Slightly OT: F10 M5 Acceleration video posted
11-10-2011, 04:49 AM
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Slightly OT: F10 M5 Acceleration video posted
Look at it here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wzv2Bc4ylGY
Some preliminary figures (in KM/H , sorry i dont do MPH) from Motorsport
0-100km/h: 3.8s
0-160km/h: 7.7s
0-200km/h: 11.6s
0-250km/h: 18.8s
CLS63 PP (Autobild sportcars)
0-100km/h: 4.1s
0-160km/h: 8.4s
0-200km/h: 12.5s
Here is magazine data for my CLS55 for comparison
0-100: 4.7s
0-160: 10.6s
0-200: 15.4s
0-250: 24.0s
And here is
Whats most impressive is the 62.5mph-125mph time (similar to your US 60-130)
F10 M5 : 7.8s
CLS63 PP: 8.4s
CLS55 Stock: 10.7s
My CLS55 with seconday cats removed and race exhaust: 10.48s
So overall may be slightly quicker. We'll see how the M5 transmission handles tuning, from what i gather in the forum CLS's 7-speed slasher is doing ok with 650+HP
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wzv2Bc4ylGY
Some preliminary figures (in KM/H , sorry i dont do MPH) from Motorsport
0-100km/h: 3.8s
0-160km/h: 7.7s
0-200km/h: 11.6s
0-250km/h: 18.8s
CLS63 PP (Autobild sportcars)
0-100km/h: 4.1s
0-160km/h: 8.4s
0-200km/h: 12.5s
Here is magazine data for my CLS55 for comparison
0-100: 4.7s
0-160: 10.6s
0-200: 15.4s
0-250: 24.0s
And here is
Whats most impressive is the 62.5mph-125mph time (similar to your US 60-130)
F10 M5 : 7.8s
CLS63 PP: 8.4s
CLS55 Stock: 10.7s
My CLS55 with seconday cats removed and race exhaust: 10.48s
So overall may be slightly quicker. We'll see how the M5 transmission handles tuning, from what i gather in the forum CLS's 7-speed slasher is doing ok with 650+HP
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11-10-2011, 12:06 PM
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2 Seconds difference 0-160 is a few carlengths. 3 Seconds difference 0-200 is an eternity.
The F10 will dog a CLS63 if this is the case.
The F10 will dog a CLS63 if this is the case.
11-10-2011, 01:30 PM
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2 diff mags so the comparos are not equal... and of course its mag racing but since we are on the topic---
The latest Car and Driver has the F10 and CLSTT with PP
0-60 at 3.7 for the F10 and 3.8 for the CLS
0-100 at 8.3 for both
both have 122 traps in the quarter
F10 is faster to 150 by half a second though
but since we live in the real world- we know that the a non PP CLS with a tune by RT and soft launches runs 125 traps and 11.3 in the quarter.
The latest Car and Driver has the F10 and CLSTT with PP
0-60 at 3.7 for the F10 and 3.8 for the CLS
0-100 at 8.3 for both
both have 122 traps in the quarter
F10 is faster to 150 by half a second though
but since we live in the real world- we know that the a non PP CLS with a tune by RT and soft launches runs 125 traps and 11.3 in the quarter.
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complete list of 100-200 kph http://audisrs.com/archive/performan...__t_21089.html
7.8 seconds puts the M5 with the LP640.. a number somewhat questionable considering the M5 is down about 70 HP and some 600 lbs heavier
8.4 puts the CLS next to the 977TT (doesn't specify what generation probably pre-facelift) and the F430. Also puts it ahead of the SL65
7.8 seconds puts the M5 with the LP640.. a number somewhat questionable considering the M5 is down about 70 HP and some 600 lbs heavier
8.4 puts the CLS next to the 977TT (doesn't specify what generation probably pre-facelift) and the F430. Also puts it ahead of the SL65
11-11-2011, 01:14 AM
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They did. German magazine Auto Zeitung. M5 vs E63TT with performance package. M5 faster across the spectrum.
0-100km/h- 4.1 vs 4.2
0-160km/h- 8.2 vs 8.5
0-200km/h- 12.3 vs 12.7.
Panemera Turbo S was tested as well. M5 just a little slower than Panemera across the board
0-100km/h- 4.1 vs 4.2
0-160km/h- 8.2 vs 8.5
0-200km/h- 12.3 vs 12.7.
Panemera Turbo S was tested as well. M5 just a little slower than Panemera across the board
11-11-2011, 08:25 AM
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I'm on the fence. I really, really like the F10. Great lines, I definitely like it better than the blocky 212.
11-11-2011, 10:28 AM
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As Cylinder said.. gearing and the better/more efficient true auto clutch manual DCT tranny. Faster shifts- less DT loss makes the BMW formidable up top ... again and now down low. Should be a toss up between the E and the F10 IMHO.
11-15-2011, 05:45 AM
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just to make sure the numbers are correct, i am posting here the available test times for CLS63PP
http://www.germancarforum.com/cls-cl...e-package.html
http://www.germancarforum.com/intern...-powerkit.html
The same Magazine that tested the M5 0-200km/h at 11.6s had the CLS63PP clock a 13.2s time (so slower). M5 scan with times is still not online so i will post when it gets scanned
http://www.germancarforum.com/cls-cl...e-package.html
http://www.germancarforum.com/intern...-powerkit.html
The same Magazine that tested the M5 0-200km/h at 11.6s had the CLS63PP clock a 13.2s time (so slower). M5 scan with times is still not online so i will post when it gets scanned
11-15-2011, 11:49 AM
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it was played out allot on the E60....but do you actually have any figures for the new one, or is it just knee jerk reaction?
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2 diff mags so the comparos are not equal... and of course its mag racing but since we are on the topic---
The latest Car and Driver has the F10 and CLSTT with PP
0-60 at 3.7 for the F10 and 3.8 for the CLS
0-100 at 8.3 for both
both have 122 traps in the quarter
F10 is faster to 150 by half a second though
but since we live in the real world- we know that the a non PP CLS with a tune by RT and soft launches runs 125 traps and 11.3 in the quarter.
The latest Car and Driver has the F10 and CLSTT with PP
0-60 at 3.7 for the F10 and 3.8 for the CLS
0-100 at 8.3 for both
both have 122 traps in the quarter
F10 is faster to 150 by half a second though
but since we live in the real world- we know that the a non PP CLS with a tune by RT and soft launches runs 125 traps and 11.3 in the quarter.
after 150.. I give the edge to the M-DCT.
The lighter E chassic could have a sligh edge... but again back to reaction time, and to so many little factors.
Gone are the days.. the M5 was 3 seconds faster to 150... that was bus lengths..
In my book, if the handling is closer to the M5, has top end power just a the M5, the CLS63, E63 is fine car.
M5 is a super sedan and the AMG cars are right there as well. Respect to both companies.
11-15-2011, 05:16 PM
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11-16-2011, 12:22 PM
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The Mercedes MCT on the other hand is the same long-geared 7 speed mercedes has been using but with a wet startup clutch instead of a torque converter.
11-16-2011, 01:17 PM
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M-DCT is like SMGIII on steroids. Twin clutches on a real sequential transmission and short gearing. Each clutch works its own gearset.
The Mercedes MCT on the other hand is the same long-geared 7 speed mercedes has been using but with a wet startup clutch instead of a torque converter.
The Mercedes MCT on the other hand is the same long-geared 7 speed mercedes has been using but with a wet startup clutch instead of a torque converter.
