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Old May 26, 2010 | 12:40 AM
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What would it take to swap a 55k engine into a CLK BS?
Other than $$$ what would it take and is it possible?
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Old May 26, 2010 | 01:03 AM
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im sure it would fit since the na 55 engines were in the regular amg ones before.
you would need the tranny and ecu as well though.

a nicely modded 55k in that body would fly!
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Old May 26, 2010 | 01:32 AM
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you would get a CLK DTM... Kind of. The CLK DTM has a 55k motor in it. Obviously minus all the other things the CLK DTM has... Or hasn't for that matter. You know what I mean.
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for all the money it would take to put the 55k motor in the CLK BS, would it not be just cheaper and easier to mod the 63 to have just as moch power?
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Old May 26, 2010 | 09:35 AM
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Tranny, ECU, TCU, Engine. It should work out just fine. Ask me how I know...well I don't know the technical aspect, but I am familiar with what it entails since I am doing a similar swap.
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Old May 26, 2010 | 09:52 AM
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for all the money it would take to put the 55k motor in the CLK BS, would it not be just cheaper and easier to mod the 63 to have just as moch power?
I hear what you are saying but that's not what I'm talking about. We all know that hp potential of our engines and of course we all know the crazy amount of torque that our engines can produce, now imagine that in a car that has better aero,better brakes, superior suspension and some 300-400lbs lighter. Oh and can you imagine the SC whine coming from under the hood You could also run a larger HE and two smaller HE's one on the left and the other on the right due to the larger openings up front.

what do you think?
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Originally Posted by Hammer Down
I hear what you are saying but that's not what I'm talking about. We all know that hp potential of our engines and of course we all know the crazy amount of torque that our engines can produce, now imagine that in a car that has better aero,better brakes, superior suspension and some 300-400lbs lighter. Oh and can you imagine the SC whine coming from under the hood You could also run a larger HE and two smaller HE's one on the left and the other on the right due to the larger openings up front.

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Here's what i think. Why even swap out a 55k engine? I mean if $$$$ isn't so much of an issue then just bring it to the boyz at UR! Those guys have proven their strenght at the Texas mile breaking records. And that avatar of yours should be flocking nonstop.
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How about one of the F1 pace cars from back in the day? Shwing!
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How about one of the F1 pace cars from back in the day? Shwing!
I don't know but was the F1 CLK pace car some 5-7 years ago SC?
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You could also run a larger HE and two smaller HE's one on the left and the other on the right due to the larger openings up front.

what do you think?
Dude, that's just too many HEs. Your best solution would be to gut the stock intercooler and build custom SLR type top mounted coolers and call it a day.
Or better yet, twin turbo the 63!
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... now imagine that in a car that has better aero,better brakes, superior suspension and some 300-400lbs lighter. ....
What car are you imagining?
The Black Series weighs 3,948!
211 E55 is 4,087.
Wish I had better news.

And I bet the 55 engine is heavier than the 63.
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Originally Posted by Hammer Down
I don't know but was the F1 CLK pace car some 5-7 years ago SC?
You're right, but even at its 367hp it was still a beast and a hell of a track car. Either way you could easily pick up a CLK55 and swap in a 55k and ecu, that shouldn't be too difficult.
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Originally Posted by 99DirtybirdWS6
You're right, but even at its 367hp it was still a beast and a hell of a track car. Either way you could easily pick up a CLK55 and swap in a 55k and ecu, that shouldn't be too difficult.
Funny that you say that because I just googled the F1 safety cars of the past and sure enough it was a CLK55 back in 2003 and I imagine the mounts could be the same and the trans should line up with the driveshaft with no problems and besides Ahmad did it with the 208 version so why not the 209? CLK 55's are about 60k less that the BS and I'm sure the suspension and brakes could be upgraded.

I gonna suggest this to my son. So the CLK 55's had a production run from 2003-2006?
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You're right, but even at its 367hp it was still a beast and a hell of a track car. Either way you could easily pick up a CLK55 and swap in a 55k and ecu, that shouldn't be too difficult.
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The easiest swap would have to be going from a 55 to a 55k. Now put a modded 55K into an SLK55 and that would be one mean little beast!
These engine swaps are crazy!
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Now put a modded 55K into an SLK55 and that would be one mean little beast!
These engine swaps are crazy!
Jesse did that (well actually the the kleemann SC setup) SLK55R and it couldn't hook up but of course we are talking about hooking up at Sac.......
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Jesse did that (well actually the the kleemann SC setup) SLK55R and it couldn't hook up but of course we are talking about hooking up at Sac.......
Actually I think he had the RennTech supercharger.

Hammer, if you're going to stuff a more powerful engine into the CLK Black Series, then you might as well stuff the V12 twin turbo if it'll fit Just go all out - full power
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Jesse did that (well actually the the kleemann SC setup) SLK55R and it couldn't hook up but of course we are talking about hooking up at Sac.......
Yeah there's a few SLK55 guys that did that S/C upgrade and I believe most can't get traction. Doing the swap with a 55K would just be worse since it has better flowing heads and when modded it can produce more power than a supercharged 55. You could call it the first SLK55K!


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Actually I think he had the RennTech supercharger.

Hammer, if you're going to stuff a more powerful engine into the CLK Black Series, then you might as well stuff the V12 twin turbo if it'll fit Just go all out - full power
Yes, he had the RennTech supercharger.

That's how the CLK Black Series should have came, stuffed with the V12 twin turbo 65! Now that would be insane!
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Friggin Benz ECU's. Bout the only thing that I could see holding all this up.

No updates on V12Godspeeds engine swap but I imagine it's just the final battle of the man vs ECU at this point. The motor is sitting right in the car....just gotta be frustrating sometimes.
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Friggin Benz ECU's. Bout the only thing that I could see holding all this up.

No updates on V12Godspeeds engine swap but I imagine it's just the final battle of the man vs ECU at this point. The motor is sitting right in the car....just gotta be frustrating sometimes.
ECU is always an obstacle one way or another
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MOTEC !!!!! I agree with the previous post - if your gonna do it, strap a V12 in there...But, that would most likely be very heavy and act like a boat anchor and ruin the handleing
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Friggin Benz ECU's. Bout the only thing that I could see holding all this up.

No updates on V12Godspeeds engine swap but I imagine it's just the final battle of the man vs ECU at this point. The motor is sitting right in the car....just gotta be frustrating sometimes.
We have had many struggles with the V12 but hopefully next week I should have better updates for you guys. Once Marcin (speedriven) gives me some more updates you guys will definitely know. We had to order the complete bottom end in terms of the lubricating system of an SL600 since the oil pump and pans along with drainage and tubes had to be relocated. I will be updating my Thread soon...
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We have had many struggles with the V12 but hopefully next week I should have better updates for you guys. Once Marcin (speedriven) gives me some more updates you guys will definitely know. We had to order the complete bottom end in terms of the lubricating system of an SL600 since the oil pump and pans along with drainage and tubes had to be relocated. I will be updating my Thread soon...
God I seriously can't wait
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I agree with LZH, exchanging the V8 for a V12 would destroy the handling characteristics.......at least on a road course for which it was built for. How about that: Get a transaxle with it's MBZ 7.3 L V12 from a Pagani Zonda, relocate Battery and fuel tank to the front and make it a mid-engined lay out? If you are willing to butcher a CLK BS, might as well go all the way
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