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Old May 15, 2011 | 02:40 PM
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Question Frozen Boost Heat Exchanger

I know there is one person on here who installed this puppy.
http://www.frozenboost.com/product_i...0b4fee25778e3a

Anybody else have any input on this HE? The price is unbeatable, or would you recommend a different HE? Fitments, parts needed for install etc? The 3.5" thickness seems kinda of big, and locating the oil cooler behind the HE going to cause any problems?

I'm changing the IC pump, and coolant so figured might as well do this as well and get the cooling mods out of the way... (for now, haha)

Thanks in advance tech gurus
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Old May 15, 2011 | 04:42 PM
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Interested in this as well!
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Old May 15, 2011 | 05:10 PM
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The NPT fitting are only 1/2" ports whereas the stock circuit uses 3/4" hose. That will be a major pressure restriction.

I would pass on this and get either the C&R Racing built one that EC developed/sells(I actually bought 2 this week from them) or the Ebay special PLM.
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Old May 15, 2011 | 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by tbal
I know there is one person on here who installed this puppy.
http://www.frozenboost.com/product_i...0b4fee25778e3a

Anybody else have any input on this HE? The price is unbeatable, or would you recommend a different HE? Fitments, parts needed for install etc? The 3.5" thickness seems kinda of big, and locating the oil cooler behind the HE going to cause any problems?

I'm changing the IC pump, and coolant so figured might as well do this as well and get the cooling mods out of the way... (for now, haha)

Thanks in advance tech gurus
There is two people that I know of that have it, me being one of them.
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Old May 15, 2011 | 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by sneakyneon
There is two people that I know of that have it, me being one of them.
So would you mind sharing your thoughts?

As Bruce mentioned, the fittings are a bit smaller - did you opt to change the fittings, if that's even possible?
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Old May 15, 2011 | 06:47 PM
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+1

There are these aswell..
http://www.zzperformance.com/grand_p...=857&catid=139
http://zzperformance.com/cobalt_ion/...=895&catid=178
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Old May 15, 2011 | 08:02 PM
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So would you mind sharing your thoughts?

As Bruce mentioned, the fittings are a bit smaller - did you opt to change the fittings, if that's even possible?
Its NPT you can change the fitting but the ID will always be the same.
I would not use it if I had to do it over.
Install is covered Here
https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...r-upgrade.html
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So no point doing the FB HE?

What about the other ones I posted links of?
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Old May 15, 2011 | 08:09 PM
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more usefull info
https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...exchanger.html
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ZZ maybe a better bet,
Read this: http://zzperformance.com/cobalt_ion/articles1.php?id=65
I went with the FB because I'm perpetually broke and it fit my budget after this mishap with a semi truck tire
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What are your peak IAT temps now?
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Originally Posted by sneakyneon
I appreciate the help! I know we started off on the wrong foot... Lol

I'm still confused on the FB, Npt you can change, what's ID?

Some of the links I posted are from that thread. I'm confused on which one to get...
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Old May 15, 2011 | 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by tbal
I appreciate the help! I know we started off on the wrong foot... Lol

I'm still confused on the FB, Npt you can change, what's ID?

Some of the links I posted are from that thread. I'm confused on which one to get...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_pipe_thread

ID = Inner Diameter
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Lol thanks
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Old May 15, 2011 | 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by sneakyneon
ZZ maybe a better bet,
Read this: http://zzperformance.com/cobalt_ion/articles1.php?id=65
I went with the FB because I'm perpetually broke and it fit my budget after this mishap with a semi truck tire
WOw BS same thing happened to me , what the hell man , they should put some kinda law for that god damnit.

Stupid tires just poppin out of nowhere
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Old May 16, 2011 | 01:00 AM
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i got this HE -- Riveted it to the bumper support... had to do some minor trimming on the bottom of the 'skid plate' --- had to really tuck the oil cooler --

No problems with this massive HE-- but I never had problems with the OEM HE either -- even in the Vegas summer.
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Okay so FB is out of the question.

How about the Zz performance one???
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Honestly the best money spent now would be on logging softwear. Have to know were your at to be able to improve on that.
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Honestly the best money spent now would be on logging softwear. Have to know were your at to be able to improve on that.
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Originally Posted by guysandiego
i got this HE -- Riveted it to the bumper support... had to do some minor trimming on the bottom of the 'skid plate' --- had to really tuck the oil cooler --

No problems with this massive HE-- but I never had problems with the OEM HE either -- even in the Vegas summer.
What about the NPT fittings, using 1/2" over the stock 3/4" wont that restrict flow?

I am looking into datalogging possibly, but wideband for sure afr/iat monitoring at the min.
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Old May 16, 2011 | 03:25 AM
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This one http://zzperformance.com/cobalt_ion/...=895&catid=178 looks identical to the Eurocharged and PLM HE's. Cooling specs seem to be the same as well. I want to order today hopefully, really leaning towards this one, unless one of you PROS says otherwise
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Are any of these an improvement over the Code 3 HE?


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the zzp has the 2 main factors i looked for in a larger h/e. first being fin area. the more area the better the cooling. the 2nd is inlet diameter and at 3/4 you should be fine. looks like a better quality product than the f/b just my .02
are you able to slide a h/e behind the crash bumper? i relocated my horns and p/s line and was able to slide a 26x16x1 in front of the oem radiator. massive fin area and allows for 100* diff between engine and i/c temps
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Originally Posted by tbal
What about the NPT fittings, using 1/2" over the stock 3/4" wont that restrict flow?

I am looking into datalogging possibly, but wideband for sure afr/iat monitoring at the min.
Im not sure that would even be an issue, If Im not mistaken the ID of the pump inlet is much smaller then it appears as well (cm30), and a closed system like this is going to be limited by single smallest dia./ most restrictive point right!?!
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Originally Posted by 320 dreamer
the zzp has the 2 main factors i looked for in a larger h/e. first being fin area. the more area the better the cooling. the 2nd is inlet diameter and at 3/4 you should be fine. looks like a better quality product than the f/b just my .02
are you able to slide a h/e behind the crash bumper? i relocated my horns and p/s line and was able to slide a 26x16x1 in front of the oem radiator. massive fin area and allows for 100* diff between engine and i/c temps
Thanks! Gonna pull the trigger on that one than . Reading the specs on the oem he i can't believe how garbage it is and why amg bothered to even use it...
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