Auto BILD Germany tests AMG's new V8TT ... HOLY CRAP !!!
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Auto BILD Germany tests AMG's new V8TT ... HOLY CRAP !!!
I know this is slighly OT but i just had to share this with you guys. Auto BILD Sportcars (quite renowed in our part of the world) has done a review of the new S63 with the performance package option (571ps and 900nm of torque for us europeans 
) and the figures are shockingly good.Here is a link to the report from the magazine, but unfortunately most of the test date (such as 0-200km/h, stopping distances, etc) can only be found in the printed magazine. Nevertheless here is something exciting for you
http://www.autobild.de/artikel/merce...0_1135345.html
0-200km/h (0-124mph)
2010 SL65 BLACK: 10.86
2011 S63PP: 13.3
2010 S65: 13.4
2010 C63PP: 13.8
2009 C63: 14.5
2008 CLS63: 15.0
2006 CLS55: 15.2
2010 S63: 16.3
OMG... once this engine finds its way in lighter CARS
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oh BTW here is some food for thought.
2011 S63 571ps and 2120kg so thats = 270ps per tonne
2010 S65 612ps and 2275kg so thats = 269ps per tonne
Couple that with the 7 speed MCT gearbox and something tells me
that extra 100000$ for the S65 (at least here) is really not that well spent
2011 S63 571ps and 2120kg so thats = 270ps per tonne
2010 S65 612ps and 2275kg so thats = 269ps per tonne
Couple that with the 7 speed MCT gearbox and something tells me
that extra 100000$ for the S65 (at least here) is really not that well spent
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I think they will have to do something with the S65 in the near future in order to keep it competitive with the S63, since the new engine really brings the performance much closer now, and the price difference can't be justified as much.
But when they put this engine in the lighter cars, oh my! Pretty amazing how those numbers above show the new S63 being faster than all of those previous AMG's that used to be faster than it 0-124mph..so I can only imagine what gains will be made in the smaller cars.
But when they put this engine in the lighter cars, oh my! Pretty amazing how those numbers above show the new S63 being faster than all of those previous AMG's that used to be faster than it 0-124mph..so I can only imagine what gains will be made in the smaller cars.
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oh BTW here is some food for thought.
2011 S63 571ps and 2120kg so thats = 270ps per tonne
2010 S65 612ps and 2275kg so thats = 269ps per tonne
Couple that with the 7 speed MCT gearbox and something tells me
that extra 100000$ for the S65 (at least here) is really not that well spent
2011 S63 571ps and 2120kg so thats = 270ps per tonne
2010 S65 612ps and 2275kg so thats = 269ps per tonne
Couple that with the 7 speed MCT gearbox and something tells me
that extra 100000$ for the S65 (at least here) is really not that well spent
2011 S65 has 620hp (272hp per tonne).
The S63 will always handle better then V12 though and with it's superior transmission swayed me to order one.
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Still i wouldnt want to be a guinea pig for the new engine/tranny combo. Maybe next year with the new cls.
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absolutely... only thing that worries me a bit is how will the 7g MCT transmission cope with all that torque. I mean it took them forever to bring out a 7 speed for the big engines so it probably should be ok, and besides the MCT transmission has no conventional torque converter and maybe jurkier around town, not what you would want in your S-class Limo,right?
Still i wouldnt want to be a guinea pig for the new engine/tranny combo. Maybe next year with the new cls.
Still i wouldnt want to be a guinea pig for the new engine/tranny combo. Maybe next year with the new cls.
As far as smoothness of the MCT I am a bit concerned,I don't like it in my current "daily" Sl63 and I hope they do something about it in S63.
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What you guys think the 1/4 mile will be in the lighter E Class?
+1 Also on the v12biturbo. They need to either lower the price or the 65's or release a more explosive motor to justify the price difference with the new v8biturbo.
+1 Also on the v12biturbo. They need to either lower the price or the 65's or release a more explosive motor to justify the price difference with the new v8biturbo.
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Mid to high 11s on street tires. For the S65, I'm thinking somewhere in the neighborhood of 700hp should do the trick.
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Actually they already ARE doing something to the S65: they are dropping it altogether. The engine is being slowly phased out. They already stopped it in the SL line-up as they announced the 2011 model year SL65 will be the last 65 in that class, which means no SL65 for 2012. I'm guessing the CL65 and S65 will soon follow.
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Actually they already ARE doing something to the S65: they are dropping it altogether. The engine is being slowly phased out. They already stopped it in the SL line-up as they announced the 2011 SL65 will be the last 65 in that class. I'm guessing the CL65 and S65 will soon follow.
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It'd be super cool, however, to see a 6.2 twin turbo.
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A great example are the 65 models: some of the current S65s are actually selling for under $90k (original MSRP was $200k). And the older generation S65 are down to high $30ks. I bet after 1 to 2 years, a nicely equipped $100k E63 twin turbo will be down to the $60k range, and a couple of years after that they'll hit the $40k range, and so forth 
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Actually they already ARE doing something to the S65: they are dropping it altogether. The engine is being slowly phased out. They already stopped it in the SL line-up as they announced the 2011 model year SL65 will be the last 65 in that class, which means no SL65 for 2012. I'm guessing the CL65 and S65 will soon follow.
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I hope that they have some type of nice upgrade or replacement for the 65 line..I always liked those, even if the 55 or 63's produced more realistic and attainable performance both price, and traction wise - it's kind of nice to have something huge and exotic like the twin-turbo V12 engines around, so I hope they do something with it!
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