evosport rotors...wtf???
#26
If you don't mind brake dust, and assuming there's an application available for your calipers, I highly recommend Ferodo's DS2500 compound. I've been running pads of that compound with my Brembo Gran Turismo brakes since I installed them, and have nothing but good things to say about the pads.
#27
I also have the same set which was purchase and recommended by a supporting vendor. I have the same exact issues as Mike described but now I have slight cracks. I was hoping for some type of resolution but it seems like it wont be happening.
I contacted the vendor but at first but after zero results I contacted Evosport myself. They also claim that my problems were most likely caused by EBC red pads...
. I'm not denying this but it would have been great if we were told this from the beginning. It's very easy to say this after the fact through other peoples experiences. It just suck that those unfortunate enough not to read or hear about the warning needs to suffer. Overall I'm a little disappointed with the overall experience of my Evosport rotors and at this point I wouldn't recommend them. I'm still hoping that there's something they could do to help resolve my situation but I'm definitely not holding my breath.
BTW...I have switched to Akebonos and braking has improved slightly but now they squeak...
.
I contacted the vendor but at first but after zero results I contacted Evosport myself. They also claim that my problems were most likely caused by EBC red pads...
![nix](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/nixweiss.gif)
BTW...I have switched to Akebonos and braking has improved slightly but now they squeak...
![nix](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/nixweiss.gif)
We have sold HUNDREDS of these kits worldwide without issues to very happy customers who drive their cars very hard. I'm sorry for your experience, but let's not blame the rotor. I'll be happy to help you out with replacement parts as a courtesy.
If anyone has specific issues or questions, please call or email us.
#28
Super Member
"I'll be happy to help you out with replacement parts as a courtesy."
I wish that was the attitude all automotive vendors had... Way to step up to the plate
I wish that was the attitude all automotive vendors had... Way to step up to the plate
![thumbs](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif)
#29
MBWorld Fanatic!
jsut deal withthem directly
they have great customer service and stand behind their products
#30
MBWorld Fanatic!
Originally Posted by Simon @ evosport;4003818
[B
[B
We have sold HUNDREDS of these kits worldwide without issues[/B]
Well not quite true...since there are members in this thread stating their issues and dissatisfaction with your rotors. Actually the whole reason this thread was started was because a customer had issues.
It doesn't take a marketing guru to realize that for every single complaint that are most likely others out there having issues that simply have not spoken up..or realized them yet.
I find it amazingly arrogant that your response to this issue is to say..."well no one else complained, so it can't be our Uber fantastic, deluxe, world's greatest rotor..."
And by "help" do you mean you are going to give the customer free replacements?
#31
Can you clarify what your dissappoint is specific to the rotors? Let's be realistic here. We can't provide you with information we don't have. So saying it's easy to do so after the fact is only applicable if we were aware of the issues caused by the EBC pads (as far as we can tell) or by not bedding in the brakes properly. So your comments are really unfair. Furthermore, we can't test EVERY possible pad with our rotors.
We have sold HUNDREDS of these kits worldwide without issues to very happy customers who drive their cars very hard. I'm sorry for your experience, but let's not blame the rotor. I'll be happy to help you out with replacement parts as a courtesy.
If anyone has specific issues or questions, please call or email us.
We have sold HUNDREDS of these kits worldwide without issues to very happy customers who drive their cars very hard. I'm sorry for your experience, but let's not blame the rotor. I'll be happy to help you out with replacement parts as a courtesy.
If anyone has specific issues or questions, please call or email us.
Several people have asked me about the rotors and at this time I can't comment nor recommend the rotors due to the fact that I have yet witnessed its potential. I just took a look at my rotors again and I have several 1" cracks forming near the holes.
I now have Akebono pads on them and they seemed to get a little better but they definitely don't have the bite stock rotors and pads do. Going back and forth between two E55's I notice a huge difference in braking power, both with the Akebono and EBC red pads. Like I said, this could very well be the result of the EBC red pads but from here it's all speculation.
I'm looking forward to getting this resolved and truly hope you guys mean what you say. I really want to believe that this will be resolved soon but after 6-8 months I hope you could understand my concerns.
Well not quite true...since there are members in this thread stating their issues and dissatisfaction with your rotors. Actually the whole reason this thread was started was because a customer had issues.
It doesn't take a marketing guru to realize that for every single complaint that are most likely others out there having issues that simply have not spoken up..or realized them yet.
I find it amazingly arrogant that your response to this issue is to say..."well no one else complained, so it can't be our Uber fantastic, deluxe, world's greatest rotor..."
And by "help" do you mean you are going to give the customer free replacements?
It doesn't take a marketing guru to realize that for every single complaint that are most likely others out there having issues that simply have not spoken up..or realized them yet.
I find it amazingly arrogant that your response to this issue is to say..."well no one else complained, so it can't be our Uber fantastic, deluxe, world's greatest rotor..."
And by "help" do you mean you are going to give the customer free replacements?
I'm really hoping that they do give me a free replacement because either way I'm going to be out more money. I figure it's going to be at least a $200 to swap out all the rotors.
#32
MBWorld Fanatic!
it sucks to hear that you guys are having problems with those rotors as i have a set myself. i just took a look at mine and so far they seem to be ok, they are still fairly new though. ive been using the akebono pads on them from the start. i will however keep a close eye on them.
i do want to add that dale was great guy and was a pleasure to deal with.
i do want to add that dale was great guy and was a pleasure to deal with.
#33
MBWorld Fanatic!
Plus am due for them been replaced any way, as per service instructions.
gl on ur ordeal, just thought i would mention that stock rotors also get this.
#34
MBWorld Fanatic!
Thread Starter
evosport/simon has agreed to take a look at my rotors which is a great step in the right direction. it's nice to see this compared to some of the other happenings in the tuner marketplace.
i'll keep everyone updated as to the outcome.
i'll keep everyone updated as to the outcome.
![thumbs](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif)
#37
Dale and Simon agreed to take care of this situation for me also.
#38
MBWorld Fanatic!
Thread Starter
i tried to order slotted only when i first purchased them but was told they were no longer available. if these do get replaced and they're available now, i'm hoping i can get them...
#39
MBWorld Fanatic!
I have to ask, WHY do EBC red stuff pads EAT up your rotors, when they work GREAT with OEM from MB, Chrysler, Ford, Chevrolet, GM, BMW, etc, etc![nix](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/nixweiss.gif)
I have used and tracked red stuff pads on MANY cars, and guess what, they NEVER ate a rotor, or caused build up on them, or excessive wear.
I have to believe that the metallurgy on these rotors is too soft to hold up to a good pad. Note, I did not say aggressive pad, as I have used WAY more aggressive pads in my days than EBC red stuff. Think Bendix friction King twos, and Yellowstuff.
Gentlemen, WHAT GIVES HERE?
I find it EXTREMELY odd, that ONLY the EBC red stuff pads are NOT recommended, and other pads are okay.
Did something have to give in order to save the weight maybe?
![nix](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/nixweiss.gif)
I have used and tracked red stuff pads on MANY cars, and guess what, they NEVER ate a rotor, or caused build up on them, or excessive wear.
I have to believe that the metallurgy on these rotors is too soft to hold up to a good pad. Note, I did not say aggressive pad, as I have used WAY more aggressive pads in my days than EBC red stuff. Think Bendix friction King twos, and Yellowstuff.
Gentlemen, WHAT GIVES HERE?
I find it EXTREMELY odd, that ONLY the EBC red stuff pads are NOT recommended, and other pads are okay.
Did something have to give in order to save the weight maybe?
#40
Out Of Control!!
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: OC
Posts: 18,677
Likes: 0
Received 9 Likes
on
9 Posts
a quarter mile at a time
I have to ask, WHY do EBC red stuff pads EAT up your rotors, when they work GREAT with OEM from MB, Chrysler, Ford, Chevrolet, GM, BMW, etc, etc![nix](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/nixweiss.gif)
I have used and tracked red stuff pads on MANY cars, and guess what, they NEVER ate a rotor, or caused build up on them, or excessive wear.
I have to believe that the metallurgy on these rotors is too soft to hold up to a good pad. Note, I did not say aggressive pad, as I have used WAY more aggressive pads in my days than EBC red stuff. Think Bendix friction King twos, and Yellowstuff.
Gentlemen, WHAT GIVES HERE?
I find it EXTREMELY odd, that ONLY the EBC red stuff pads are NOT recommended, and other pads are okay.
Did something have to give in order to save the weight maybe?
![nix](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/nixweiss.gif)
I have used and tracked red stuff pads on MANY cars, and guess what, they NEVER ate a rotor, or caused build up on them, or excessive wear.
I have to believe that the metallurgy on these rotors is too soft to hold up to a good pad. Note, I did not say aggressive pad, as I have used WAY more aggressive pads in my days than EBC red stuff. Think Bendix friction King twos, and Yellowstuff.
Gentlemen, WHAT GIVES HERE?
I find it EXTREMELY odd, that ONLY the EBC red stuff pads are NOT recommended, and other pads are okay.
Did something have to give in order to save the weight maybe?
#42
With regards to member being dissatisfied, again, they are certainly dissatisfied that they are having issues. Ths is NOT to say the issue is the rotor. I want to make that clear. Yet you seem convinced otherwise. Perhaps you have information that none of us here have?
It doesn't take a marketing guru to realize that for every single complaint that are most likely others out there having issues that simply have not spoken up..or realized them yet.
I find it amazingly arrogant that your response to this issue is to say..."well no one else complained, so it can't be our Uber fantastic, deluxe, world's greatest rotor..."
I find it amazingly arrogant that your response to this issue is to say..."well no one else complained, so it can't be our Uber fantastic, deluxe, world's greatest rotor..."
And by "help" do you mean you are going to give the customer free replacements?
#43
MBWorld Fanatic!
They absolutly do not work great with OEM rotors. I had EBC Redstuff pas with OEM rotors and this exact issue came up, I did not track or drag race my car while I had those EBC pads on. I really think EBC has a major QC issue, some of these pads come out great and others have a huge ammount of problems. I'm glad you've never had an issue, but it's quite evident here that many others have had different experiences. In general, why would anyone chance using these pads when there are so many other, better choices. I believe the stock pads are jurid, with the only drawback for daily use is that they dust heavily. Otherwise it's a good, grabby pad, although I couldn't suggest it for track or heavy use.
I tracked my C32 HARD, and to the best of my belief it is a Mercedes Benz, and it did have stock rotors. Now with that being said, the stock brake pads would fade after 16-18 minutes on a tight track. Switched to EBC red stuff, and guess what, they NEVER faded during a whole 25-28 minute session. Same tracks, and almost forget, better tires, which meant HIGHER speeds so even MORE braking.
AS far as dust, they wore about half of the oem pads.
I don't know what they shipped you my friend. But after my very first track day with Red stuff, I switch to them for ALL of my cars.
Which is why I included that list of brands, because those are the cars that I had and have first hand knowledge on the subject of brake pads.
Oh well, not trying to bust your stones, but I have yet to find an all around pad as good as EBC red stuff. They are track worthy, low dust, rotor friendly, and flat out work.
If I do find a better pad, I will gladly switch all mine out again
![Big Grin](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
#44
Out Of Control!!
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: OC
Posts: 18,677
Likes: 0
Received 9 Likes
on
9 Posts
a quarter mile at a time
Well, this is where I have to disagree with you again my friend.
I tracked my C32 HARD, and to the best of my belief it is a Mercedes Benz, and it did have stock rotors. Now with that being said, the stock brake pads would fade after 16-18 minutes on a tight track. Switched to EBC red stuff, and guess what, they NEVER faded during a whole 25-28 minute session. Same tracks, and almost forget, better tires, which meant HIGHER speeds so even MORE braking.
AS far as dust, they wore about half of the oem pads.
I don't know what they shipped you my friend. But after my very first track day with Red stuff, I switch to them for ALL of my cars.
Which is why I included that list of brands, because those are the cars that I had and have first hand knowledge on the subject of brake pads.
Oh well, not trying to bust your stones, but I have yet to find an all around pad as good as EBC red stuff. They are track worthy, low dust, rotor friendly, and flat out work.
If I do find a better pad, I will gladly switch all mine out again![Big Grin](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
I tracked my C32 HARD, and to the best of my belief it is a Mercedes Benz, and it did have stock rotors. Now with that being said, the stock brake pads would fade after 16-18 minutes on a tight track. Switched to EBC red stuff, and guess what, they NEVER faded during a whole 25-28 minute session. Same tracks, and almost forget, better tires, which meant HIGHER speeds so even MORE braking.
AS far as dust, they wore about half of the oem pads.
I don't know what they shipped you my friend. But after my very first track day with Red stuff, I switch to them for ALL of my cars.
Which is why I included that list of brands, because those are the cars that I had and have first hand knowledge on the subject of brake pads.
Oh well, not trying to bust your stones, but I have yet to find an all around pad as good as EBC red stuff. They are track worthy, low dust, rotor friendly, and flat out work.
If I do find a better pad, I will gladly switch all mine out again
![Big Grin](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
If anyone wants to read, check here. Similar discussion, many people had bad experiences with EBC, with MRAMG1 stating that they are a great pad. The absolutely could have worked out for him, but many others have had not so favorable results, including myself, and now it seems like some here on the w211 AMG forum.
#45
I'm not a 100% positive the EBC red pads were the cause but I could tell you that I would never buy another set. I'm just glad Evopsort opted to stand behind their product with full support. Akebonos will be the choice of brakes for me here on out.
#48
MBWorld Fanatic!
#49
MBWorld Fanatic!
Well, this is where I have to disagree with you again my friend.
I tracked my C32 HARD, and to the best of my belief it is a Mercedes Benz, and it did have stock rotors. Now with that being said, the stock brake pads would fade after 16-18 minutes on a tight track. Switched to EBC red stuff, and guess what, they NEVER faded during a whole 25-28 minute session. Same tracks, and almost forget, better tires, which meant HIGHER speeds so even MORE braking.
AS far as dust, they wore about half of the oem pads.
I don't know what they shipped you my friend. But after my very first track day with Red stuff, I switch to them for ALL of my cars.
Which is why I included that list of brands, because those are the cars that I had and have first hand knowledge on the subject of brake pads.
Oh well, not trying to bust your stones, but I have yet to find an all around pad as good as EBC red stuff. They are track worthy, low dust, rotor friendly, and flat out work.
If I do find a better pad, I will gladly switch all mine out again![Big Grin](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
I tracked my C32 HARD, and to the best of my belief it is a Mercedes Benz, and it did have stock rotors. Now with that being said, the stock brake pads would fade after 16-18 minutes on a tight track. Switched to EBC red stuff, and guess what, they NEVER faded during a whole 25-28 minute session. Same tracks, and almost forget, better tires, which meant HIGHER speeds so even MORE braking.
AS far as dust, they wore about half of the oem pads.
I don't know what they shipped you my friend. But after my very first track day with Red stuff, I switch to them for ALL of my cars.
Which is why I included that list of brands, because those are the cars that I had and have first hand knowledge on the subject of brake pads.
Oh well, not trying to bust your stones, but I have yet to find an all around pad as good as EBC red stuff. They are track worthy, low dust, rotor friendly, and flat out work.
If I do find a better pad, I will gladly switch all mine out again
![Big Grin](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
#50
MBWorld Fanatic!
Its great you love your Reds, but IMO they suck! I have had problems with them in the past od OEM and aftermarket rotors. EBC makes the best motorcycle pads money can buy, some of their pads for lightweight imports are good too, but they are lagging in the performance category for high HP cars overs about 3400 pounds. There are threads on all the forums with people griping about EBC Red pads, if you are happy with them good for you but there are a half dozen other pads out there that will outperform them on your 4000 pound CLS.
PS: There are also numerous threads form members beside me that LIKE their EBC's as well. So IMHO, opinions are like, well you can fill in the blank. But track results are what I base my opinions on. AS I am sure you do to
![thumbs](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif)