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Old 03-01-2011, 11:30 AM
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Who has the highest dyno numbers these days?

I am at 564 hp and 640 TQ.. Happy to post graph as well but I don`t have near the mods as many of you guys out there these days..

Houston = 3rd largest city and Exotic`s CL55= strongest around.. See dyno numbers below.. Let`s dyno race!
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Dyno numbers mean nothing,you wont break 500 on my dyno and Loco has the fastest e55 on the plannit with 490whp.Its good to do before and after for personal numbers.

I put down 385whp and then 460 modded and ran 11.4 in the 1/4

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Dyno numbers mean nothing unless all the cars are run on the same dyno. All dynos are calibrated differently and can be skewed to show pretty much any number the dyno owner/operator wants.

Temperature and DA also play factors. I believe Mustang Dynos are the most accurate when it comes to real world numbers and even then they can be skewed.
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Originally Posted by skratch77
Dyno numbers mean nothing,you wont break 500 on my dyno and Loco has the fastest e55 on the plannit with 490whp.Its good to do before and after for personal numbers.

I put down 385whp and then 460 modded and ran 11.4 in the 1/4
Angelo Thanks for the compliment but No Way i own the fastest 55 dude BTW that 489whp was on the old engine>>>before exhaust/TB and OE TUNE

But i have been on the dyno's Ahmad -Blackbenz has been in and have had greater numbers than him and ask me if his car is fast

For example on a dynojet we were in the other day, which i believe is the lowest reading dynojet i've seen i put down 507 and i was told Ahmad's put down 448whp then at another dynojet while testing meth which richened my AFR's i put down 535 spinning tires..In the end i learned they are just #S
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Paper bragging rights--- Ill take the faster car on the street which doesnt always carry the highest numbers on paper all day every day.
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Paper bragging rights--- Ill take the faster car on the street which doesnt always carry the highest numbers on paper all day every day.
Yep! A dyno queen usually doesnt have the right suspension setup to put it down on the street
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I'm only running 480 to the wheels according to my last dyno run. My quarter mile time is in my sig. I actually prefer low numbers. The lower the better for me
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We should get a 1/4 list going, and update it, in order of ET
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Off topic: just checked my time slips from last trip to MIR which we had temps in the high 70s and around 700-1000 +DA in which i only had one full pass at almost 129mph, the rest being @ 121mph after letting off close to the trap because of leaning issues. This to me is interesting because i know she had 10s in her under those conditions and thats my next thing to accomplish
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We should get a 1/4 list going, and update it, in order of ET
Agree.. I believe there was one a while ago, but not sure what happened to it..
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Originally Posted by skratch77
Dyno numbers mean nothing,you wont break 500 on my dyno and Loco has the fastest e55 on the plannit with 490whp.Its good to do before and after for personal numbers.

I put down 385whp and then 460 modded and ran 11.4 in the 1/4

I am all about the science and the 1/4 mile / one Mile times are my main barometer (you all know that about me) but I get told all the time that there is a larger group that likes the dyno number game.. They don`t go to the track, they like the showey little details and they THRIVE on the dyno sheet! Even to the point of taking the absolute highest dyno number and TQ spike that can be used for bragging rights only.. Not science but bragging rights.. So, I wanted to hear what is going out there and hear how this other show-boy side likes to compete.. I have been to many shops that build a car for an owner and this owner will never race the car at the track or mile but salivates to get that dyno slip on his dash, as he picks up his car..


So, post them up!!!!! Let`s play! Lets roll! Lets not do the dyno numbers don`t mean ****avos thing, we all know they do to many! Show em!
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There are arguements for both. I disagree that dyno numbers don't mean anything. Frankly a dyno is the only scientific way to measure power output. Power output( specifically Torque) is the potential for work and acceleration. Ultimately all things being equal, the higher powered car should be the fastest.

The other arguement is that if you can't turn power into performance, than it's useless, which I also agree with. The reality is that there are more variables affecting consistancy and performance at the track than at the dyno. I can stip my interior, drop my exhaust, run drag pack wheels with skinnies and have 3 ounces of fuel in the tank for a run and knock of 4 tenths, but is that any way to enjoy a Mercedes?

Would I want to pick up a hot date in my sexy CLS and say "here baby, sit on this milk crate...I like to go FAAAAAST"? No. I will never, ever run my car other than the way I drive it on the street with the exception of DR's at the track. Does that mean I am leaving a few tenths on the slip. Probably. Do I much prefer smoking 99.9% of cars in full luxury and listening to satellite radio? YES!

Anyhow to answer Brook's question I am running 530whp and 599 Torque on a heat soaked car on a mustang dyno. It'l be good to run at timmayfest against people from all over the country so we can get time and dynos from cars at the same time in the same conditions.
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mine are 1000rwhp and 2000rwtq hahahaha
actually they are around 500rwhp and 600 rwtq
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I got a sheet somewhere with 670ftlbs when my car downshifted and dynod in second gear.
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Originally Posted by skratch77
I got a sheet somewhere with 670ftlbs when my car downshifted and dynod in second gear.

And I have a slip that says 9.70 at 141 when I did 0-130 runs at a track day. Thats not a scientific result now is it.
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And I have a slip that says 9.70 at 141 when I did 0-130 runs at a track day. Thats not a scientific result now is it.
Nope I was joking around.if I wanted braging rights I would dyno on a dynojet or a hub dyno dynapack.

I can also adjust my numbers using different correction factors and not using a load dyno or.

Its funny over at e90 post the all use dynojets and std numbers instead of sae just to post higher numbers.

There was a kid at our track with a fully modded 135 with b4 procede and running meth and race gas.he had everything done to it and said he is putting down 470 whp.

He was running mid 12s and trapping 113.

I ran 11.6 at 122 that same day with 467 whp on a properly dynod dyno
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LOL, embarrassing as it is, I guess it's me for the 55's. Sniff sniff, but alas I officially have a....a......dyno queen!! Okay, there I said it.

My car pulled near 570 wheel down with Vadim back in 2008 in near perfect conditions with race gas. Bascially EVERY run I tried after I got it back from LA..... I NEVER pulled under 12 secs. NO S*IT!! Famoso, Sacto....all the same. Victor (VRUS) said it was the most violent 0-60 55 he has ever felt and my tech said it pulled better than an SLR. Who the heck knows.

Hammer saw it run in Sacto and said it fell apart 3/4 down the track. So much that he could see it. Front end just sat right down like I was cruising in traffic.

30K into this thing to run as fast as Hammer did stock.

Most people say it's the 2.82 gears but I don't wanna waste 1-2k putting the stock diff back in.

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I have been working on my custom ported head project for the last 3 months and hope take this 55 plateform to another new level.. This porter can do them right! Be nice to get over 600 to the wheels and run 10`s all year long and in full street trim.. 190mph Texas mile would be even better though.. Nothing like that mile run..

My dyno sheet is also on a mustang dyno but they all vary some too. Just the one I have always used..

Post those dyno`s!

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Hey Jim did you get my meth kit yet?
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I agree that dynos means nothing, from 3 days i put 429 whp and 431 lb/ft sae on a Dynocomp, 4 runs. No way i can get those nb in the 3.2L V6.
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Hey Jim did you get my meth kit yet?
Got it Angelo, thanks brotha. Dayum that was fast!!

I really think this may be a missing piece to the puzzle. I am either blast furnacing the car with IAT's 3/4 down the track or it's those gears...or both.
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I tell you what, dyno numbers can make tuners alot of money. If you get caught up in the dyno game, you are going to have a major dent in your wallet
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Got it Angelo, thanks brotha. Dayum that was fast!!

I really think this may be a missing piece to the puzzle. I am either blast furnacing the car with IAT's 3/4 down the track or it's those gears...or both.

Why do you think it's the gears? Who did the TCM/EGS recalibration? Gears generally only help the 1/4 unless the modify the shift points such that adds an extra shift.
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Originally Posted by KLR CLS
There are arguements for both. I disagree that dyno numbers don't mean anything. Frankly a dyno is the only scientific way to measure power output. Power output( specifically Torque) is the potential for work and acceleration. Ultimately all things being equal, the higher powered car should be the fastest.

The other arguement is that if you can't turn power into performance, than it's useless, which I also agree with. The reality is that there are more variables affecting consistancy and performance at the track than at the dyno. I can stip my interior, drop my exhaust, run drag pack wheels with skinnies and have 3 ounces of fuel in the tank for a run and knock of 4 tenths, but is that any way to enjoy a Mercedes?

Would I want to pick up a hot date in my sexy CLS and say "here baby, sit on this milk crate...I like to go FAAAAAST"? No. I will never, ever run my car other than the way I drive it on the street with the exception of DR's at the track. Does that mean I am leaving a few tenths on the slip. Probably. Do I much prefer smoking 99.9% of cars in full luxury and listening to satellite radio? YES!

Anyhow to answer Brook's question I am running 530whp and 599 Torque on a heat soaked car on a mustang dyno. It'l be good to run at timmayfest against people from all over the country so we can get time and dynos from cars at the same time in the same conditions.
Incorrect and proven many times over, since the beginning of horsepower wars during Prohibition.

It's also how an engine makes power. This is why you might see factory cars, such as is prevalent with Porsche, where the lower HP factory car turns in faster drag times than an aftermarket conversion. This was also the case for the old 5 cylinder Audis, and especially for the 20v 5 cylinder engines, which produced on paper quite miniscule amounts of power, yet were deceivingly fast due to their flat torque curves and other items, such as ratios.

Where the power is produced, how wide the power band is, volumetric efficiency, ratios, weight, and other items all add up, not to mention torque convertors and parasitic losses.

I'd pick the car with less HP any day that will turn in faster Autobahn times due to suspension setup. That's actually what you'll find in Germany. 200hp, but huge brakes, tires, wheels, and a suspension designed for 150+.
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Originally Posted by skratch77
Dyno numbers mean nothing,you wont break 500 on my dyno and Loco has the fastest e55 on the plannit with 490whp.Its good to do before and after for personal numbers.

I put down 385whp and then 460 modded and ran 11.4 in the 1/4
I thought Bassn07 had a faster quarter mile and trap? I wonder what his dyno chart shows?


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