jrcart

Mo, I am not questioning his time, I never once questioned the 11.1 ET, what I am questioning is the state of tune and mods on his car. I want nothing more than to belive that his car has only a tune and headers but my knowledge, experience with these motors, common sense and physics tell me I need to question it.

I give props to all the guys running out there, they are laying down some AMAZING times and they keep on bumping the 55's down the ALL time quickest list in the process which as you know tickles me to death to see.

mthis

Driving back rite now but I'll give u 20k if u find more mods in my engine other then tune/header/filters in return u give me 20k plus labor to take motor apart.

blackbenzz

I know Mike and Hagi well enough to not doubt their numbers. No doubt it is a mind boggling accomplishment but that just deserves even more props! They didn't run their mouths, just went out and worked hard and let the cars do all the talking. I have the utmost respect for both these guys! Well done!!! I wish I could have been there to witness it and run with you guys. To be honest I never thought a 63 was going to run 10s NA. AMAZING accomplishment.

MB_Forever

I'm sorry but I respectfully disagree with your logic here Jim. Just because you couldn't do it does not mean it can not be done. For example, except for a year ago, the quickest/fastest E55 (4300 lb car) was running 11.3 or higher and it remained like that for almost 7 years. And it wasn't until Bassn_07 came into the equation and ran 10.77 that the game changed. He did it with only 550 rwhp. So 11.19 is definitely possible with less power. Before that, the E55 was running all over the country at every track imaginable and never broke the record

Your car is different than the C63.... you have different headers, different tune, different mods, and you said in the past that your suspension was geared towards road course NOT drag racing. Unless you actually tried their same headers and mods and could not run it, it would not be very easy to compare your car to theirs. But out of curiosity what exactly do you think they have done to their C63s today? By the way, they all opened up their hoods to cool down and many people looked at their engine bays. Do you think they added a supercharger? Cams? NOS? The only cams installed were on Keith's car and as of now it is not running yet. They are still working out the new software file.

In your opinion, what do you think happened out there today for these cars to hit 600 rwhp?

dodger63

I didn't call you names.. You said you would be at Mir I went you never showed? I find the thread later and post it here!! You did your famous let's bet $10,000 trick or whatever!! And still never showed this is no way an invitation for a race or anything like that I'm not talking ***** either I'm doing my thing and that's that you enjoy your car I'll enjoy mine.. Goodluck..

jrcart

Ok, so let me get this straight, you claim your C63 is making 425rwhp on an MHP V3 tune only and you run 11.64, however mythis can run an 11.1 on the same tune plus headers? Here's a news flash for you, there's not set of headers in the world is going to make an 11.6 car an 11.1 car...

So can you see where I am coming from on this one? Thanks for the ammo.

blackbenzz

Peak hp dyno numbers mean nothing! That timeslip is worth a bajillion times more than a dyno sheet IMHO

MB_Forever

Actually, the same day that Religh63 ran 11.6, I think Haji ran 11.38 (same track, same day, same conditions). So the headers actually made a difference of 0.22 seconds.

Guys, lets not ruin this thread for everybody

Jim, if you want, you can join them at ATCO or MIR next week and check their cars inside out and decide for yourself

dodger63

Are you going to get more jelous when I run better? I have a few not lightning parts comming and if we catch the right day there's room in this car for better times.. If you think I'm spraying you are out of your mind!! Send anyone you want to the track right now with your resources it wouldn't be a problem to call any random garage in the area to come inspect my car I'll even wait... If not drop it!

dodger63

I like my idea send a tech here now!! I'll wait!!

jrcart

My initial post was not even directed towards you, you stuck your nose in where it did not belong. As for me not showing up to MIR you're full of crap, if I say I'm going to show up at an event I show up, I've been to more events in every corner of this country that you could ever dream of. I did events on the east coast and then the west coast on back to back weekends. So go dig up the thread where I promised I would be at MIR and I'll eat some crow.

jrcart

Ahmad, to be fair, you were one of the first guys to call BS when I posted up a NA 11.3 less than 2 years ago, I recall very clearly you acusing me of having a sneaky pete bottle hidden in my car somewhere, do you recall that conversation or do I need to go thread hunting?

dodger63

I wiling friend then what you apologize? Are u sending a tech??

Raleighc63

I don't know you or your background but obviously your understanding of the laws of physics is incorrect!

Maybe Hagi and Mike have specials C63's that are from planet Crypton which allow them to warp the laws of physics!

Or maybe you need some more practice at the track.

Or maybe you are just jealous!

Don't hate just because a c63 is faster than your CKL 63BLK series...

MB_Forever

That's what I'm saying Jim.... you got more attacks/hates/doubts and generally just more sh*t talking about your car/runs from so many people on this forum (at least more than I recall anyone getting) for running your times. They said no way a 63 can run that quick naturally aspirated with basically headers/tune and light-weight components. They said you were spraying or have done some type of "secret mod" or whatever. Fun times actually when I look back on it

But anyways, that's why I was surprised when you posted your comment here with the same type of doubt that they've done to you.... that they must've done some type of "other mods" that we don't know about and nobody happen to notice them at the track.

MB_Forever

Okay fellas..... enough with all the smack talking. Lets see some videos

skratch77

Awesome times im sooo thinking on going to atco this sat.its a 6 hour drive but im making 30 more whp then when I ran 11.4.

Can you post up the 60 fts?

I know my car has a low 11 in her but just needs the right track and prep.

propain

Its the DA dude. -1300 or so. It corrects to a 11.1


Gotta love the cool winter air. Couldn't have asked for a better day. Yesterday was like 60F at ATCO. Congrats again guys!

Benz-O-Rama

Congrats Mike and Hagi! You guys are turning some VERY impressive ETs and MPH!

Did either of you perform the **cough cough...driver mod.... cough cough** for these runs?

And I know you know what I'm talking about.

mthis

TO JRcart.



all my mods rite here.


MHP tune
MHP headers
pipercross foam filter

Quaife LSD
Nitto 555R's 285/35/18


i said it before and now again.

IF you can find something more in my engine other then ecu/headers/filter ill pay you 20K,

if you dont find shty you pay me 20k and labor to take motor apart.

BTW you say you have ran 10's where is your slips or videos of you doing this,

RStevens63

I think if we look at the longterm track results posted by mthis and dodger we can see this is not a one time anomoly.

Back on 10/20/10 at MIR in -300 to +200' DA dodger ran a best ET of 11.23 and best trap of 125.66 with several other 11.3@124.5+ runs.

mthis at the same event went 11.38.

Then on 11/22/10 at ATCO with DA in the -200 to +300' range dodger ran 17 passes, none slower than 11.38 with a best of 11.21 with traps ranging from 124-125.5mph. mthis ran another 11.38@123.5mph.

Today in -1500' (approximately I haven't checked myself just going off what was posted in the other thread) DA they ran 10.99 and 11.19 with traps in the 125-127 range.

So again when looking at the big picture today was literally the first day they had their cars in great air, and the gains are exactly on par with what the changes in DA show.

Again Great job to everyone today!

dodger63

Nope imagine we had 100# girls! That's another .10 off

mthis

nah man no girls today. i wish i would of been in 10's my self lol. tnx bro

weather was great we were fully preped cooled down bigtime before running but still best passes came hotlapping.

V12Godspeed

Way to go Luis!!! Congrats to all the 63 guys as well. Great day for the track!

DAGREEKNYC

Ill be there this saturday too !!!!!