College thoughts! E55 and E39 M5 pondering..
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Old 528 rebadged to M5 would be a great campus beater, and about all a student could afford. Get ready for dings all over, parking rash, party people throwing up inside and outside, and the guy that hates you and slashes you tires and keys the sides.
If you don't know what kind of car you want, you are not ready for college.
If you don't know what kind of car you want, you are not ready for college.
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I assume the OP is in college currently AND his father or so is purchasing his car and not himself. Nice hard work there OP.
Get neither. From your posts and behavior, please don't give either the BMW M guys or the AMG guys a bad rep.
Ride the bus and/or keep your current BMW 335d and 5 series. Aren't they good enough already for you in school?
And the E60 M5 is more than a match easily on the highway versus any stock 55k. How do I know? I have both. The E39 M5 is still a great even today to have and drive.
Get neither. From your posts and behavior, please don't give either the BMW M guys or the AMG guys a bad rep.
Ride the bus and/or keep your current BMW 335d and 5 series. Aren't they good enough already for you in school?
And the E60 M5 is more than a match easily on the highway versus any stock 55k. How do I know? I have both. The E39 M5 is still a great even today to have and drive.
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Had to sleep on the this one but the choice is clear...
The only thing you should be concerned about in college is TNA.
..... And maybe hitting some books.
The only thing you should be concerned about in college is TNA.
..... And maybe hitting some books.
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Is this a joke
It's the E55 NO QUESTION, the E39 M5 is an amazing car but it's outdated design and lack of power make it much inferior to the E55. The auto in the E55 will make daily driving a breeze, believe me as much as it's fun to drive a manual, start stop situations can become irritating. I owned the E39 M5 when first came out, it was an amazing car and I don't regret it one bit however it has become old. As for the interior, also NO COMPETITION, the E55 has one of the best looking interior for a luxury sedan, it's a warm and nice place to be unlike the E60 M5s interior. The E39 M5s interior is also nice but not as much as the E55. You also have the power, the potential for more power and the looks. Like I said, the E39 M5 is outdated design, the E55 can be face-lifted to the E63 W211 and that car can pass off as a 2011 model to a person who doesn't know the E Class very well. One more thing....at the end of the day, it's a Mercedes and I'm sorry to BMW fans but the luxury and prestige king is still Mercedes, BMWs may be sportier but the symbol for the luxury car is MERCEDES-BENZ ![drive](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/driving.gif)
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Merc is definitely more luxury/comfort, BMW's priority is more sport oriented.
i had both cars -- my M5 was modded and it still got toasted by my OEM E55 --- now the E55 is modded and it would be a slaughter ---
On the other note -- I love the M5 -- great car - I cant complain -- If money is not an issue / repairs --- then I would go with the E55.
Also, E55 is way easier and cheaper to Mod -- if your type of person who gets the itch.
On the other note -- I love the M5 -- great car - I cant complain -- If money is not an issue / repairs --- then I would go with the E55.
Also, E55 is way easier and cheaper to Mod -- if your type of person who gets the itch.
M5 bolt ons are about $7-8k for full exhaust & headers + tune and about a 60hp gain. There are a couple SC kits coming out that seems pretty exciting though. 550hp, 630hp, and 700+hp
I just know a few for the E55 via Renntech. With the price difference of the E39 to E55, won't have a lot of mod money if I go E55..
I have only seen ONE BMW M5 with leather on the dash, and I believe it's a special edition 2003 model or something like that. They don't normally come with interiors like this.
The E39 M5, while nice, looks like an OLD car. Even while it was being sold it looked outdated inside and out. It's a performer no doubt but it looks 10 years older than an 8 year old E55.
The E39 M5, while nice, looks like an OLD car. Even while it was being sold it looked outdated inside and out. It's a performer no doubt but it looks 10 years older than an 8 year old E55.
As per the exterior, looks old yes but at the same time pretty classy. Not as elegant or near as new looking as the E55 but still looks good. But I like as it ages the E39 will hold onto its looks (as classic "timeless" lines) more than the W211 when the next gen comes out. I think most of the aged BMW's look better than most of the aged Mercs. Just one's opinion..
I assume the OP is in college currently AND his father or so is purchasing his car and not himself. Nice hard work there OP.
Get neither. From your posts and behavior, please don't give either the BMW M guys or the AMG guys a bad rep.
Ride the bus and/or keep your current BMW 335d and 5 series. Aren't they good enough already for you in school?
And the E60 M5 is more than a match easily on the highway versus any stock 55k. How do I know? I have both. The E39 M5 is still a great even today to have and drive.
Get neither. From your posts and behavior, please don't give either the BMW M guys or the AMG guys a bad rep.
Ride the bus and/or keep your current BMW 335d and 5 series. Aren't they good enough already for you in school?
And the E60 M5 is more than a match easily on the highway versus any stock 55k. How do I know? I have both. The E39 M5 is still a great even today to have and drive.
I've put too many miles on the 335d and I'll be trading the 5 + cash for this next car. I just want something nicer & faster.
That's part of my original question. Being on campus with everything near, I rarely use the highway besides a trip to a nearby city every couple of months. I also like to throw the current bimmers around this nearby Mt. Lemmon
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I feel like we're being trolled. An 01-03 E39 M5 with 60-80k will be a rat. A good friend has one, it's always in the shop.
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Another *** clown finds our boards. I think what you need is a Lotus Esprit for college you douche. PAWNED FTW!
I would be looking at 03-04s E55's with 60-80k miles and about the same for the E39. 01-03 60-80k miles.
Which would be better for the college atmosphere in your opinions? Lots of city driving, and it's not the cost of the maintenance so much as the occurrence of it. I don't want to have it in the shop when I need to use it. Im aware of the reliability but not if it all goes around the same time or just piece by piece over time with lots of trip to dealer/indy
I know the E55 is hella faster but a complete pig otherwise.. also has the slight feminine styling
People say the interior is much nicer in the E55 but I have been in a reg E and only thing that felt better were the seats..
The E39 m5 has leather stitched dash, lower dash, doors, etc. not to mention the same alcantara headliner and whatnot
Which would be better for the college atmosphere in your opinions? Lots of city driving, and it's not the cost of the maintenance so much as the occurrence of it. I don't want to have it in the shop when I need to use it. Im aware of the reliability but not if it all goes around the same time or just piece by piece over time with lots of trip to dealer/indy
I know the E55 is hella faster but a complete pig otherwise.. also has the slight feminine styling
People say the interior is much nicer in the E55 but I have been in a reg E and only thing that felt better were the seats..
The E39 m5 has leather stitched dash, lower dash, doors, etc. not to mention the same alcantara headliner and whatnot
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Ahh sorry to disappoint, I'll buying the next one.. Just won't be paying for gas and maintenance. I still wouldn't want to get a car that will need more than $2500/yr in maint which I hear is around, if not less than, what the E55 does.
I've put too many miles on the 335d and I'll be trading the 5 + cash for this next car. I just want something nicer & faster.
I've put too many miles on the 335d and I'll be trading the 5 + cash for this next car. I just want something nicer & faster.
I got a better idea buddy. How about a BRIGHT ORANGE Lotus Elise or something like that? It's faster in terms of tracking than your 335d and "nicer" in a sense that it's a Lotus and not as common as a BMW 3 series.
And it attracts attention. Mod the exhaust/engine so you can rev it all you want. Sound good? And if you don't rev it or beat it up as much, maintence should be down. Hopefully. Won't go over your "2500/year bucks" maitenance budget. Shouldn't I mean.
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wow, this forum has gone down hill...and i'm not talking about the op!
you can't even compare the interior on a regular e to an e55!
you can't even compare the interior on a regular e to an e55!
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I just bought an 04 E55 and dropped $4k on a 4yr warranty. I'm hoping I won't need it but a 7 year old car going into the shop is a likely reality. If you are worried about reliability why are you looking at such old cars? Will you be buying a warranty?
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I had E39 M5 (like many others BMWs) in the past for 4 years, so beleave me i have known him inside out. That said , and keep in mind that i have E55 for over a year now, i can tell you if E55 is pig for you, then E39 M5 is pig just the same. It does not corner better then E55, it does not give any more sportier filling then in E55 and it is a HELL lot slower then E55 (many of E39 M5 doesnt even have stated 400 hp!!!). On top of that i get BETTER millage in E55. And not even to mention that brakes were constantly overheating on M5, MAFs and clutches are on the monthly list to swap (6 months to be precise for me) and not forget that 90% of E39 M5 engines (S62) have oil consumption of more then 1 liter / 1000 km.
For me (who actualy have and do own them both) it is not even the think which one is better.
But like you said, stiching on the dashboard is the key....
Like many others have said to you-go and buy M5 and enjoy stiching and stay away from E55 world. You dont deserve it.
EDIT: Dont relay on M5board members (M5E39 owners) words about how exelent M5 E39 is. Most of them are just trying to convince themselve that they have not make life mistake when they buy it. Reality is something different. So, you should speak with someone like me who actualy own both of them and is not biased to one side. That man will give you competent info, not M5board members (E39 M5 owners).
For me (who actualy have and do own them both) it is not even the think which one is better.
But like you said, stiching on the dashboard is the key....
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EDIT: Dont relay on M5board members (M5E39 owners) words about how exelent M5 E39 is. Most of them are just trying to convince themselve that they have not make life mistake when they buy it. Reality is something different. So, you should speak with someone like me who actualy own both of them and is not biased to one side. That man will give you competent info, not M5board members (E39 M5 owners).
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Good Answer Snogard.
OP is a ******, who probably can't even use the E55 to it's abilities.
Yesterday a friend of a friend who I met was pushing a 328 loaner because his car was in the shop out-drove the e92 m3 in the twisties, he was one of the best BMW drivers I've seen so far pushing the car to it's limits, power-sliding turns etc.
Most of these clowns don't know how to drive.
OP is a ******, who probably can't even use the E55 to it's abilities.
Yesterday a friend of a friend who I met was pushing a 328 loaner because his car was in the shop out-drove the e92 m3 in the twisties, he was one of the best BMW drivers I've seen so far pushing the car to it's limits, power-sliding turns etc.
Most of these clowns don't know how to drive.
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I would be looking at 03-04s E55's with 60-80k miles and about the same for the E39. 01-03 60-80k miles.
Which would be better for the college atmosphere in your opinions? Lots of city driving, and it's not the cost of the maintenance so much as the occurrence of it. I don't want to have it in the shop when I need to use it. Im aware of the reliability but not if it all goes around the same time or just piece by piece over time with lots of trip to dealer/indy
I know the E55 is hella faster but a complete pig otherwise.. also has the slight feminine styling
People say the interior is much nicer in the E55 but I have been in a reg E and only thing that felt better were the seats..
The E39 m5 has leather stitched dash, lower dash, doors, etc. not to mention the same alcantara headliner and whatnot
Which would be better for the college atmosphere in your opinions? Lots of city driving, and it's not the cost of the maintenance so much as the occurrence of it. I don't want to have it in the shop when I need to use it. Im aware of the reliability but not if it all goes around the same time or just piece by piece over time with lots of trip to dealer/indy
I know the E55 is hella faster but a complete pig otherwise.. also has the slight feminine styling
People say the interior is much nicer in the E55 but I have been in a reg E and only thing that felt better were the seats..
The E39 m5 has leather stitched dash, lower dash, doors, etc. not to mention the same alcantara headliner and whatnot
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The only M5 that has leather dash are the ones with extended leather package. But make sure you find one of those because I hear the leather dash and stitching is good for 50hp.
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Not paying for gas or maintenance? At all? Nothing?
I got a better idea buddy. How about a BRIGHT ORANGE Lotus Elise or something like that? It's faster in terms of tracking than your 335d and "nicer" in a sense that it's a Lotus and not as common as a BMW 3 series.
And it attracts attention. Mod the exhaust/engine so you can rev it all you want. Sound good? And if you don't rev it or beat it up as much, maintence should be down. Hopefully. Won't go over your "2500/year bucks" maitenance budget. Shouldn't I mean.
I got a better idea buddy. How about a BRIGHT ORANGE Lotus Elise or something like that? It's faster in terms of tracking than your 335d and "nicer" in a sense that it's a Lotus and not as common as a BMW 3 series.
And it attracts attention. Mod the exhaust/engine so you can rev it all you want. Sound good? And if you don't rev it or beat it up as much, maintence should be down. Hopefully. Won't go over your "2500/year bucks" maitenance budget. Shouldn't I mean.
I had E39 M5 (like many others BMWs) in the past for 4 years, so beleave me i have known him inside out. That said , and keep in mind that i have E55 for over a year now, i can tell you if E55 is pig for you, then E39 M5 is pig just the same. It does not corner better then E55, it does not give any more sportier filling then in E55 and it is a HELL lot slower then E55 (many of E39 M5 doesnt even have stated 400 hp!!!). On top of that i get BETTER millage in E55. And not even to mention that brakes were constantly overheating on M5, MAFs and clutches are on the monthly list to swap (6 months to be precise for me) and not forget that 90% of E39 M5 engines (S62) have oil consumption of more then 1 liter / 1000 km.
For me (who actualy have and do own them both) it is not even the think which one is better.
But like you said, stiching on the dashboard is the key....
Like many others have said to you-go and buy M5 and enjoy stiching and stay away from E55 world. You dont deserve it.
EDIT: Dont relay on M5board members (M5E39 owners) words about how exelent M5 E39 is. Most of them are just trying to convince themselve that they have not make life mistake when they buy it. Reality is something different. So, you should speak with someone like me who actualy own both of them and is not biased to one side. That man will give you competent info, not M5board members (E39 M5 owners).
For me (who actualy have and do own them both) it is not even the think which one is better.
But like you said, stiching on the dashboard is the key....
![bow](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/bowdown.gif)
EDIT: Dont relay on M5board members (M5E39 owners) words about how exelent M5 E39 is. Most of them are just trying to convince themselve that they have not make life mistake when they buy it. Reality is something different. So, you should speak with someone like me who actualy own both of them and is not biased to one side. That man will give you competent info, not M5board members (E39 M5 owners).
You guys grab a word I say and take it and run. I was questioning the level of luxury in the E55 cause it didn't have a leather dash, mot that it was anything near of a deciding factor.
Good Answer Snogard.
OP is a ******, who probably can't even use the E55 to it's abilities.
Yesterday a friend of a friend who I met was pushing a 328 loaner because his car was in the shop out-drove the e92 m3 in the twisties, he was one of the best BMW drivers I've seen so far pushing the car to it's limits, power-sliding turns etc.
Most of these clowns don't know how to drive.
OP is a ******, who probably can't even use the E55 to it's abilities.
Yesterday a friend of a friend who I met was pushing a 328 loaner because his car was in the shop out-drove the e92 m3 in the twisties, he was one of the best BMW drivers I've seen so far pushing the car to it's limits, power-sliding turns etc.
Most of these clowns don't know how to drive.
I have a pretty good grasp of driving and just finished a 4 door racing course so that has kind of inspired me to go for the performance sedans.
Driver is the best mod. Anybody catch the CTSV challenger where the kid in the E92 M3 beat everyone who was driving the V, beat them quite significantly IIRC.
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Listen kid, don't listen to anyone telling you not to buy an expensive car when you're young, buy what you can afford so even if you're 17 and you can afford a Veyron, buy it. Age doesn't really matter and most people telling you not to buy an expensive car when young is people who are older and have a certain jealousy, just look at that kid Justin Bieber, people hate him for driving a Ferrari and calling him a "******" and a "queer" for one simple reason, they can't afford one and are jealous such a young guy is driving it and to be honest there's nothing wrong with that. It's kind of sad to see people with their own kids being jealous of a teenager. If he can afford it more power to him and if you can afford the car you want then so be it.
Moving on. The E39 M5 is NO match for the E55. As for the E55 being feminine, that's BS and an E63 W211 facelift conversion would make it even less girly, which it is not by the tiniest amount. The E55 is better in every single way, the interior, the daily comfort, the modding potential and the cost effectiveness of the modifications, the looks, the power and torque. I adore the old M5 but I'm sorry to say it's just inferior. The only way I'd own one is with conjunction with the E55 (if I could afford to own 4+ cars) as to drive it on occasion as a classic but if you can only have one then it's no competition.
Try to find a place to park or store the car as not to be damaged by jealous or stupid college kids/skateboarders. Also don't listen to M5Board, just like Snogard said, they're trying to convince themselves the M5 is better but just look at the facts, look at the figures and go for a test drive. Believe me, I have nothing to gain from telling you this but there is NO CHANCE for the M5 to be superior. You can supercharge it and still be beaten by a stock E55 let alone an E55 with 10-12k mods which would molest the M5 and you'd go to jail for rape. The E55 is more in the league of supercars when it comes to a highly modified one in a straight line, sure it's heavy and not as nimble as a Ferrari but it's actually not bad on the street, it feels solid and with the Airmatic in the stiffest settings it holds its own. I think the car falls short on the track where the brakes start to fade, the tires struggle for grip from the weight and the engine gets heat soaked but chances are it won't ever make it to a closed racing course so you'll be alright.
Here's some videos to help you decide. These aren't stock E55 though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWPoQ8YB84o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UV-drd9fag
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVsetfAYaxg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FJ-ngpJF_U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTttFKHOyTs
Moving on. The E39 M5 is NO match for the E55. As for the E55 being feminine, that's BS and an E63 W211 facelift conversion would make it even less girly, which it is not by the tiniest amount. The E55 is better in every single way, the interior, the daily comfort, the modding potential and the cost effectiveness of the modifications, the looks, the power and torque. I adore the old M5 but I'm sorry to say it's just inferior. The only way I'd own one is with conjunction with the E55 (if I could afford to own 4+ cars) as to drive it on occasion as a classic but if you can only have one then it's no competition.
Try to find a place to park or store the car as not to be damaged by jealous or stupid college kids/skateboarders. Also don't listen to M5Board, just like Snogard said, they're trying to convince themselves the M5 is better but just look at the facts, look at the figures and go for a test drive. Believe me, I have nothing to gain from telling you this but there is NO CHANCE for the M5 to be superior. You can supercharge it and still be beaten by a stock E55 let alone an E55 with 10-12k mods which would molest the M5 and you'd go to jail for rape. The E55 is more in the league of supercars when it comes to a highly modified one in a straight line, sure it's heavy and not as nimble as a Ferrari but it's actually not bad on the street, it feels solid and with the Airmatic in the stiffest settings it holds its own. I think the car falls short on the track where the brakes start to fade, the tires struggle for grip from the weight and the engine gets heat soaked but chances are it won't ever make it to a closed racing course so you'll be alright.
Here's some videos to help you decide. These aren't stock E55 though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWPoQ8YB84o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UV-drd9fag
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVsetfAYaxg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FJ-ngpJF_U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTttFKHOyTs
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Bright Orange Lotus Elise and revving its engine out on college campus? Take it bro.
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Didn't get the gist of my post huh? that's okay I didn't expect you too. The sole reason why I recommended a Lotus Elise bright orange for you wasn't because you like to "tear up the moutain twisties and roads". It's because it can get the most attention for you which sounds better with the way you act and behave.
Bright Orange Lotus Elise and revving its engine out on college campus? Take it bro.
Bright Orange Lotus Elise and revving its engine out on college campus? Take it bro.
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I enjoy driving very much hence my worry of having the car crap out often or a pig in turns. Going to drive em and compare
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Just a little lightheartedness towards someone who made a useless post, who must be pretty bored to venture into W211 land and do that..
Relax! I think you, sir, need a Jag..
Back on topic, this is what Im talking about with the E39 M5:
http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/att...k2941-copy.jpg
stitched leather everywhere you look
check out the glovebox and doors
http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/att...k2932-copy.jpg
Relax! I think you, sir, need a Jag..
Back on topic, this is what Im talking about with the E39 M5:
http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/att...k2941-copy.jpg
stitched leather everywhere you look
check out the glovebox and doors
http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/att...k2932-copy.jpg
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Good Answer Snogard.
OP is a ******, who probably can't even use the E55 to it's abilities.
Yesterday a friend of a friend who I met was pushing a 328 loaner because his car was in the shop out-drove the e92 m3 in the twisties, he was one of the best BMW drivers I've seen so far pushing the car to it's limits, power-sliding turns etc.
Most of these clowns don't know how to drive.
OP is a ******, who probably can't even use the E55 to it's abilities.
Yesterday a friend of a friend who I met was pushing a 328 loaner because his car was in the shop out-drove the e92 m3 in the twisties, he was one of the best BMW drivers I've seen so far pushing the car to it's limits, power-sliding turns etc.
Most of these clowns don't know how to drive.