W211 AMG Discuss the W211 AMG's such as the E55 and the E63

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Old Mar 4, 2010 | 03:48 PM
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LOL I'm starting to believe that most of the people who replied to this thread think he drives like that. rolflmao
+1. MBWorld is definitely not the forum for this type of mod. The tastes here are much different, which is relfected in the many negative replies. While I'm not into this look either, the work was well executed. The owner and I go to the same shop. It's obvious that this height is just for parking. The suspension was custom made for this car. The shop's owner is working on a coilover setup for the W211 as well.
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Old Mar 4, 2010 | 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Igor180
LOL I'm starting to believe that most of the people who replied to this thread think he drives like that. rolflmao
seriously, wtf is everyone thinking. the bags allow you to drop it for show, nobody's driving it like that
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Old Mar 5, 2010 | 04:26 AM
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seriously, wtf is everyone thinking. the bags allow you to drop it for show, nobody's driving it like that
Of course. Who in their right mind would think you would or even could drive it like that? Come on guys you're smarter than that.
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Old Mar 5, 2010 | 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Igor180
LOL I'm starting to believe that most of the people who replied to this thread think he drives like that. rolflmao
Well what are cars for ??? If you buy a car to pose & look rediculous ... well good luck to ya.

Have to say probably a very effective anti theft system as most people will think the car is broken.
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Old Mar 5, 2010 | 12:55 PM
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Ill tell you the benefits... you aint getting towed.

hahahah! AHHAHAHA LMFAO! that has to be the smartest comment on here.
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Old Mar 5, 2010 | 01:26 PM
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Those clean pics make the car look a lot more respectable.
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Old Mar 5, 2010 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by infantry
hahahah! AHHAHAHA LMFAO! that has to be the smartest comment on here.
Well honestly, I dont know what else to say and what other benefits there are to this...

It doesnt look that great it looks like one of those lowrider trucks to be honest... and I aint a fan of lowriders.
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Old Mar 5, 2010 | 09:13 PM
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Guys, air suppension and airmatic are almost the same they both can raise the car up and down. His pictures shown with the car dropped (parked)
Have you been to the low rider show..? when he lift up, there are no different by the look with the airmatic. I'm thinking doing my because of soo many failer with the airmatic. Overall I'd like how the car look.
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Originally Posted by Jeffield
Ill tell you the benefits... you aint getting towed.

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Old Mar 10, 2010 | 06:59 PM
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I don't get why anyone would want to do that to a vehicle like this? Lowering it a few centimeters, I can understand. But that low? I realize that you probably wouldn't drive it that low, but some do. Honestly, this is almost as bad as seeing those 90 Caprices with 22" or 24" wheels and hydraulics...
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Old Mar 10, 2010 | 07:37 PM
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hey man! if you like it, LAY THAT FRAME BOY!
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Old Mar 14, 2010 | 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by infantry
hahahah! AHHAHAHA LMFAO! that has to be the smartest comment on here.
hilarious
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Old Mar 14, 2010 | 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Jeffield
Ill tell you the benefits... you aint getting towed.
I actually had the pleasure of watching a vehicle (S10 in this case) that was slammed to the ground get towed. The guy was clearly illegally parked in front of a state-owned building. Not only did the city tow the vehicle, they did NOT use a flat bed. The owner was also arrested because when he found out his vehicle was being towed, he assaulted the tow truck driver. I am sure that car was jacked, as the impound lot involved the use of a highway! I would have loved to have a camera with me that day and followed the tow truck driver and gotten pictures afterwards! Just because your vehicle is that low, don't mean you ain't gettin a tow!!!
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Old May 9, 2010 | 02:30 PM
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Back from the dead, but I found this thread as I am considering bagging an E55. I can't believe people so willing to express how ignorant and misinformed they are.

From my own experience and extensive research.

1. Air ride can have performance benefits. The airsprings have variable spring rates and perform at their desired level, especially when pared with a performance strut. Chances are, if you have experienced a poorly performing it was either riding outside of it's intended spec. More air = stiffer, but too much is bouncy. Also if it is too low, you effectively lower your shock travel and will wear the shock faster. The same is true with an excessively lowered coilover system.
2. You can align the car at your ride height. A digital system or manual system with digital guages allow for greater accuracy, this will save your tires.
3. You don't have to worry about speed bumps or scraping your lip on steep driveways. My (non-MBZ) on air ride goes higher then stock. Something you stupidly low guys on coilovers can't say.
4. Air ride will generally ride MUCH better then a coilover setup as you can effectively tune the load capacity to match the load of the car. Some higher end coilovers allow for this, but you typically can't adjust the ride height to match a loaded down trunk or more weight on one side.
5. Air ride technology is rapidly increasing. The classic muscle car and hot rod community has benefited greatly from its advancements.

Some of you guys might want to do some research before you flex your e-muscles. If your stance is "too each his own" why is there an incessant need to comment? Instead of looking stupid, simply hit the back button.

If anyone would like to discuss air ride intelligently, please feel free to comment. I've previously owned another car with a faulty factory air system (Range Rover) and if I buy an E55/E63 with airmatic, my first task will be ripping it out.
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Old May 9, 2010 | 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by DuckyAMG
Back from the dead, but I found this thread as I am considering bagging an E55. I can't believe people so willing to express how ignorant and misinformed they are.

From my own experience and extensive research.

1. Air ride can have performance benefits. The airsprings have variable spring rates and perform at their desired level, especially when pared with a performance strut. Chances are, if you have experienced a poorly performing it was either riding outside of it's intended spec. More air = stiffer, but too much is bouncy. Also if it is too low, you effectively lower your shock travel and will wear the shock faster. The same is true with an excessively lowered coilover system.
2. You can align the car at your ride height. A digital system or manual system with digital guages allow for greater accuracy, this will save your tires.
3. You don't have to worry about speed bumps or scraping your lip on steep driveways. My (non-MBZ) on air ride goes higher then stock. Something you stupidly low guys on coilovers can't say.
4. Air ride will generally ride MUCH better then a coilover setup as you can effectively tune the load capacity to match the load of the car. Some higher end coilovers allow for this, but you typically can't adjust the ride height to match a loaded down trunk or more weight on one side.
5. Air ride technology is rapidly increasing. The classic muscle car and hot rod community has benefited greatly from its advancements.

Some of you guys might want to do some research before you flex your e-muscles. If your stance is "too each his own" why is there an incessant need to comment? Instead of looking stupid, simply hit the back button.

If anyone would like to discuss air ride intelligently, please feel free to comment. I've previously owned another car with a faulty factory air system (Range Rover) and if I buy an E55/E63 with airmatic, my first task will be ripping it out.
I guess for the same reason you felt like commenting. After all, you used the words stupid and ignorant several times
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Old May 9, 2010 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by 220S
I guess for the same reason you felt like commenting. After all, you used the words stupid and ignorant several times

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Old May 9, 2010 | 04:02 PM
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Old May 9, 2010 | 04:21 PM
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I agree with Ducky. You basically have 0 options for your suspension other then lowering it and the built in adjustments. I think it's worth exploring, not demonizing.
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Old May 9, 2010 | 04:58 PM
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fwiw, I noticed that Arnott has been designing steel suspensions to replace air systems on the Range Rover, Audi Allroad, and some GM cars. I called them and they said they were looking into doing the same for E55/63 suspensions. But no time line or commitment or anything. But since the new W212 no longer has an air front, maybe they won't bother(?)
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Old May 9, 2010 | 05:50 PM
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I'll get mine bagged only if someone can show me how to fit 24" spinners and hold a glock sideways yo
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Old May 9, 2010 | 06:22 PM
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Old May 9, 2010 | 06:42 PM
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Air Matic IS Air suspension. I think it looks great, but needs different wheels to set it off truly.
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Old May 10, 2010 | 01:25 AM
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Originally Posted by acb
I'll get mine bagged only if someone can show me how to fit 24" spinners and hold a glock sideways yo
You're right... these cars are totally ghetto.









You can either stick with a faulty/expensive OEM system or explore alternatives that potentially offer more functionality, performance and reliability.

My very first aftermarket air setup used Aerosport bags over an adjustable strut I borrowed from a previous set of coils.




Several companies have now produced bagged struts at reasonable prices, the advantage of my first setup was that the aerosport bags were cheap and if I had any issues, it was a simple swap to replace the new one.

With the bagged strut, which typically uses a Bilstein or Koni adjustable strut, the replacement process is a little more extensive.

Here are two different applications side by side.
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Old May 10, 2010 | 05:48 AM
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Old May 10, 2010 | 07:53 AM
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Ducky,

So what is your point?
Most of us here don't have Camaros, Mustangs, old trucks, ect.
Do you have a system that is better than the AirMatic for the E55?

BTW here is how to fix airmatic for $399 a side,

https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...there-any.html

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