Frozen Boost Heat Exchanger
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I was thinking the same, running the two would increase vol for sure but i question the end result vs swapping a larger unit w/ pump. I got one of the larger ZZP units that i plan to run alone but Im always looking for more info.
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Fingers crossed the e63 bumper doesn't *** with the HE...
What about the oil cooler, does it need to be moved?
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i dont think the Bosch can handle 2 HEs -- you are better off using 2 pumps to push and pull --- I got an 06 pump sitting if your interesting.
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The pump I have in the car atm still works, just for maintenance sake I am replacing with the bosch...
So should I run both Pumps? I rather keep it on the simpler side to tell you the truth. So Having 2 HEs and using the bosch pump not a good idea?
Now Im really confused lol
Bruce, Shardul...... lol
So should I run both Pumps? I rather keep it on the simpler side to tell you the truth. So Having 2 HEs and using the bosch pump not a good idea?
Now Im really confused lol
Bruce, Shardul...... lol
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Log my car stock
Change pump (that you already have)
Log again
Seperate the engine coolant from SC coolant
Log again
Add Second HE
Log again
Add stock pump to bosch pump
Log again
Add Trunk water tank
Log again
Add large meziere
Log again
Add water/ meth injection
Log again
Add Killer chiller
Log again.
To me this is the most logical approach to DIY modding. At some point you will feel that you have meet your cooling goals.
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My cooling is:
6 gal trunk tank
1250 gal/hr pump
monstor size Frozzen boost HE
Dual Nozzel Water meth injection
My IAT never go over 90 degrees with 195mm pulley@ 19psi
I'm still not happy and gooing to keep working on it. Next I'm going to try
3 gal tank
larger feed/return lines
DIY killer chiller
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Your too crazy lol. I would love to try many setups bit really becomes a time issue for me.
If you were to do this once. What would it be?
Single he or should I run both stock and zzp he? Split ic? And more importantly would the Bosch be enough to push/pull the coolant through 2 HE's?
If you were to do this once. What would it be?
Single he or should I run both stock and zzp he? Split ic? And more importantly would the Bosch be enough to push/pull the coolant through 2 HE's?
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i haver the smaller version of this engine and would like to add a comment or 2 . separating the i/c system from the engine is a huge gain. going from a high pressure setup to a low pressure setup greatly reduced my iat's. then use as large as possible h/e for your car. the more surface area the better for cooling . i use a cm30 pump but only because it was a longer lasting unit not a better flowing unit. my iats run consistently 100* lower than engine temps until i run wot. then i peak at about 120* running 65* cooler than the engine.
the remote tank will allow longer time at cooler temps but eventually all the fluid will run at the same temp unless ice or long cool downs are inserted into the equation.
as sneakyneon said testing and logging are the only way to know what works best for your application
the remote tank will allow longer time at cooler temps but eventually all the fluid will run at the same temp unless ice or long cool downs are inserted into the equation.
as sneakyneon said testing and logging are the only way to know what works best for your application
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Most people just make one change and live with the results, They buy a vendors kit and call it a day. If you want whats best you have to exspirment.
My cooling is:
6 gal trunk tank
1250 gal/hr pump
monstor size Frozzen boost HE
Dual Nozzel Water meth injection
My IAT never go over 90 degrees with 195mm pulley@ 19psi
I'm still not happy and gooing to keep working on it. Next I'm going to try
3 gal tank
larger feed/return lines
DIY killer chiller
My cooling is:
6 gal trunk tank
1250 gal/hr pump
monstor size Frozzen boost HE
Dual Nozzel Water meth injection
My IAT never go over 90 degrees with 195mm pulley@ 19psi
I'm still not happy and gooing to keep working on it. Next I'm going to try
3 gal tank
larger feed/return lines
DIY killer chiller
Thanx in advanced for your time in writing
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i haver the smaller version of this engine and would like to add a comment or 2 . separating the i/c system from the engine is a huge gain. going from a high pressure setup to a low pressure setup greatly reduced my iat's. then use as large as possible h/e for your car. the more surface area the better for cooling . i use a cm30 pump but only because it was a longer lasting unit not a better flowing unit. my iats run consistently 100* lower than engine temps until i run wot. then i peak at about 120* running 65* cooler than the engine.
the remote tank will allow longer time at cooler temps but eventually all the fluid will run at the same temp unless ice or long cool downs are inserted into the equation.
as sneakyneon said testing and logging are the only way to know what works best for your application
the remote tank will allow longer time at cooler temps but eventually all the fluid will run at the same temp unless ice or long cool downs are inserted into the equation.
as sneakyneon said testing and logging are the only way to know what works best for your application
My original question I am still a bit confused on...
Single he or should I run both stock and zzp he? And more importantly would the Bosch be enough to push/pull the coolant through 2 HE's?
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Its a devils own universal stage one with a boost activated switch set at 12 pounds. First nozzel is # 3 right before the TB the second is a #7 pre IC. I run 80% percent meth. Kit is ivery simple and effective, there switches are complete Poop. I switch to a Hobbs pressure switch.
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Your too crazy lol. I would love to try many setups bit really becomes a time issue for me.
If you were to do this once. What would it be?
Single he or should I run both stock and zzp he? Split ic? And more importantly would the Bosch be enough to push/pull the coolant through 2 HE's?
If you were to do this once. What would it be?
Single he or should I run both stock and zzp he? Split ic? And more importantly would the Bosch be enough to push/pull the coolant through 2 HE's?
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Since the new HE on its way, I thinking Im just going to split, run new pump, and just the new HE.
Too many darn setups!
Thanks!
(Looked at the splitting ic diy... seems kind of confusing, any pointers?)
Too many darn setups!
Thanks!
(Looked at the splitting ic diy... seems kind of confusing, any pointers?)
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2003 porsche 996 turbo
does your new h/e have a cap? if not splitting the i/c you wont be able to fill the system unless you run a overflow tank. if you look at your reservoir there is a large line coming out under the tank and a small line from the i/c to the tank. simply cap the lines off and the system is separate. my h/e is built from a radiator so it has a fill cap. i haven't ever had to add any fluid once the system is bled
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