W211 AMG Discuss the W211 AMG's such as the E55 and the E63

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Old Oct 26, 2011 | 04:44 PM
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Just curious how much power one would have to put down to pull on my stock '04 from a roll?

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Old Oct 26, 2011 | 04:50 PM
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Probably like 983 fwhp. Just run the guy for $500 on a closed road and see what distance you put on him.
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Old Oct 26, 2011 | 04:51 PM
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Probably like 983 fwhp. Just run the guy for $500 on a closed road and see what distance you put on him.
Lol it's pretty modified. Said he doesn't make close to what I do. I guess i'll run him for $50. Lol
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Old Oct 26, 2011 | 04:54 PM
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Probably about 360whp, the car weighs damn near half as much as an E55.
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Old Oct 26, 2011 | 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Mantooth
Just curious how much power one would have to put down to pull on my stock '04 from a roll?

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It depends. I have owned a half a dozen of these things.

Stock turbo SRT-4s can yield over 300whp with bolt ons. I was trapping 107 with 244whp.

A friend of mine has a Mopar stage 3 Turbo'ed car, and he is running 11.50's@122+. He put down 340whp(mustang) on E85.

Stage 3s are no slouch, I never had mine at the track, but even on pump, I do believe it would walk my CLK55.

But to answer your question, I would say if it is pushing over 300whp, it has a chance to walk you. Stock, they put down about 220whp.

Do you know what turbo it has?
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Old Oct 26, 2011 | 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by BlkE55K
Probably like 983 fwhp. Just run the guy for $500 on a closed road and see what distance you put on him.
LMAO. I played with one of those a couple of days ago. He started it and got smoked. He was so mad, that he drove by and gave me the bird. Now he knows what AMG stands for.lol
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Old Oct 26, 2011 | 05:01 PM
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The thing about doing a roll is it is 50/50 on if they know to break boost their car or not when running a bigger sized turbo on the small engines so the slight lag will give an advantage for the E55 to shoot out and then he would need to have a good amount of power to be able to catch back up and pass.
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Old Oct 26, 2011 | 05:13 PM
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Apparently not dyno tuned and he's estimating 315whp(I'm going to guess he's BSing and it's going to have a pretty larger turbo. I want to find out for $50. lol

Originally Posted by urbamworm
The thing about doing a roll is it is 50/50 on if they know to break boost their car or not when running a bigger sized turbo on the small engines so the slight lag will give an advantage for the E55 to shoot out and then he would need to have a good amount of power to be able to catch back up and pass.
Yep, I was thinking that. Surely he won't want to go from a stop. It's going to be in the 40s out...lol. I shouldn't have a problem if he can't hook, but I really hope he does so it will be worthwhile.
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Old Oct 26, 2011 | 05:18 PM
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(I'm going to guess he's BSing and it's going to have a pretty larger turbo. I want to find out for $50. lol
Exactly. Ever notice the ones that are running 9s are always " Boy I dunnoooooo, I can't imagine it EVER would beat your 55"

Race him for 50 and have some fun. He walks ya.....who cares.

Just don't ricer flyby. You lose, you lose. That's that.
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Old Oct 26, 2011 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Mantooth
Just curious how much power one would have to put down to pull on my stock '04 from a roll?

All opinions welcomed.
ask him what turbo he is running then you can pretty much figure out what kit he's running and determine how much to bet if any at all because quite a few of those SRT neons run under 12 sec 1/4's ... seems like the 50 trim on the srt's is pretty stout.... I raced one when i was still stage 3 in my audi and he was pretty much one car length behind me the whole time... only think that allowed me to really to jump ahead was his lag on big turbo
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Old Oct 26, 2011 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Jakpro1
Exactly. Ever notice the ones that are running 9s are always " Boy I dunnoooooo, I can't imagine it EVER would beat your 55"

Race him for 50 and have some fun. He walks ya.....who cares.

Just don't ricer flyby. You lose, you lose. That's that.
Haha, definitely not going to do that. I'll keep you guys posted.
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Old Oct 26, 2011 | 05:26 PM
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The skittles are like evos, they are usually never stock, and always seem to have a big bite. GL mang
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Old Oct 26, 2011 | 06:00 PM
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no matter what stage these guys claim out here, i've never seen one out of the 13's at our local track. i know they can be quicker than that so i suspect the ones i've seen may have been driver deficient...which doesn't surprise me since most of the srt4 guys i've tried to talk to at the track were total db's. i don't think there's an srt4 on the street that i'd ever worry about losing to.
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Old Oct 26, 2011 | 08:48 PM
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Old Oct 26, 2011 | 09:14 PM
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The skittles are like evos, they are usually never stock, and always seem to have a big bite. GL mang
This is probably the truest statement in this thread.

If a guy in that car wants to race you, you will probably lose.
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Old Oct 26, 2011 | 09:36 PM
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I might know a tiny bit about this sorta thing,

So all you got to do is ask what speed roll he wants to go from, If he say's 60+ your in trouble If he say he dosent care, gives you the choice or says 30 is good then you should murder him.

I had a stock turbo SRT4 with all the bolt on mods and it ran low 12's but very traction limited
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Old Oct 26, 2011 | 11:08 PM
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my friend had an AGP stage 4 putting down 400+whp but he could never get good traction. i think the best time he ran was mid 11's. i doubt that guy is running the same but these things can get up if serious like any other car with money into it.
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Ask if he can roll down his rear windows.....................
and then watch him in disbelief as he has to get out of the car to do it.
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Ask if he can roll down his rear windows.....................
and then watch him in disbelief as he has to get out of the car to do it.
I don't think there would be much disbelief. It's a neon. NEON. I don't care if they're fast.
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Ask if he can roll down his rear windows.....................
and then watch him in disbelief as he has to get out of the car to do it.
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Those cars can be made to be beasts. I've seen some at the track doing well. Good luck!
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Originally Posted by Cylinder Head
I don't think there would be much disbelief. It's a neon. NEON. I don't care if they're fast.
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