For those running a 180, is a HE and pump enough cooling?
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For those running a 180, is a HE and pump enough cooling?
I live in Maryland where the heat and humidity take over and it gets hot, but winters are/can be brutally cold. The summer nights usually get cooler, in the 80s.
I am wondering if an aftermarket HE and pump is good enough for cooling? I am not trying to heatsoak after a 1/2 throttle run in the middle of summer. Or even turn the car into a slug after one WOT sprint from 0-80.
I'm curious for those running the 180 in hot climates in the summer or year round, what cooling do you have and how consistent is your car to run a 180 with your cooling mods?
I am on the fence between going with a 172 and 180, and the ONLY reason holding me back from the 180 is I'm afraid it'll heatsoak too quickly and the car will be slow as hell in the summer , but a BEAST in the winter.
I'd appreciate any feedback!
I am wondering if an aftermarket HE and pump is good enough for cooling? I am not trying to heatsoak after a 1/2 throttle run in the middle of summer. Or even turn the car into a slug after one WOT sprint from 0-80.
I'm curious for those running the 180 in hot climates in the summer or year round, what cooling do you have and how consistent is your car to run a 180 with your cooling mods?
I am on the fence between going with a 172 and 180, and the ONLY reason holding me back from the 180 is I'm afraid it'll heatsoak too quickly and the car will be slow as hell in the summer , but a BEAST in the winter.
I'd appreciate any feedback!
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i have a 168 and no problems in the vegas heat even after multiple runs with OEM cooling--- I have since upgraded the cooling because i wanted the shiny HE ---
i have seen a well modded 180 die after racing me a few times --- So, I would go with a 172 or 175.... if I were to do it over again
i have seen a well modded 180 die after racing me a few times --- So, I would go with a 172 or 175.... if I were to do it over again
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Oh man, first two posts are completely conflicting! 
Oh what to do, what to do!
I don't track my cars at all. Just the few WOT runs here and there on a freeway entrance ramp or open road.
The decision between a 172 and 180 is difficult!
Oh what to do, what to do!
I don't track my cars at all. Just the few WOT runs here and there on a freeway entrance ramp or open road.
The decision between a 172 and 180 is difficult!
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My car has 180 pulley, Eurocharged heat exchanger, cm30 pump and a small separated cooling tank for the cooling sytem. I live in Florida where it is hot all the time damn near and to make it worse it is always humid too. You can definitely feel the car die off after more than one run even with this stuff done but then with the weather even at 70 instead of the mid 80s or in the 90s you can feel the car get more powerful and then of course with even colder you get more and more happy.
I am going to put in a bigger tank soon and see how that helps out but if you live in weather that is hot often you will certainly suffer with a 180 even with a better pump and heat exchanger in my case. It is fine for quick little blasts but if you are trying to run through several gears (say starting at 40 and going to 120) you will feel the car stop pulling as hard once you get up over 100). Weather in Maryland is 100% better year round than down here though, I know people who live around there and while I am suffering in high 80s or 90s part of the year here, it is like high 60s there.
For example I don't know where you live in Maryland but right now it is 71 in Ocean City, 77 in Baltimore and 88 here in Florida with a "feels like" of 100 with the humidity and whatever else factored in.
You should be fine because even though you say it gets hot there you aren't experiencing it for long periods of time and most of the time are much cooler than places in the south. Then to go further if you are just wanting to pull out of a side road and pound it to 70mph you will be fine too, it is just once you start trying to go from 0 to 100+ you will feel the heat of the 180 slowing you down.
I am going to put in a bigger tank soon and see how that helps out but if you live in weather that is hot often you will certainly suffer with a 180 even with a better pump and heat exchanger in my case. It is fine for quick little blasts but if you are trying to run through several gears (say starting at 40 and going to 120) you will feel the car stop pulling as hard once you get up over 100). Weather in Maryland is 100% better year round than down here though, I know people who live around there and while I am suffering in high 80s or 90s part of the year here, it is like high 60s there.
For example I don't know where you live in Maryland but right now it is 71 in Ocean City, 77 in Baltimore and 88 here in Florida with a "feels like" of 100 with the humidity and whatever else factored in.
You should be fine because even though you say it gets hot there you aren't experiencing it for long periods of time and most of the time are much cooler than places in the south. Then to go further if you are just wanting to pull out of a side road and pound it to 70mph you will be fine too, it is just once you start trying to go from 0 to 100+ you will feel the heat of the 180 slowing you down.
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Southern Cali chiming in here. 180mm, H/E, 030 pump. No issues. Ran a Turbo Stang in 90 weather back to back 3 or 4 times, smoked him each time. Pulled hard on him each time. IAT's looked good but started to creep. But for regular street driving with the occasional a-s-s kicking, you will not have an issue. Larger than 180mm unless your in cool weather might be an issue. Might.... I'm moving on to a 185 or 190 soon (just waiting for a good price) but with a better cooling setup.
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I'm just worried for the summer here,... the car will die on a very hot day and will feel sluggish the rest of the ride home or just around town after one strong WOT run
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My car has 180 pulley, Eurocharged heat exchanger, cm30 pump and a small separated cooling tank for the cooling sytem. I live in Florida where it is hot all the time damn near and to make it worse it is always humid too. You can definitely feel the car die off after more than one run even with this stuff done but then with the weather even at 70 instead of the mid 80s or in the 90s you can feel the car get more powerful and then of course with even colder you get more and more happy.
I am going to put in a bigger tank soon and see how that helps out but if you live in weather that is hot often you will certainly suffer with a 180 even with a better pump and heat exchanger in my case. It is fine for quick little blasts but if you are trying to run through several gears (say starting at 40 and going to 120) you will feel the car stop pulling as hard once you get up over 100). Weather in Maryland is 100% better year round than down here though, I know people who live around there and while I am suffering in high 80s or 90s part of the year here, it is like high 60s there.
For example I don't know where you live in Maryland but right now it is 71 in Ocean City, 77 in Baltimore and 88 here in Florida with a "feels like" of 100 with the humidity and whatever else factored in.
You should be fine because even though you say it gets hot there you aren't experiencing it for long periods of time and most of the time are much cooler than places in the south. Then to go further if you are just wanting to pull out of a side road and pound it to 70mph you will be fine too, it is just once you start trying to go from 0 to 100+ you will feel the heat of the 180 slowing you down.
I am going to put in a bigger tank soon and see how that helps out but if you live in weather that is hot often you will certainly suffer with a 180 even with a better pump and heat exchanger in my case. It is fine for quick little blasts but if you are trying to run through several gears (say starting at 40 and going to 120) you will feel the car stop pulling as hard once you get up over 100). Weather in Maryland is 100% better year round than down here though, I know people who live around there and while I am suffering in high 80s or 90s part of the year here, it is like high 60s there.
For example I don't know where you live in Maryland but right now it is 71 in Ocean City, 77 in Baltimore and 88 here in Florida with a "feels like" of 100 with the humidity and whatever else factored in.
You should be fine because even though you say it gets hot there you aren't experiencing it for long periods of time and most of the time are much cooler than places in the south. Then to go further if you are just wanting to pull out of a side road and pound it to 70mph you will be fine too, it is just once you start trying to go from 0 to 100+ you will feel the heat of the 180 slowing you down.
Other than that, I drive like a granny for the most part!
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