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Old 05-23-2011, 02:53 PM
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One last question lol...

Once I split the system... is it necessary or recommended to have the ic pump run all the time?
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Its a devils own universal stage one with a boost activated switch set at 12 pounds. First nozzel is # 3 right before the TB the second is a #7 pre IC. I run 80% percent meth. Kit is ivery simple and effective, there switches are complete Poop. I switch to a Hobbs pressure switch.
What do you mean by # 3 and # 7? Also "there switches are complete poop. I switch to a hobbs pressure switch?" , I am sorry but i didn't get you here, may be my english ...

Do you know what are advantages of other stages ? 2 or 3 for example? How do you spot if the tank is near empty?
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#3 and #7 are the size of the nozzles for the devils own injection kit.
The switch senses pressure and activates the spray at preset psi level.
Stage 1 = max spray is trigger at set psi.
Stage 2 = you can set when to activate and deactivate the spray
Stage 3 = you can progressively increase the spray was psi increases.

I would stick with a stage 1 kit for simplicity.
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Got the HE today... Noticed some of the fins or w.e. they are called are bent on the surface. For a brand new HE thats horrible, will this effect anything? Should I call and complain or its ok?


Didnt realize its going to say ZZP on the freakin thing, I thought they only had that on their website so nobody steals the pictures lol...
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that is minor -- and you will get far worse from rocks and bugs ... You cant call and complain about those bends -- that is nothing.

ZZP red spray paint is new -- mine didnt have that ... You can complain about that -- and the design is different -- look at the mounting tabs --
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Thanks for the quick reply! I was just pissed to see all the bent fins lol...
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go to napa and sake for a radiator fin straightener. cost about 7$. its inserted in the fins and cleans the gaps up.

also running the pump costly is personal preference. some use it for additional cooling at the track but if you run a lightweight battery you can drain it quickly
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Hobbs is a type of pressure switch made by Honeywell, you can buy them at NAPA if you have that were your at. I Drilled and tapped the windshield washer tank, the kit comes with a self sealing bung. When the tank get low I have a warning on the dash.
Most people recommend using 50/50 mix of washer fluid and meth, at that ratio you can still you it safely as washer fluid for the window.

make sure you read and read and then re read about water injection and how it works, ONE little mistake and your engine is done and gone. Water does not compress.
This is not a beginner mod.

Originally Posted by ahmad0658
What do you mean by # 3 and # 7? Also "there switches are complete poop. I switch to a hobbs pressure switch?" , I am sorry but i didn't get you here, may be my english ...

Do you know what are advantages of other stages ? 2 or 3 for example? How do you spot if the tank is near empty?

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that is correct. and they use a large tank in the trunk for adding more volume and the ability to drain and add ice for faster cooldowns and longer time at wot
To give tou an idea of how hot these cars kit
I will go through 2 big bags of Ice in a single pass , Its not uncommon for me to go through 70-80 pounds of ice in a day.
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Originally Posted by 320 dreamer
go to napa and sake for a radiator fin straightener. cost about 7$. its inserted in the fins and cleans the gaps up.

also running the pump costly is personal preference. some use it for additional cooling at the track but if you run a lightweight battery you can drain it quickly
Thank you again!
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Originally Posted by sneakyneon
Hobbs is a type of pressure switch made by Honeywell, you can buy them at NAPA if you have that were your at. I Drilled and tapped the windshield washer tank, the kit comes with a self sealing bung. When the tank get low I have a warning on the dash.
Most people recommend using 50/50 mix of washer fluid and meth, at that ratio you can still you it safely as washer fluid for the window.

make sure you read and read and then re read about water injection and how it works, ONE little mistake and your engine is done and gone. Water does not compress.
This is not a beginner mod.
How long can you drive with windshield washer tank? 50/50 means you put 50 meth and 50 water on the tank? I plan to go that way, but I redirect the windshield washer window tank to fit smaller one somewhere just for that if i could and it does not matter when it finish ..

I am sorry Sneakyneon, I have a lot of questions, Can I get a link of the kit that you bought or at least the model?

- how do I know that the kit failed while i am driving.
- Can I get the S/N of that HonyWeel switch?
- If I used the windshield washer tank, The pump should be located where? or you put the kit at the trunk and you use the windshield washer as additional reservoir?
- When you said, small mistake, you mean in installation? I don't think i will install it by myself, but I need to know a lot about it.

Thank you Sneaky in advance for your information.

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Originally Posted by tbal
Got the HE today... Noticed some of the fins or w.e. they are called are bent on the surface. For a brand new HE thats horrible, will this effect anything? Should I call and complain or its ok?


Didnt realize its going to say ZZP on the freakin thing, I thought they only had that on their website so nobody steals the pictures lol...
Looks like someone tagged your intercooler with Krylon.
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Looks like someone tagged your intercooler with Krylon.
Good thing the NPT were on the opposite side so had to flip the HE around
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Originally Posted by tbal
Got the HE today... Noticed some of the fins or w.e. they are called are bent on the surface. For a brand new HE thats horrible, will this effect anything? Should I call and complain or its ok?


Didnt realize its going to say ZZP on the freakin thing, I thought they only had that on their website so nobody steals the pictures lol...
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Bump.. Are you still running this HE tbal?? Any pics and how was the install.. Looking into getting the same one..
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Bump.. Are you still running this HE tbal?? Any pics and how was the install.. Looking into getting the same one..
Saw that you asked in another thread which H/E I have. I run this one without any issues..
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Saw that you asked in another thread which H/E I have. I run this one without any issues..
http://shop.zzperformance.com/store/...Exchanger.aspx

This one? Or the Frozen Boost one?
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This one.

http://www.frozenboost.com/product_i...0b4fee25778e3a
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Originally Posted by aghakauve
Thanks... It surely adds to the look of the car.. I dont even think the stock HE is visible.

Looks as though that HE only has 1/2 inch inlets and outlets as opposed to the ZZ performance HE that has 3/4 inch.. Also read somewhere that the ZZ was better quality ... Hopefully others chime in on their install experiences.
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Originally Posted by AKnight55
Thanks... It surely adds to the look of the car.. I dont even think the stock HE is visible.

Looks as though that HE only has 1/2 inch inlets and outlets as opposed to the ZZ performance HE that has 3/4 inch.. Also read somewhere that the ZZ was better quality ... Hopefully others chime in on their install experiences.
The best bang for you buck would be the EC H/E. Easy to install and its made for our cars. I have had no issues with my Frozen Boost H/E but I did have to cut the bottom brackets. I would still pic a EC one over any H/E in this thread..
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The PLM is a good option if not the best for the money:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PLM-Heat-Exc...item3a6d4a278b
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The PLM is a good option if not the best for the money:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PLM-Heat-Exc...item3a6d4a278b
More than im looking to spend.. And plus im pretty sure the PLM is not nearly as big as these other HEs.
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Originally Posted by AKnight55
Thanks... It surely adds to the look of the car.. I dont even think the stock HE is visible.

Looks as though that HE only has 1/2 inch inlets and outlets as opposed to the ZZ performance HE that has 3/4 inch.. Also read somewhere that the ZZ was better quality ... Hopefully others chime in on their install experiences.
What do you want to know?
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What do you want to know?
Yea I was going to PM you as I saw you had the ZZ HE installed. I just wanted to make sure it will fit right or if there was any modifications you had to make to make it work?
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My install was different than what 99% would do so don't go by mine.
The zzp is same as the earlier EC, have you read that thread?. Neither(Zzp/Ec) comes with the mount for the oil cooler on 04-06 models. You will have to drill out the factory mount and rivet it onto the new h/e or make your own mounts.


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