. I'm baffled. Can anyone chime in on this?
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Old Aug 5, 2016 | 07:49 AM
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Old Aug 5, 2016 | 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by StarvingArtist
Do the numbers match from old to new?
I will check in a couple hours when I get home. But i remember visually they looked about the same size. Do you know if some cars did not have the sleeve i the pulley?
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Old Aug 5, 2016 | 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by MUSTANGRIDAH
There was no sleeve when i took the old bearing out and now the new bearing 6203zz I put in is loose and lots of play....I can push the bearing in or out of the pulley by hand force... I reinstalled and it has no noise but has lots of wiggle if i wiggle it. I'm baffled. Can anyone chime in on this?
My alloy pullies were like that, and you can read what ended up happening there !
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Old Aug 6, 2016 | 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by MUSTANGRIDAH
I will check in a couple hours when I get home. But i remember visually they looked about the same size. Do you know if some cars did not have the sleeve i the pulley?
No, I don't know. I just read the numbers on my bearing and ordered one from amazon. I don't remember a sleeve, but that was two years ago.
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Old Aug 6, 2016 | 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by MUSTANGRIDAH
There was no sleeve when i took the old bearing out and now the new bearing 6203zz I put in is loose and lots of play....I can push the bearing in or out of the pulley by hand force... I reinstalled and it has no noise but has lots of wiggle if i wiggle it. I'm baffled. Can anyone chime in on this?
This is what happened to me to. Sometimes these bearings dont work to loose. Its the pulley not the bearing from memory.
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Old Sep 9, 2016 | 01:23 AM
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Is there an OEM replacement bearing for this that can be purchased from mercedes?
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What is the torque value of the idler bolt?

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Old Jan 18, 2019 | 12:09 AM
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Excellent thread, thank you.
For those in Australia, I couldn't get the Dayco 89130 easily, but it cross-references to a NuLine EP244 which is an all steel pulley which fits perfectly with no mods.
Mine cost $60.
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Old Oct 19, 2019 | 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by SuperChargerE55
First sorry for digging up this old thread but what torque for reinstall the Pulleys?
How to remove the plastic cover on the idlers?
question: Why do people apologize for posting in an old thread,especially when their question is relevant to the information in the thread, regardless of the thread's age?
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Old Jun 15, 2020 | 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by munich55
I know it's an old thread but i tried to change the bearing and bought the 6203zz but there was no sleeve and the stock bearing is a bit wider.




I've also encountered the same issue. anybody know the stock bearing part number?
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Old Jun 15, 2020 | 08:13 PM
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Does anybody know what size the snap ring is for replacement? I replaced the plastic pulley although I had taken out the snap ring thinking it was necessary to remove the inner shaft to separate the two pulleys but it wasn't. I reused it but I didn't have another bearing to put in the aluminum pulley and I was thinking that I could order a new bearing for the metal pulley and put a new snap ring in there because I reused the slightly bent one.
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I've also encountered the same issue. anybody know the stock bearing part number?
6203RDDL/1
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I paid $100 to order a pulley that had a sleeve and then I did all of that but when I got to the part to put the sleeved bearing back into the pulley, I started pressing it back in, and it went in sideways and I destroyed the whole pulley. What a waste. Now I am a little north of $350 in the hole considering I just ordered a Febi replacement double idler, and the cost of a brand new Mercedes part is around $450.
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