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Old Apr 27, 2010 | 01:43 AM
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Thumbs up Private Label MFG H/E and Headers

Just installed Private Label's Heat exchanger and shorty headers. First off, i want to mention that the welds and build quality of the header was amazing. Can be comparable to Renntech, for sure. The shorty headers fit perfectly into place. Just dropped the oem exhaust and unbolted/install the new headers. The heat exchanger was exactly as described. Didn't require any type of modification to get it fitted. Bolts right on to the factory bumper rail and is keeping my car nice and cool for the summer time. Thanks, Kenny @ PLM mfg! if interested shoot him an email: hondapartsales@gmail.com

My cars baseline on a mustang dyno was 392whp/441wtq. Just bolting on the header, h/e, and 168mm pulley i was already at 438whp/499wtq. Increase of +46hp and +58wtq.

After a custom tune the numbers jumped to 470whp/539wtq. I am very happy with my little setup. I can't believe it took me a year to pull the trigger for these mods.










EDIT*** Here are the dyno sheets

My baseline dyno: 392whp 441wtq


With just the headers installed: 415whp 460wtq


With the headers, 168mm pulley, h/e, and tune: 470whp 539wtq

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Old Apr 27, 2010 | 02:37 AM
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Wow congrats!!! You really improved your numbers big time! Is the power unbelievably more noticeable now and at the top end? Also, you care to share a clip of how your car sounds now with the headers if there is any change?
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Old Apr 27, 2010 | 06:25 AM
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Nice looking headers, and you definitely made some good power with your upgrades! Congrats.
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Old Apr 27, 2010 | 07:27 AM
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Hello Daniel: your car made great numbers on the dyno I really like the stance & ride height. and Your wheel style. Nice package altogether. It was great meeting you & your sweet heart at the dyno tune GTG

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Old Apr 27, 2010 | 07:46 AM
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My only critique, I would have ceramic \ Jet Hot the headers before installation. Otherwise good job.
P.S: You have sexy hands
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Old Apr 27, 2010 | 01:13 PM
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Old Apr 27, 2010 | 02:04 PM
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Great numbers for shorty headers and a small pulley upgrade Now try to get to a track and see how she does
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Old Apr 27, 2010 | 02:12 PM
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Great numbers! Now time to back them up at the track!
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Old Apr 27, 2010 | 02:13 PM
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Nice rwhp/rwtq pickup.. Curious, what made you decide a 168mm as opposed to the other sizes?
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Old Apr 27, 2010 | 05:56 PM
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anymore pictures of the header model ?
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Old Apr 27, 2010 | 06:45 PM
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Nice rwhp/rwtq pickup.. Curious, what made you decide a 168mm as opposed to the other sizes?
well, today I just put a 180mm on
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Old Apr 27, 2010 | 07:18 PM
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Great gains!

To me, these headers look just like RENNtech's shorty.
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Old Apr 27, 2010 | 07:38 PM
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Great gains!

To me, these headers look just like RENNtech's shorty.
+1

You're right, they look identical. Does anyone know if RT makes their parts in-house in FL, or do they have product sourced from overseas? If the latter, these might be the exact same header, if PLM sources from the same manufacturer.
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Old Apr 27, 2010 | 07:52 PM
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anymore pictures of the header model ?
her on a good day...



her on a bad day...


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Old Apr 27, 2010 | 08:00 PM
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Nice gains

Looks good, nice numbers.

Did you tune and dyno with the 180 pulley?

I would like to know the difference between pulleys.

I have a 168 Renntech in the garage and I am just waiting for some longtube headers before installing.
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Old Apr 27, 2010 | 08:08 PM
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Yea, dyno/tuned with the 180mm is +23 wtq & +5whp....i am much MUCH more satisfied with the 180mm. Dyno sheets will be uploaded tomorrow to show the difference in power curves
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Old Apr 27, 2010 | 10:25 PM
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Awesome gains! I'm glad all the boys in Florida had a blast while making some real gains. Enjoy the new found power and get that thing to the track.
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Old Apr 27, 2010 | 11:07 PM
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I hear there's a beastly E55 cruising 4#1 ;-)
I knew the 180 was going to put a kool aid smile on your face. Time for some meth for that extra 30 horse!!
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Old Apr 27, 2010 | 11:26 PM
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I bought a PLM heat exchanger which fit perfectly. It was a great value.


Now there shorties are listed at $3,995.....that is a ludicrously high price for an off label set of headers. It does say OBO on their Ebay listing. $1,500-$1,800 would definitely be more enticing.

I too am interested in a sound clip.

Every header type seems to have different drone's
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Old Apr 27, 2010 | 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by azncantonw211
Yea, dyno/tuned with the 180mm is +23 wtq & +5whp....i am much MUCH more satisfied with the 180mm. Dyno sheets will be uploaded tomorrow to show the difference in power curves
Interesting. From some posts on the forums here, I would have expected more of a gain with a 12mm increase in pulley size. Anyway, nice overall work and gains which wake the car up much more from stock!
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Old Apr 28, 2010 | 02:08 PM
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BUMP, dyno sheets are up...tonight i will post the 180mm thanks for all the positive comments
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Originally Posted by azncantonw211
BUMP, dyno sheets are up...tonight i will post the 180mm thanks for all the positive comments
What kind of 180mm pulley is (who made it)? Who did your tune?

When I had:

1- Brabus pulley that came with the car (I don't know the exact size but for sure around 168 - 175mm)
2- Kleemann header
3- K&N Filter
4- Fluid Motor Union tune

I had 498 whp.

So with you having 180mm, supposing that PLM header will give close or the same hp as Kleemann header, you should have more whp than I did. better than that.

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Old Apr 29, 2010 | 01:20 AM
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Can any of you share your opinions of the PLM vs. the Fluid Motor Union and any other major H/E contender for our cars right now? And is there still a H/E with the Spearco core?
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Old Apr 29, 2010 | 02:20 AM
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Can any of you share your opinions of the PLM vs. the Fluid Motor Union and any other major H/E contender for our cars right now? And is there still a H/E with the Spearco core?
i believe when i purchased my HE from James @ ACGSD he told me it was a spearco.
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