Ag02m5

I just emailed him about my catastrophic engine failure.

MoFetti

Subscribing

neliconcept

subscribing as well, this makes me cringe, I really wanted a w211, and seems I would have to get a w212 biturbo otherwise

qadhi79

did you get any response after you showed the TSB? my 2009 ML63 sounds exactly like this..is it really as normal as the MB techs say or should I get it checked along with the TSB?

sack5000

30,000 people in the class sounds like a number from outer space, do you mean 300 people, 3,000 people.

MRAMG1

I find that number VERY hard to beleive, as that would mean that just about EVERY owner of an AMG has signed up for it

They just don't build that many of them for me to believe that EVERYONE is in on this.

How about a role call here on MBWORLD?

Wait a minute, I'll start it

stevebez

Only one winner in these class action suits and thats the lawyers....

You see the last one which was "won" by the class action ended with MB having to pay Attorney costs of $6.25Million, and the claimants got vouchers to claim against new MB purchases, or cash equivalent... although these amounts are not specified.

$6.25Mio you got to be sh`ttng me ...

And 30,000 in the class action ... do me a favour... I doubt MB have built 5000 6.3 engines since they came out....

If MB have sold 30,000 6.3 cars .. thats a total revenue of ~3.6 billion $ .... FFS

lawguy

You don't sign up to be in a class. If the Court reviews the evidence and finds the case meets the requirements for a class action, then members are automatically "in" unless they opt out.

That bing said, 30,000 sounds crazy high. Guessing a potential class of 3,000 is more accurate, but I don't know the facts.

Pushing_Tin

That's your opinion, certainly many class action suits have benefited consumers and they spectre of a class action suit helps keep giant corportations somewhat honest.

And MB sold over 402,000 cars last year alone, and we are talking 6.3 engines from 2007-2011 so do the math.

Pushing_Tin

Okay, I just called the lead attorney to verify the numbers. There isn't an exact number of people in the class, but they estimate that 30,000 cars with the M156 engine are affected.

sack5000

The engines are fine, yes they make a slightly rough noise at start up but the noise is gone almost immediately. Start a Veyron cold and listen to it then compare it to the engine sound when warmed up a bit. All engines begin to purr once they are warmed up........

Come on guys, just keep your car under warranty and forget about it (fu get a bout it).

I like the comment about the lawyers the best in Post #82, they are true sharks and don't leave much once they have eaten.

moosejaw

Can anyone explain why the plaintiff had to pay $4,900 bucks for a repair that should have been covered by warranty?
Then the place that fixed it low balled him when he tried to trade in bc they knew of the issue.

stevebez

Yes it sure is, and remains so.

Erin Brokovitch portrayed one example and I am sure there are others, but there seems a disproportionate remuneration heading to the lawyers - in my opinion.

Clearly as we have now seen they dont have 30,000 litigants but around 30,000 maximum possible. AMG sold approx 132,000 cars over this period (they did 24,200 in 08 and 20,300 in 07)... so 30,000 in this context is plausible.

Pushing_Tin

Look, let's try to stay on topic here and not fill this thread with needless blather. If you want to create a separate thread to complain about lawsuits there are ample places for you to do that.

lawguy

Everyone loves to diss lawyers....until they need one.

stevebez

@lawguy Gee what a surprise... Its no different to how everyone likes bashing bankers...

So suck it up... !

@Pushing_Tin...

When they make you a moderator... ?

If you don't like my "needless blather" dont read it. I think my post is very relevant to this thread.

My comments stemmed from the claim that 30,000 parties are involved in the class action suit, which I said was bogus, and I was right FWIW.

Also it annoys me in these action cases where all the lawyers are after is money for themselves and the actual affected parties don't get a fair portion of the awards given. What is it normally 50:50 ?

You think the lawyers would give a rats about this if the company they were suing wasnt some mulitmillion multinational. Its hilarious how people try and portray lawyers in these cases as the white knights in shining armour taking on the big guys saving the little guys.

Anyhow... good luck with your case everyone.

Pushing_Tin

There are about 30,000 people in the class, FWIW.

It has nothing to do with being a moderator. Could you have a little, just a little class and maturity and not fill a useful thread with your opinion which lends NOTHING to the topic at hand? Again, if you want to rant and rave please start a thread elsewhere and flame away. If you have some personal comments for me, just man up and PM me.

stevebez

Omg .... Class and maturity? Phew thanks for the life skills lessons.

What's living in the UK got to do with anything? Does that not entitle me to an opinion?

Why should I PM you anyway I got nothing to say to you personally ... You seem to be the only one who has an issue with my opinion... PM me if you feel the need.

Again, lawyers get paid to much in these actions and if you think there are 30,000 parties to the complaint fine. I still believe in what I said regardless ...

You will be relieved that I'm done in this thread

Good luck.

AgSilver

So, if these "mulitmillion multinational" had no fear of retribution or accountability, what do you suppose your recourse would be? Now I am not a lawyer, and I agree with you complety that in the end, the parties to a class action may not end up with the remedy they were seeking, however, the lawyer or law firm that takes on an action against a "mulitmillion multinational" faces extraordinary expenses and usually years of litigating against an adversary with unlimited resources and with absolutely no guarantee as to the final outcome. For myself, as an individual, I could not afford to do this. So, when somebody is willing to advocate for us and you and I do not have to face the inherent risks associated with litigation, I have no problem voicing my appreciation for all that they do.

sack5000

You really have no clue what is going on in this forum. We all have the right to opinions and if you want to PM someone, PM the lawyers and tell them they are stupid. All they are able to do is cause trouble when trouble doesn't exist.

I agree with Post #91 and remind you that your youth and inexperience is not backed up with any facts.

Let's start with the claim you make that there are 30,000 people involved, and yes start with that because AMG 63 engines made are not even close to that. come on bud, let's discuss it or start another thread and complain there, LOL.

Pushing_Tin

There are 30,000 cars possibly affected, this was already established as fact. All I am trying to do IN THIS THREAD, is keep the needless bull****ting down and stick to facts. When it gets filled with a bunch of useless drivel it does nothing for people looking for facts or legitimate updates. Can you grasp that concept?

I'm done trying to help out anybody else. If anybody wants an update feel free to PM me.

outrun

well....this thread went from informational to ultra gay.

Katizzo

Subscribed

alextaylor29

So I guess I'll pass on going to a CLS63 or E63 and maybe just stick with a CLS55 until the TT motors come down in price a bit. The 55 motors are bullet proof except for the cylinder #8 fuel issue after extensive modding. The 6.3L motors seem to go boom on their own as they can't be modded that heavily.

Even under warranty why would I risk owning one as the downtime/fighting with MB would be significant.

CLS55 here I come.

Great thread by the way!

Alex

Meeyatch1

So what came of this suit? Also, as someone who puts a ton of miles on their E63 (almost to 80k miles now), and whose extended warranty is up at 84k miles, is there anything that I can push to have updated on my car as part of a TSB or from this suit?