Service Brake! Visit workshop!
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i had the same msg...
thought it was SBC pump which is covered for 100k miles...
went to dealer hoping to get it replaced, but they fixed the problem by reprogramming...
no msg since and hopefully not for another 100k... :P
thought it was SBC pump which is covered for 100k miles...
went to dealer hoping to get it replaced, but they fixed the problem by reprogramming...
no msg since and hopefully not for another 100k... :P
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Just to close the loop. The Dealer reprogrammed the SBC at no charge. I had 100745 miles on the odometer at service.
I would have reprogrammed it with STAR but the controller was too warm at the time and it errored out. Temp need to be below 80C to reprogram.
I also got 4 wheel Alignment and came out of there with a $52 bill! Mostly due to a Amazon Local $50 Voucher for $100 in Service!
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Dealer charged me for reprogramming included in their diagnostic fee even though I pulled the code and showed the a screenshot of it from the STAR computer. Oh well.
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Just to close the loop. The Dealer reprogrammed the SBC at no charge. I had 100745 miles on the odometer at service.
I would have reprogrammed it with STAR but the controller was too warm at the time and it errored out. Temp need to be below 80C to reprogram.
I also got 4 wheel Alignment and came out of there with a $52 bill! Mostly due to a Amazon Local $50 Voucher for $100 in Service!
I would have reprogrammed it with STAR but the controller was too warm at the time and it errored out. Temp need to be below 80C to reprogram.
I also got 4 wheel Alignment and came out of there with a $52 bill! Mostly due to a Amazon Local $50 Voucher for $100 in Service!
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2006 E55 AMG
With my setup it showed the error and gave option to reprogram. I looked up the 80C message and it is in the shop manual.
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I have this stupid message too and from what I see, people are getting it fixed by the dealer. I'm not paying them for them to just upgrade the software / change the values in STAR.
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It will give an option to program, start the process and report back with how far you got without the required kit which plugs in under the hood, directly to the SBC.
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I had this message on my car for a while and I ignored it... well the other day my car came up with the red BRAKE message to visit workshop and it wouldn't let me put the car in gear. I was messing around with turning the car on and off and finally it let me put the car in gear, but my brakes weren't working. After playing around some more, the car started to act normal but I had a check engine light. I ended up driving the car to the dealership since it was only a mile away and they said it needed a software update which was covered under warranty.
For those of you with this message, I suggest you take care of it before the car leaves you stranded.
For those of you with this message, I suggest you take care of it before the car leaves you stranded.
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I got the message a few weeks ago and took the car to the dealer yesterday. Was told it is the SBC pump under the 10 year warrenty. I asked about the counter and they said you can only reset it a few times.
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Yeah, and what is this magical counter they talk about? Is this just a little temporary trick to keep our cars happy while they're under warranty, so then once it's out of warranty and this thing really breaks, we're screwed?
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Looks like you learned a lesson from 10 days ago … never ignore messages like these.
For everyone, is it worth getting stranded or worse having your brakes failing when you are driving at speed? Bite the bullet and go take care of it. If it is covered by warranty, consider it a bonus.
For everyone, is it worth getting stranded or worse having your brakes failing when you are driving at speed? Bite the bullet and go take care of it. If it is covered by warranty, consider it a bonus.
I had this message on my car for a while and I ignored it... well the other day my car came up with the red BRAKE message to visit workshop and it wouldn't let me put the car in gear. I was messing around with turning the car on and off and finally it let me put the car in gear, but my brakes weren't working. After playing around some more, the car started to act normal but I had a check engine light. I ended up driving the car to the dealership since it was only a mile away and they said it needed a software update which was covered under warranty.
For those of you with this message, I suggest you take care of it before the car leaves you stranded.
For those of you with this message, I suggest you take care of it before the car leaves you stranded.
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Looks like you learned a lesson from 10 days ago … never ignore messages like these.
For everyone, is it worth getting stranded or worse having your brakes failing when you are driving at speed? Bite the bullet and go take care of it. If it is covered by warranty, consider it a bonus.
For everyone, is it worth getting stranded or worse having your brakes failing when you are driving at speed? Bite the bullet and go take care of it. If it is covered by warranty, consider it a bonus.
(Not directing the below comments at any one in particular, just a general observation around the board lately)
I don't understand how people still drive with red warning messages like the one described in this thread. There's a reason it's RED. There was another thread recently about the battery visit workshop message and people just don't pay much attention to it.
You're putting yourself and everyone on the road in the danger by NOT taking care of these warnings. It's dangerous. Get it fixed. If you can't afford it, sell the car or don't drive it until you can fix it. It's that simple.
If anything like this is under warranty, IT'S FREE!
Last edited by ArmoE55; Mar 20, 2014 at 10:46 AM.
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W212 E63 AMG S Model
+1 Amen.
(Not directing the below comments at any one in particular, just a general observation around the board lately)
I don't understand how people still drive with red warning messages like the one described in this thread. There's a reason it's RED. There was another thread recently about the battery visit workshop message and people just don't pay much attention to it.
You're putting yourself and everyone on the road in the danger by NOT taking care of these warnings. It's dangerous. Get it fixed. If you can't afford it, sell the car or don't drive it until you can fix it. It's that simple.
If anything like this is under warranty, IT'S FREE!
(Not directing the below comments at any one in particular, just a general observation around the board lately)
I don't understand how people still drive with red warning messages like the one described in this thread. There's a reason it's RED. There was another thread recently about the battery visit workshop message and people just don't pay much attention to it.
You're putting yourself and everyone on the road in the danger by NOT taking care of these warnings. It's dangerous. Get it fixed. If you can't afford it, sell the car or don't drive it until you can fix it. It's that simple.
If anything like this is under warranty, IT'S FREE!
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W212 E63 AMG S Model
I forgot to post back in this thread, but a couple days after the reprogram, I got the message again. I went right back to the dealer and told them it came up and they said they'd take a look at it. They ended up replacing the SBC unit this time around and so far so good. 
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2010 E63
Had a white brake warning pop up about a month after doing all brake pads/rotors/sensors. Thinking it was the SBC, took it to the dealership. It was the SBC accumulator/reservoir which the tech said was leaking. Because this is technically a separate part from the SBC unit it is not covered under warranty. Cost about $1100 to replace the reservoir at the dealership. As far as I can tell it just depends what codes it throws during diagnostic as to whether or not they will repair under warranty. My car had already had the SBC unit replaced several years before I purchased it.
