evosport - New Development on Cooling Upgrades (Top Mounted Intercoolers)
01-08-2012, 06:10 PM
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The Weistec comes with a high flow intercooler so don't think that putting the blower on a fulley modded car is going to hurt anything. The stock intercooler is no longer being used on top of the bigger supercharger being more efficient making intake temps cooler to start with. And remember they are using a pretty good sized 3 liter blower which should be capable of making well over 600whp easily when running any kind of decent boost. They make 650whp on Cobras with a 2.8 liter using cats and stock exhaust, so imagine an even bigger blower along with all the mods done (headers, exhaust, bigger throttle body). We could be in for a real treat when adjusting the boost around with pullies.
It looks like the Whipple is identical to the Weistec so I am curious if Weistec worked with them to have this done and if so then all kinds of different pulleys and accessories will be available.
And again, install is very easy since you are swapping out a complete unit, so it really isn't even much work at all.
It looks like the Whipple is identical to the Weistec so I am curious if Weistec worked with them to have this done and if so then all kinds of different pulleys and accessories will be available.
And again, install is very easy since you are swapping out a complete unit, so it really isn't even much work at all.
01-08-2012, 06:29 PM
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Lets hope so, it is speculation but maybe when not having to run as much boost and as much timing trying to make power since you have a bigger blower making things easier and intake temps cooler maybe that will take some stress off the pistons.
Only time will tell, sure would be nice to get these intercoolers out on the market and that Weistec kit as well and see how things go.
Only time will tell, sure would be nice to get these intercoolers out on the market and that Weistec kit as well and see how things go.
01-09-2012, 02:37 AM
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Lets hope so, it is speculation but maybe when not having to run as much boost and as much timing trying to make power since you have a bigger blower making things easier and intake temps cooler maybe that will take some stress off the pistons.
Only time will tell, sure would be nice to get these intercoolers out on the market and that Weistec kit as well and see how things go.
Only time will tell, sure would be nice to get these intercoolers out on the market and that Weistec kit as well and see how things go.
01-09-2012, 01:04 PM
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EvoSport hasn't even tried to give a slight update or even BUMP their own thread though. This was supposed to be a major step for cooling and it was supposed to be a professionally made kit with real R&D not some garage weld jobs some members have done for their own cars. Yes, alot of custom work is good and innovative but ultimately a kit like this done by a big company even if it's a little more expensive is the preferred option. So where is Brad, I know they wanted to not update until the project finished but it's been so long..... Some people have sold their cars, others had children during this time and some have died
I'm not holding my breath for any updates soon. I spoke to EvoSport In early december and was told two weeks. Now, i'm looking for a solution on my own.
01-09-2012, 04:04 PM
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I havent run it on my e55 as i am still on stock boost with larger H/E and LT headers so see no need to yet but in both the audi and bmw world guys are running it and seeing way more pickup than with just the larger intercooler kits alone.... i picked up almost 35hp on my b5s4 when i installed meth and got tuned for itonce some tuners in the MB world start making some tunes for meth i think will open up some new doors for all the higher boost guys
01-09-2012, 05:44 PM
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The problem with the oem intercooler isn't with cooling, it's with flow. It's a cork, and no matter how much you cool the charge air, it'll still be a cork.
01-10-2012, 01:04 PM
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the core is too long and narrow ... too much restriction with not really removing the heat.
01-10-2012, 01:17 PM
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There will always be limits, but right now the oem intercooler seems to be the most restrictive part of the entire system flow wise. It's like breathing through a straw, and kinking it to make matters worse.
01-10-2012, 01:47 PM
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Thoughts anyone?
01-10-2012, 02:03 PM
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Has anyone tried to improve the OEM intercooler? Making it taller or replace its OEM core with a bigger core? I am assuming adding 2 inches to the OEM intercooler (to account for a bigger or better core) could do wonders for IAT, yet not lose any pressure? Also, wouldn't this type of mod be cheaper and better than a set up on top of the SC?
Thoughts anyone?
Thoughts anyone?
01-10-2012, 09:52 PM
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I wanted to let everyone know that this project has in no way been forgot about or abandoned. Quite the opposite actually. We have achieved some very favorable results. We will post an update with dyno results in a couple days.
Thank you for your patience.
Thank you for your patience.
01-10-2012, 09:55 PM
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If you have the results why wait "a few more days" Your track record when it comes to timelines isn't exactly sterling.
01-10-2012, 10:06 PM
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They might be trying to figure out how they will sell more than 2 or 3 of these at the prices I think they'll end up quoting for this stuff. lol
01-10-2012, 10:57 PM
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theeddie evosport / so yah how can we get people to buy an upgrade that cost 1/2 of the car's value
when you put it into clear perspective like that, the MB TAX isn't going to help sell many units on this site.Though if you own your car outright, & love it like most of us HP freaks you'll find the $$ (It should make a nice bit of rwhp, the Speedriven larger Intercoolers for V12 App's make 40-45 rwhp alone, I think the Evosport V8 komp versions are far more advanced & will more than likely make 50+ rwhp just MYOP)
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01-11-2012, 04:09 AM
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I do however agree that if it's anywhere near 10k they won't sell especially with the new Weistec. These things have to be 3-4k to be even considered worthy. Maybe if the Weistec hadn't been announced but whether anyone likes it or not the Weistec is gonna be a new, more efficient and larger blower which will fix some cooling issues on it's own so to think this thing could be priced anywhere near it is
Plus as said you can't have a mod at 1/2 the car's price on a car this old, I don't care if it's a Mercedes. It's also gonna depend on the results of this unit and how good it is 
01-11-2012, 05:28 AM
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Nice update EvoSport, thanks for not abandoning it
I do however agree that if it's anywhere near 10k they won't sell especially with the new Weistec. These things have to be 3-4k to be even considered worthy. Maybe if the Weistec hadn't been announced but whether anyone likes it or not the Weistec is gonna be a new, more efficient and larger blower which will fix some cooling issues on it's own so to think this thing could be priced anywhere near it is Plus as said you can't have a mod at 1/2 the car's price on a car this old, I don't care if it's a Mercedes. It's also gonna depend on the results of this unit and how good it is
I do however agree that if it's anywhere near 10k they won't sell especially with the new Weistec. These things have to be 3-4k to be even considered worthy. Maybe if the Weistec hadn't been announced but whether anyone likes it or not the Weistec is gonna be a new, more efficient and larger blower which will fix some cooling issues on it's own so to think this thing could be priced anywhere near it is
Plus as said you can't have a mod at 1/2 the car's price on a car this old, I don't care if it's a Mercedes. It's also gonna depend on the results of this unit and how good it is
01-11-2012, 07:22 AM
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Right here click me.
And I think Weistec if screwing with us.
They have released their SLS supercharger now too but we are still waiting on the E55, the only car that actually had a supercharger to start with and you would think would be easiest to do an upgrade on making it come out sooner.
And I think Weistec if screwing with us.
They have released their SLS supercharger now too but we are still waiting on the E55, the only car that actually had a supercharger to start with and you would think would be easiest to do an upgrade on making it come out sooner.
01-11-2012, 09:09 AM
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Right here click me.
And I think Weistec if screwing with us. They have released their SLS supercharger now too but we are still waiting on the E55, the only car that actually had a supercharger to start with and you would think would be easiest to do an upgrade on making it come out sooner.
And I think Weistec if screwing with us.
They have released their SLS supercharger now too but we are still waiting on the E55, the only car that actually had a supercharger to start with and you would think would be easiest to do an upgrade on making it come out sooner.
