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Old Jun 21, 2012 | 06:48 PM
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The rear looks all wrong to me. It seems so obvious that the flare was built that way because they were scared to allow the flare to encroach into the rear door areas and deal with all the extra work. They basically built the largest flare that would fit in the rear quarter panel even though the proportions make it look way too small.

I'm not a particularly accomplished metalworker but the early photos of the rear fenders show that whoever has been doing this work is hiding their lack of skill with buckets and buckets of body filler. The front flare shows inconsistencies as well, and the overly-large radius transitioning from the flare to the orginal fender gives it a really cheap "this is all bondo" look.

IMHO.... the front wheel/tire combo is simply too "big" looking. If that were scaled-down (and the front flare re-worked) the rear would probably not be so objectionable.



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Old Jun 21, 2012 | 06:52 PM
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Old Jun 21, 2012 | 07:08 PM
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You guys are harsh. I think it looks great!
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Old Jun 21, 2012 | 07:17 PM
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When it's painted and assembled with hopefully some nicer wheels, it's going to be WAY cooler visually than MOST W211s. If he does little accents, carbon fiber etc... this car is going to look so menacing.
Just wait until I do a wide body on the rear of my CL and am able to run 315s
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Old Jun 21, 2012 | 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by OCKlasse
You guys are harsh. I think it looks great!
Really...??

Does this type of metalwork impress you....or anyone?




It looks like someone took a bunch of balled-up tin foil and made a flare out of it..... there is no reason why such a simple curved shape would require all of that random hammering. I do better hammer & dolly work than that and I'm just a beginner.

Interestingly, the rocker extension piece looks pretty well-executed. I can't believe it was the same fabricator....and it probably wasn't.

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Old Jun 21, 2012 | 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by GregMB
The rear looks all wrong to me. It seems so obvious that the flare was built that way because they were scared to allow the flare to encroach into the rear door areas and deal with all the extra work. They basically built the largest flare that would fit in the rear quarter panel even though the proportions make it look way too small.

I'm not a particularly accomplished metalworker but the early photos of the rear fenders show that whoever has been doing this work is hiding their lack of skill with buckets and buckets of body filler. The front flare shows inconsistencies as well, and the overly-large radius transitioning from the flare to the orginal fender gives it a really cheap "this is all bondo" look.

IMHO.... the front wheel/tire combo is simply too "big" looking. If that were scaled-down (and the front flare re-worked) the rear would probably not be so objectionable.



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Metal work is frankly irrelevant in this case, all they have to do is get the right shape they want and make a mold off it. It's not like anybody who wants to do a widebody actually does metal work, this isn't a Chevelle. Once you have a mold of the right shape you can then cut out the the metal and install and then integrate the fender. The front is bolt on anyway so no real work there. I think the rear is a little to aggressive, if they reduce the rear widebody A LITTLE only a tiny tiny bit it will look incredible and it already does. I've seen some really bad W211s on this forum so it's not like alot of people can truly say their W211s look good. Very hard car to get right and most don't. I do think the rear bumper is overkill with the whole integrating the widebody to roll into the back bumper. Love the front though. Once finished and painted I think it'll look amazing. Remember crappy paint or in this case no paint can make shapes look larger or quirky because of the reflected light. Hope they haven't abandoned the project though.
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Old Jun 21, 2012 | 08:17 PM
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I would hold a Mercedes shop to a higher standard than one working on a Chevelle...

Anyway, if the flares are going to be fiberglass I hate it even more. Fiberglass NEVER looks the same as steel when it's painted, and that is to say that it is always wavy and never shows the same "depth" in the paint as steel does.

.....and I couldn't disagree more about your comment that paint will make all the difference. If the bodywork looks bad NOW, a deep coat of glossy paint isn't going to hide it. It's going to accentuate every poorly executed thing on that car. There's a reason why guys spend hundreds of hours blocking out the primer on a car before the color goes on. Glossy paint is merciless and will show EVERY flaw in the prep work or fabrication steps.

Maybe the final product will prove me wrong, but at this point I seriously doubt it.


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Old Jun 22, 2012 | 01:20 PM
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Anyway, if the flares are going to be fiberglass I hate it even more. Fiberglass NEVER looks the same as steel when it's painted, and that is to say that it is always wavy and never shows the same "depth" in the paint as steel does.
I beg to differ. I've seen many cars with fiberglass/carbon bodywork that looks just as good as metal.
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Old Jun 22, 2012 | 06:50 PM
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I beg to differ. I've seen many cars with fiberglass/carbon bodywork that looks just as good as metal.
Fiber glass is just SHIIT. CF is very different to FG. They paint just chip out so fast and so weak.
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Old Jun 22, 2012 | 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by MB_Fahrer
I beg to differ. I've seen many cars with fiberglass/carbon bodywork that looks just as good as metal.
As have I. I do my own body work on my cars ( within reason since I don't exactly have a lot of time for it since I have another job ) so I know something about this and I have seen fiberglass work that simply looks amazing.
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Old Jun 23, 2012 | 01:30 AM
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If done right, fiberglass can look perfect and blend like the rest of a car. Bodywork is an art, and everyone isn't an artist. I love the direction of the rear arches on this project. Hopefully it comes to complete fruition so we can judge to final product and not just the R&D progress. The vision is there and it's a good one
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Old Jun 25, 2012 | 02:59 PM
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Wait for the final product..Jeez
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Old Jun 25, 2012 | 03:39 PM
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Looks like it's been painted. No other shots yet.

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Old Jun 25, 2012 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by obsidian05e55
Looks like it's been painted. No other shots yet.

No fog lights either. That's what I'm talking about This is going to be one of the most visually appealing W211s. Already loving it. This thing is going to **** on most E55s
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Old Jun 25, 2012 | 04:46 PM
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If that's painted/finished??? Look @ the ****ty fender lining up to the 1/4 panels by the outside headlight area ahhhh hope they fix that...
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Old Jun 27, 2012 | 12:56 PM
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Wow! That wide body is amazing! One of the nicest looking w211s. I want them to make rear wide body for my car. Any contact info?
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Old Jun 27, 2012 | 04:03 PM
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I think the front looks great, I think they bolted fender flares onto the back and painted them
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Old Jun 27, 2012 | 04:09 PM
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wow, that thing is beefed up.....looks cool
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Old Jun 27, 2012 | 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by PACougar
I think the front looks great, I think they bolted fender flares onto the back and painted them
Agreed.



The front flows very nicely. The back... Not so much.
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Old Jun 27, 2012 | 06:17 PM
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God that's disappointing, I thought it would look better. It flows well at the front but the back, it's just not fluid and sexy. ...and for the millionth time what is up with putting roof spoilers on these cars ??! Roof spoilers ruin W211s, boot lip spoilers are a must but those stupid ugly roof spoiler FFS. Whatever to each his own but they're just hideous.
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Old Jun 27, 2012 | 07:40 PM
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Car looks really good except for one little issue. How he front fender merges it self onto the front bumper. I think it needs work there, just not sure what it needs but it it looks too empty there
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I think it looks good
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