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Old 01-09-2011, 07:16 PM
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I thought the C63 thread was crazy on this subject....
Old 01-09-2011, 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by RStevens63
I know that comment wasn't directed at me, and the fact you have to deflect and resort to condescending comments like that says something in and of itself.



Like it or not drag racing (the entire length of the track) is 98% about the launch. Don't hook out of the hole expect your 1/8th and 1/4 mile Trap splits to suck as well.

How exactly do you know what the M156 is and isn't capable of, dodger barely has enough mods to scratch the surface of this engine's potential. The next few months should be fun for you, keep watching.



Just goes to show you can have the most mods and still not run the quickest or fastest. Drag racing has never been about who's got the most mod money, it's about skill, persistence and most importantly dedication.

So to wrap this up:

1) You weren't there, 50+ members with credibility attended and saw the passes unfold all day long. Previous to this at other track rentals there were similar amounts of people doing the same thing.

2) You're calling respected members, those that have accomplished far more than you for the greater good, liars.

3) You're full of **** for even stating the nitrous, watch, COMMAND screen comment. $50K if you can do that, cash. There's your motivation, now prove me wrong.

I think it's time for you to exit the congratulatory thread and rethink your narrow minded thought process.
Wrong shows how much you know about 1/4 Mile racing.

If he botched his 60' footer his 1/4 Mile Trap would have been even higher hahah!

How much RWHP is Dodger Making?

To Wrap WHAT UP?
You gave no facts or data to prove how it's possible.
There's a missing 100-150 HP in the Equation.

You telling me that you had people look and other baloney that is irrelevant and talking about your monopoly play money.

Keeping changing subjects and ignoring the psychics.

Why Do I even bother no one will admit to anything.
Old 01-09-2011, 08:45 PM
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Look in all honesty your are wrong.. The more you talk the worse it is come inspect then you will look like the biggest jack--- on here. Physics brother what's done id done.. You have no clue about dragracing really trust me!!
I'll pay for your flight and hotel to come and watch my car run free vaca sounds good to me. In return you apologize for calling me I liar? Fair?

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Wrong shows how much you know about 1/4 Mile racing.

If he botched his 60' footer his 1/4 Mile Trap would have been even higher hahah!

How much RWHP is Dodger Making?

To Wrap WHAT UP?
You gave no facts or data to prove how it's possible.
There's a missing 100-150 HP in the Equation.

You telling me that you had people look and other baloney that is irrelevant and talking about your monopoly play money.

Keeping changing subjects and ignoring the psychics.

Why Do I even bother no one will admit to anything.
Old 01-09-2011, 09:08 PM
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Trust me guys, if I wasn't there to see it, I'd question that back 1/2 MPH too.

it's known that the C63 platform, on NOS, greatly reduces tranny life. I think Dads has
gone through 1 stock and 1 built transmission, on NOS. I don't think he's been able to make many passes before they fail. Mike made no less than 20 passes and probably closer to 30. I don't know how many runs were 130+, but it bet it was over
10. Not only that, but he hot laps the hell out of that car. To the trained ear, and I'd like to think I have one of those considering where I spent my childhood, you can tell when someone hits the button. I never heard anything that sounded like that. Furthermore, i didn't see any nozzles, selenoids, or purge valves, not that I was really looking for them. He also never purged, ever. It's not like he was in some secluded place in the pits, purged, and then hurried to the line. There were 7 cars there, all within peeing distance from each other.

Also, there were 4 records set:

Quickest SL600
Quickest/Fastest C63
Quickest stock ZR-1
and the nutty Z06 set a record too, just not sure which

Loco also cut his best 60' ever.

Can I be 100% certain he didn't spray? Nope. But I would say I'm very certain he didn't.

Again, picking up 31mph on the back half is an eye opener. But then again, I never thought I'd see 125mph with my current setup.

I believe the stars were aligned as all racers there saw huge improvements. Maybe MIR bought SacTowns old timing gear.

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Old 01-09-2011, 10:07 PM
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I have 31 slips! All monster slips for this platform. Hot lapping 4-6 times..

Quick question to people who no cause I have no idea?
How long does a nos tank last? Is it possible to run 31 times on one tank?




Originally Posted by Benz-O-Rama
Trust me guys, if I wasn't there to see it, I'd question that back 1/2 MPH too.

it's known that the C63 platform, on NOS, greatly reduces tranny life. I think Dads has
gone through 1 stock and 1 built transmission, on NOS. I don't think he's been able to make many passes before they fail. Mike made no less than 20 passes and probably closer to 30. I don't know how many runs were 130+, but it bet it was over
10. Not only that, but he hot laps the hell out of that car. To the trained ear, and I'd like to think I have one of those considering where I spent my childhood, you can tell when someone hits the button. I never heard anything that sounded like that. Furthermore, i didn't see any nozzles, selenoids, or purge valves, not that I was really looking for them. He also never purged, ever. It's not like he was in some secluded place in the pits, purged, and then hurried to the line. There were 7 cars there, all within peeing distance from each other.

Also, there were 4 records set:

Quickest SL600
Quickest/Fastest C63
Quickest stock ZR-1
and the nutty Z06 set a record too, just not sure which

Loco also cut his best 60' ever.

Can I be 100% certain he didn't spray? Nope. But I would say I'm very certain he didn't.

Again, picking up 31mph on the back half is an eye opener. But then again, I never thought I'd see 125mph with my current setup.

I believe the stars were aligned as all racers there saw huge improvements. Maybe MIR bought SacTowns old timing gear.
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Originally Posted by dodger63
I have 31 slips! All monster slips for this platform. Hot lapping 4-6 times..

Quick question to people who no cause I have no idea?
How long does a nos tank last? Is it possible to run 31 times on one tank?

You can get about 10-12 sprays per bottle with a mild shot.
Old 01-09-2011, 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by propain
You can get about 10-12 sprays per bottle with a mild shot.
Really o ok
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Depends on a lot though. Bottle pressure. With the cold temps you guys are running in the pressure goes down unless you can keep the bottle warm. Cooler bottle less sprays.

This is also based on a dry shot. Also Jet size 50-60. Not really sure on wet shots.

I'm not a big NOS guy so that's about all I know..

Definitely don't know how to trigger it using a watch...

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Old 01-10-2011, 01:47 AM
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Wrong shows how much you know about 1/4 Mile racing.

If he botched his 60' footer his 1/4 Mile Trap would have been even higher hahah!
No, this shows exactly how much you know. These cars don't spin on hot DRs at 20psi. Even if he was running street tires, spinning causes early shifting with the 7G as with every other conventional auto The motor pegs the shift point in 1st gear way under it's maximum velocity which causes a bog in 2nd gear and consequently kills the run, trap included. Doh.

How much RWHP is Dodger Making?

To Wrap WHAT UP?
You gave no facts or data to prove how it's possible.
There's a missing 100-150 HP in the Equation.
I would guess 500-510rw SAE, in that air possibly 530rwhp without correction. That's 646HP at the crank with 18% drivetrain loss.

It's about more than peak power, it's about AVG HP and TQ. AVG HP &TQ + Traction + Gearing + Suspension (in his case yes it is adjustable) + Aero + Launch Technique + Track Prep + Track + Weather + dozens and dozens more variables and then we're just beginning to cover the basics of what goes into a single pass.

You telling me that you had people look and other baloney that is irrelevant and talking about your monopoly play money.
Respected board members were there to verify, as were other highly respected racers like Jamie Fuhrman. How you can even begin to call BS from overseas blows my mind.

You offered to build a NOS system initiated via a watch using the COMMAND system, I know it's impossible, that makes you a liar. Irony?

Keeping changing subjects and ignoring the psychics.
I don't believe in psychics (where are the spelling & grammar police now? LOL), if you meant "physics" please show me a formula that takes into account all of the variables listed above. Do not link me to a drag racing simulator ROFL.

Why Do I even bother no one will admit to anything.
Great question: Why? You know nothing.

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Originally Posted by RStevens63

I would guess 500-510rw SAE, in that air possibly 530rwhp without correction. That's 646HP at the crank with 18% drivetrain loss.

It's about more than peak power, it's about AVG HP and TQ. AVG HP &TQ + Traction + Gearing + Suspension (in his case yes it is adjustable) + Aero + Launch Technique + Track Prep + Track + Weather + dozens and dozens more variables and then we're just beginning to cover the basics of what goes into a single pass.
After reading BOR's post..I think he has more mods than that if it's not NOS and he chooses not to post it.

it's about AVG HP and TQ. AVG HP &TQ= Everyone on a C63 has your tune stop acting like its a gift from god.

1) 10.875* 131.460 7.004 100.550 1.615 Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG 2009 Dodger63
2) 10.987* 123.860 7.096 98.800 1.622 Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG MHP on nitrous 2009 Dads C63
3) 11.111* 130.470 7.304 100.900 1.822 Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG MHP on Nitrous 2009 Dads C63

Same Mods nearly and still not close and DAD was spraying. Unless you weight 3200 pounds or you have a muffled turbo charger or SC it's just not happening . Is there any data of his RWHP/RWTQ?

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Is there any data of his RWHP/RWTQ?
Doesn't matter. . . and I think this is what everyone is trying to tell you. . .Numbers on a dyno mean schizer at the track. I believe Alan was dyno'd at 437 RWHP on his E55 when he ran 10's (without NOS).

You really need to stop.
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Originally Posted by Das Geld
After reading BOR's post..I think he has more mods than that if it's not NOS and he chooses not to post it.

it's about AVG HP and TQ. AVG HP &TQ= Everyone on a C63 has your tune stop acting like its a gift from god.

1) 10.875* 131.460 7.004 100.550 1.615 Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG 2009 Dodger63
2) 10.987* 123.860 7.096 98.800 1.622 Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG MHP on nitrous 2009 Dads C63
3) 11.111* 130.470 7.304 100.900 1.822 Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG MHP on Nitrous 2009 Dads C63

Same Mods nearly and still not close and DAD was spraying. Unless you weight 3200 pounds or you have a muffled turbo charger or SC it's just not happening . Is there any data of his RWHP/RWTQ?
My tune? ROFL, now I'm a software guy. ROFL.

Talk to Dads (again you're ignorance is showing through). His converter and trans were slipping badly due to the nitrous torque (as seen in his vids from the track you can hear the converter slipping). He then tore the trans down, rebuilt with upgraded internals, sprayed again and 8 attempts later the same thing, toasted trans due to torque.

Dads runs with nos were never optimal or even close to it, he never even got a chance to dial his progressive controller in during his 2 trips to the strip with NOS.

So again nice try debunking fact, I see there's another post with an offer for you to fly over or have someone represent you to shut your mouth. I highly suggest you reply there or stop posting here.

Dyno numbers are a joke and waste of time, results on NA cars are totally dependant upon the fan setup and how the dyno reads, what info is input, etc.

Anyone worth their salt knows track results are worth 100x what a dyno sheet is. Too bad that's not you.

Goodbye.
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what drag radials work the best, looking for 18 inch set have 03 sl 500 w/kleeman supercharger and best 60 ft on street with g tech is 2.2 no roll out programmed in g tech, using pilot sport 2s now ?
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what drag radials work the best, looking for 18 inch set have 03 sl 500 w/kleeman supercharger and best 60 ft on street with g tech is 2.2 no roll out programmed in g tech, using pilot sport 2s now ?
i use Nitto 555R's 285/35/18 on my stock 8.5 rim

not bad on your 60 foot with g tech they usualy read very high for instance my vbox was reading 2.0 when i got my 1.68 at the track, so your should be around 1.8 but on street that still very impressive.
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Originally Posted by Das Geld
Wrong shows how much you know about 1/4 Mile racing.

If he botched his 60' footer his 1/4 Mile Trap would have been even higher hahah!

How much RWHP is Dodger Making?

To Wrap WHAT UP?
You gave no facts or data to prove how it's possible.
There's a missing 100-150 HP in the Equation.

You telling me that you had people look and other baloney that is irrelevant and talking about your monopoly play money.

Keeping changing subjects and ignoring the psychics.

Why Do I even bother no one will admit to anything.
Maybe Das Geld 2 can carry in where Das Geld left off before he conviently forgot his password.

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