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Old 05-10-2010, 12:13 PM
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E55 vs 2010 GT500

My friend recently got a 2010 GT500 and we went from a 40 mph roll. He got the hit but it was real close. both cars had 1/4 tank. we did 3 runs, same results. 2010: 160lbs, my passenger 160lbs. E55: 190lbs, 105lb passenger. Its a really close race, we also went from 30 thinking my ps2's would hook but they didnt, that vid will be up soon. my car is bone stock.



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Originally Posted by Infiniti
My friend recently got a 2010 GT500 and we went from a 40 mph roll. He got the hit but it was real close. both cars had 1/4 tank. we did 3 runs, same results. 2010: 160lbs, my passenger 160lbs. E55: 190lbs, 105lb passenger. Its a really close race, we also went from 30 thinking my ps2's would hook but they didnt, that vid will be up soon. my car is bone stock.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29MuVEptRl8
The Mustang GT is equivalent peformance wise to the M3 and now this. Ford is really stepping it up. I'm just waiting for all of the posts asking if you have an air leak, engine overheating, bad intercooler, blah blah blah...Typical excuses.
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what? mustang gt runs 14's. my friend's gt500 can barely stay next to my slow c55 from a dead stop because there is no traction in that tank of his.

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The Mustang GT is equivalent peformance wise to the M3 and now this. Ford is really stepping it up. I'm just waiting for all of the posts asking if you have an air leak, engine overheating, bad intercooler, blah blah blah...Typical excuses.
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The Mustang GT is equivalent peformance wise to the M3 and now this. Ford is really stepping it up. I'm just waiting for all of the posts asking if you have an air leak, engine overheating, bad intercooler, blah blah blah...Typical excuses.
Umm Mustang GT is definitely not the same as a GT500.
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Hopefully he is comparing a GT to the E46 M3 and if not......
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Sounds about right, a new GT500 is 3900lbs and 540hp/510tq. Both cars have severe traction issues but from a roll you did well to stay up.
Of course beyond the nice sheet metal is a typical Ford interior, but straight line they move pretty good and take to mods well.

Sounds like you car is running very well, now go get a Stage 1 from a reputable vendor before he gets his.
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E55 2006 / CLS55 / S450 / Jag XKR2011
Ford Shelby GT500 2010:
Displacement cu in (cc):5.4 litersPower bhp (kW) at RPM:540 bhp at 6200 rpmTorque lb-ft (Nm) at RPM:480 lb-ft. @ 4500 rpmRedline at RPM:6250 rpm

V8 Supercharge engine so about the same as E55
they are fast and mod friendly and cheap to mod...
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I just saw the vid on SVTPERFORMANCE....he has it over there also
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Always makes me smile. Ford and the others are finally catching up on a Benz design literally created and developed 2001-2002.

Whad it take um......8-9 years.

Great vid.

Stang sounded great.
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Very close results..... so was his car also bone stock or was it tuned?

Both cars seem to have very close specs so I guess the results are to be expected. Good video
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Thanks for all replies. the GT is actually a really nice car and the tranny is smooth as silk. My car is bone stock that traps 115/116. the gt is stock.

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I have seen some bad GT500's, hell.. there are a few in the 9's with TT kits. Deadly.
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Nice vid. Send him my way if he wants to get punked by a BMW "GT"
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Originally Posted by Jakpro1
Always makes me smile. Ford and the others are finally catching up on a Benz design literally created and developed 2001-2002.

Whad it take um......8-9 years.

Great vid.

Stang sounded great.
+1
Ford is starting to put out some pretty decent cars. The 03 Cobra was a barnburner as well. The interior will never match that of the BMW or MB but I am not real sure they are going for that. The only problem I have with the Americans is they ***** their cars out as rentals and fleet cars. The new SHO looks real nice as well. The problem is, after a year of seeing a million rentals, when you see a SHO it will just look like another rental.
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Originally Posted by emoving
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Ford is starting to put out some pretty decent cars. The 03 Cobra was a barnburner as well. The interior will never match that of the BMW or MB but I am not real sure they are going for that. The only problem I have with the Americans is they ***** their cars out as rentals and fleet cars. The new SHO looks real nice as well. The problem is, after a year of seeing a million rentals, when you see a SHO it will just look like another rental.
E: Sorry to break it to you, but my last 5 rentals from Hertz, have been the 212 E350, at first they only had C300's in the fleet, but they added the E class, and I hear there are plans to add the S class to high volume locations.
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E: Sorry to break it to you, but my last 5 rentals from Hertz, have been the 212 E350, at first they only had C300's in the fleet, but they added the E class, and I hear there are plans to add the S class to high volume locations.
My Ford Fusion was in the shop 11 times in 2 years. On one occassion they gave me a low mileage Mustang convertible which broke (fuel sending unit), then they put me into a Expedition which also broke within a week, then they put me in a Escape which I absolutely hated-noise and rattles everywhere, to which after some screaming they put me in a new Altima which had no issues from there on.

So if you can get a nice rental such as a Benz, go for it.
I could only go through Enterprise though they did offer a hi-end rental-Jaguar.

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Nice to see the E55 staying with a big bad mustang. Mustangs are everywhere around here! They sound so awesome sometimes.
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The 2010s have the Ford GT engine and tune, right?? 550bhp, they're heavy but a great value perf buy for enthusiasts rather than snobs...

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Originally Posted by Jakpro1
Always makes me smile. Ford and the others are finally catching up on a Benz design literally created and developed 2001-2002.

Whad it take um......8-9 years.

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Benz didn't create a darn thing...

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E55 2006 / CLS55 / S450 / Jag XKR2011
Which one is heavier ? I think E55 weight more than Mustang.
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The 2011s are the ones to really watch out for. The 2011 Mustang GT brings back the 5.0L N/A V8 with 412hp and 390lbs-ft torque. It is running around 3,650lbs. The 2001 GT500 is getting a minor bump up to 550hp...but the main attraction is the use of an aluminum block in place of the iron one. Just the change in block lightens the front end 102lbs. The 2011 GT500 overall weighs 120+lbs lighter than the 2010. So figure it will be around 3,800lbs. The 2010 GT500s with a rated 540hp have dynoed (bone stock with 91 octane) 510+rwhp on a Dynojet. It is probably best to race them from a dig, as they are very difficult to launch. However, if the right driver is at the helm, you will need mods to leave them behind.

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Originally Posted by emoving
Hopefully he is comparing a GT to the E46 M3 and if not......
E46 M3 would need F/I to keep up with a '11 GT.

2011-GT
Engine: Tune, Exhaust, Intake
Suspension: Panhard bar, upper and lower control arms
Tires: slicks and skinnies.

Good for 11.8 in the quarter.

E92 M3 cant even match that.
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I like the color and stripe delete on this one. The only other option I would get is the glass roof. The SVT performance package is a great deal: wheels, 3.73 gears, suspension and spoiler).

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sports car that is lighter and more power and newer.... stays even with a used 4 door sedan.. i'll take that anyday.

GT500 are great cars.. but the 2011 Gt500 should be better. better engine, cooling and handling. Its basically the old Forg GT engine.
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Originally Posted by TMC M5
The 2011 Mustang GT brings back the 5.0L N/A V8 with 412hp and 390lbs-ft torque.
Tom
Well your power ratings are correct, but it is in NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM the old 5.0 Windsor block.. They are not even made out of the same metal, have the same amount of cams, bearing journals, etc, etc.

Do a little home work and you will understand what I am talking about my friend.

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