W211 AMG Discuss the W211 AMG's such as the E55 and the E63

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Old Aug 31, 2010 | 10:28 PM
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Now my question is, how much better do 19s ride with a 35 series tire?

The 20s with 245/35/20s and 285/25/20s setup rode and handled like garbage. It felt like a land yacht compared to the stockers.

I would prefer a bit bigger than 18s, but if it's going to be remotely close to the feel of the 20s, I am going to shy away. My area doesn't have the best roads, at all.

Also, How much sturdier are monoblocks opposed to 3 piece?

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Old Aug 31, 2010 | 11:08 PM
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I got 19" forgestars and they are just as good as the stock 18's as far as ride, comfort, and putting the power down.
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Old Aug 31, 2010 | 11:18 PM
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19's are probably the perfect compromise between performance (weight), looks, and ride quality...Ride quality goes down a little depending on tires, but not much...They're a little more susceptible to pothole damage, but that might be due more to performance lightweight forged wheels...Beats me on the monoblocks vs. 3 piece...Mine are 1 piece, but BBS is known to be a bit softer...They run out in spec and road force balance fine, but they are all a little bent up...The lighter the wheel, the easier to bend usually...Not always, but the weights gotta come out of somewhere...
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Old Aug 31, 2010 | 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by citylightva
19's are probably the perfect compromise between performance (weight), looks, and ride quality...Ride quality goes down a little depending on tires, but not much...They're a little more susceptible to pothole damage, but that might be due more to performance lightweight forged wheels...Beats me on the monoblocks vs. 3 piece...Mine are 1 piece, but BBS is known to be a bit softer...They run out in spec and road force balance fine, but they are all a little bent up...The lighter the wheel, the easier to bend usually...Not always, but the weights gotta come out of somewhere...
Thanks! I'm thinking about selling my 20" DPE S10s(once they're back to "like new condition"(replaced barrel, etc), and pick up some 19" HRE P40s. Are the handling characteristics really that much different with 19s than on the stockers? I currently have the Continentals on the car(came on the car at purchase). I plan on changing to Nitto Invos next summer.
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Old Sep 1, 2010 | 12:08 AM
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yeah - i loved 19's on my E39 M5 -- but not crazy about the tire prices
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Old Sep 1, 2010 | 12:23 AM
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Old Sep 1, 2010 | 12:26 AM
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Old Sep 1, 2010 | 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by guysandiego
yeah - i loved 19's on my E39 M5 -- but not crazy about the tire prices
Yeah, 19s are getting cheaper now that more cars are coming off the lot with them. Used to deter me, but that is no longer the case.

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Even with 19's, you may want to look into a camber kit. The inner barrel is significantly more prone to "Taco Syndrome" when there is neg camber. Front and back would benifit, and then when you do hit a pothole, the whole tire can absorb the hit as opposed to just the inside barrel. Based on that bend you have, a 19 would have probably been damaged. Thats a guess.

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Old Sep 1, 2010 | 06:22 AM
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19"s are the way to go. Difference in ride quality is definitely noticeable. P40s will be sick bro!!
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Originally Posted by Bramage
Even with 19's, you may want to look into a camber kit. The inner barrel is significantly more prone to "Taco Syndrome" when there is neg camber. Front and back would benifit, and then when you do hit a pothole, the whole tire can absorb the hit as opposed to just the inside barrel. Based on that bend you have, a 19 would have probably been damaged. Thats a guess.

Love the plate.. and I also love the blacked out badging...
Excellent information, Bramage! Thanks for the compliments as well.

Originally Posted by 930chas
19"s are the way to go. Difference in ride quality is definitely noticeable. P40s will be sick bro!!
Sounds like 19s, it is then. Yeah, regardless of how much they're played out, there is a reason they're played. They work.
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Old Sep 1, 2010 | 10:19 AM
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I ride on 19" Monoblock VIs with Vred tires, staggered. It's very quiet on any kind of pavement but noticeably louder than 18s when driving over rough patches and rumble strips.
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Old Sep 1, 2010 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by cahiil55k
I ride on 19" Monoblock VIs with Vred tires, staggered. It's very quiet on any kind of pavement but noticeably louder than 18s when driving over rough patches and rumble strips.
Not too concerned about noise, as much as I am having to dodge potholes(of all sizes) to keep from jarring my teeth out.

Care to share pics and details of your setup?

This goes for anyone else with 19s. I would love to see how much different they look, than 20s.

Thanks again for the help!
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Old Sep 1, 2010 | 11:08 AM
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19"s are the way to go. Difference in ride quality is definitely noticeable. P40s will be sick bro!!
^^^^ EXACTLY WHAT HE SAID

Charcoal P40's on your ride + sick pics = new underpants
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Old Sep 1, 2010 | 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by tgoss
^^^^ EXACTLY WHAT HE SAID

Charcoal P40's on your ride + sick pics = new underpants
Thanks! I think they will look pretty good, too.
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Old Sep 1, 2010 | 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by vtecsti
Not too concerned about noise, as much as I am having to dodge potholes(of all sizes) to keep from jarring my teeth out.

Care to share pics and details of your setup?

This goes for anyone else with 19s. I would love to see how much different they look, than 20s.

Thanks again for the help!
Here you go, not the clearest or newest pics though. I had PS2s when these were taken.
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Originally Posted by cahiil55k
Here you go, not the clearest or newest pics though. I had PS2s when these were taken.
Nice! Looks good. My car is already lowered, so they will definitely look great in the fender. Will run 285/35/19s in the back, if they will fit.
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If you're getting Monoblock VIs, 285's will fit the rear but depending on the tire you choose the side wall might be rounded and bulge out a little, which is ok if that's the look you want. The rims are intended for use with 275's.

Edit: My car is not lowered with SDS or by any other means, so I'd imagine your car will look lower with 19's.
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Originally Posted by cahiil55k
If you're getting Monoblock VIs, 285's will fit the rear but depending on the tire you choose the side wall might be rounded and bulge out a little, which is ok if that's the look you want. The rims are intended for use with 275's.

Edit: My car is not lowered with SDS or by any other means, so I'd imagine your car will look lower with 19's.
Thanks for the info, again! Going with matte HRE P40s. 19x8 in the front and 19x10 in the rear. Nitto Invos all the way around, lowered as is via STAR.

Unfortunately I've been out of work for a few weeks, on medical leave, without pay. No paychecks coming in, but plenty of Dr. bills going out. Not to mention UPS lost my Panerai 112 I sent to service.

Will probably end up searching and search for the perfect P40s on the pre-owned market.
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