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Old May 12, 2011 | 02:05 PM
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Best bang for buck wideband?

Considering running one. Don't need datalogging. 2 things that I really care for is the air/fuel and IAT's...

I was looking at the kiwi unit? Any other suggestions? Don't want to spend too much on it...
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Old May 13, 2011 | 05:43 PM
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no one uses wideband? lol
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Old May 13, 2011 | 06:03 PM
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no one uses wideband? lol
I thought wideband was the way to go????
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Old May 13, 2011 | 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by tbal
Considering running one. Don't need datalogging. 2 things that I really care for is the air/fuel and IAT's...

I was looking at the kiwi unit? Any other suggestions? Don't want to spend too much on it...
I am using the Innovate Motorsports LC-1, I like it a lot!!
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Old May 13, 2011 | 06:25 PM
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zeitronix zt-2 connected to a dashdaq. if you only want wideband and iat zt-2 with gages will work
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Old May 13, 2011 | 06:50 PM
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I have a zeintronix zt-2 with wideband O2, boost gauge and IAT sensor just laying around. Never used. Email me if you're interested lukemichaluk@yahoo.com

Also have a dashdaq but I just have to find the stupid thing. Don't ask lol
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Old May 13, 2011 | 06:53 PM
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I have the PLX Kiwi Wifi w/iMFD port and the PLX 0^2 wideband module and sensor. Currently, only the Kiwi Wifi is installed on the car, and I'm using REV2 (iPhone app) to look at OBD stats and data log. I'm making arrangements to to have the wideband installed this month. Will update...
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Old May 19, 2011 | 02:04 AM
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Looking at a LC1... before I pull the trigger just wondering how necessary this is for me... Actually is it necessary to have one even if you dynoed, AFR's are fine and all? Do AFRS fluctuate so much that you need a wide band to see the AFRs all the time?
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Old May 19, 2011 | 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by tbal
Looking at a LC1... before I pull the trigger just wondering how necessary this is for me... Actually is it necessary to have one even if you dynoed, AFR's are fine and all? Do AFRS fluctuate so much that you need a wide band to see the AFRs all the time?


Yup, you should always monitor, its your motor. A lot of us that do not have sensors refrain from complete WOT for long distances.
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Old May 19, 2011 | 03:08 PM
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Yup, you should always monitor, its your motor. A lot of us that do not have sensors refrain from complete WOT for long distances.
I dont know about you, but when I had a wideband in my 500whp+ car, I didnt have time to look/monitor it when going WOT. It was really only used for road tuning and glanced at the first week or so and forgotten about after.
If the E55 was more heavily modded (for ex. meth, nos etc) I'd def. run a wideband. No doubt that its safer to "monitor" it, but I rather monitor the road at 140mph Lol
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Old May 19, 2011 | 03:50 PM
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I've got a brand new PLX A/F and PLX Kiwi Wifi w/iMFD port setup(
I only used the Kiwi a couple of times) if you are interested.
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Old May 19, 2011 | 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by E55Dimon
I dont know about you, but when I had a wideband in my 500whp+ car, I didnt have time to look/monitor it when going WOT. It was really only used for road tuning and glanced at the first week or so and forgotten about after.
If the E55 was more heavily modded (for ex. meth, nos etc) I'd def. run a wideband. No doubt that its safer to "monitor" it, but I rather monitor the road at 140mph Lol


how would you know if* you were going 140mph?

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Old May 19, 2011 | 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by E55Bullet
how would you know if* you were going 140mph?
Gearing, and getting it up there dozens of times repeatedly while road tuning.
Dont get me wrong, I'm not saying you're wrong...just that for me, the wideband only really made sense in the tuning stages and shortly afterwards. Or if you're often adding mods it'd make more sense too I guess. Crossing fingers my AFR stays great on the E without one
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Old May 19, 2011 | 04:41 PM
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Big Innovate Motorsports fan here but honestly I don't use it all the time. I just go rear pipe sniffer and run the cable into the backseat and just monitor a few WOT runs.

Rear pipe sniffer not as good as bung weld, but I guess it all depends on how much you are modding the thing ya know.

If the tune is solid and the AFs test out on some runs, I just leave it at that.

Heh, had a guy stop next to me and ask "What the F was sticking out of the back of my car" I told him Mercedes was doing some testing on emissions and it was a test car. He looked all psyched to be checking out a real test vehicle. LOL
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Old May 19, 2011 | 04:46 PM
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Big Innovate Motorsports fan here but honestly I don't use it all the time. I just go rear pipe sniffer and run the cable into the backseat and just monitor a few WOT runs.

Rear pipe sniffer not as good as bung weld, but I guess it all depends on how much you are modding the thing ya know.

If the tune is solid and the AFs test out on some runs, I just leave it at that.

Heh, had a guy stop next to me and ask "What the F was sticking out of the back of my car" I told him Mercedes was doing some testing on emissions and it was a test car. He looked all psyched to be checking out a real test vehicle. LOL
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Old May 19, 2011 | 04:49 PM
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I have a wide band I am about to sell. I will take some pics tonight and pm you.
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Originally Posted by E55Dimon
I dont know about you, but when I had a wideband in my 500whp+ car, I didnt have time to look/monitor it when going WOT. It was really only used for road tuning and glanced at the first week or so and forgotten about after.
If the E55 was more heavily modded (for ex. meth, nos etc) I'd def. run a wideband. No doubt that its safer to "monitor" it, but I rather monitor the road at 140mph Lol
Zeitronix has an adjustable alarm that has Saved me more than once.
This is a must read
http://www.zeitronix.com/Products/zavt/zavt.shtml
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Originally Posted by madgoat
I've got a brand new PLX A/F and PLX Kiwi Wifi w/iMFD port setup(
I only used the Kiwi a couple of times) if you are interested.
Care to tell us any info on your SCT Tuned E55?
Ive been waiting for ever to hear more.
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