wdbi

Which would be faster a tuned cl600 or a stage 1 eurocharged e55 ?

BenzoBoi

I would have to say the tuned 600.

Roverron

The Cl600 with the right mods.

ahmad0658

Tuned CL/S/SL 600 is faster than E55 stage 1 and even could be faster than stage 2 (assuming Pulley + Headers)

Jimshorts

V12 power for sure

stockC43

I love the 55's but 600 hands down, I ran 12.0 bone stock and 11.4 on 20's on a mail in tune. Add some bigger turbos and intercoolers and make 777rwhp on pump! Look> https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...yno-sheet.html

kustom2k1

Renntech badged SL600 ripped me a new one.

e500slr

The 600 engine is very potent, the block wall is thicker than the 65s too.

wdbi

so if the cl600 is faster than the e55 and cheaper for less miles why would i buy an e55?

cahiil55k

Same year/condition/mileage E55 and CL600, the CL would actually be a few thousand dollars more. E55 advantages are gas mileage, number of seats, 4 doors, lighter car, airmatic instead of ABC suspension (cheaper to repair), panoroof option just looks cool esp with solar panels, maybe cheaper to insure, real AMG badging, and I'm sure I left some things out. I agree with others that a tuned CL600 is faster than a stg 1 E55.

BBBSS

Also E55 has the V8 Kompressor repair bills as opposed to the V12 that's an attention ***** for mechanics I hear.

chawkins2001

This

AKnight55

v12..

stockC43

Well yes and no, v12 coils are a issue and at $1200 each not a cheap one. However ask anyone who's changed a sc clutch and those cost even more and there just a pulley. Also s/cl's don't have sbc. The key to abc is to allwise keep clean fluid in it. Flush every 2-3 years. Your best bet is to buy what you like and find a well maintained car.

Jimshorts

I was looking at them also the early to mid 2000s are anywhere from 18k-30k depending on miles, so price wise they are relatively the same. The big difference I would see is how many people you can have in the car and I would assume the repair bills on the CL must be ridiculous.

stockC43

If you can, buy 04 and up of either 55 or 600. 00-02 v12's run from. There not turbo and when the oil cooler starts leaking the heads need to come off. First model year of the 211 had the most issues of the 211. 03 s/cl had older command systems with a larger display. 04 up were DVD with a better fiber optic system

wdbi

if any of you guys had to do it again would you buy a cl600 over your e55 or buy a e55 over your cl600

keep in mind my cl600 would probably get a ecu and tcu tune and the e55 would get a stage 1 maybe stage 2 down the road

also since everyone is saying the cl600 is faster how much? I've heard the cl600 with just a tune can run deep 11's like 11.2 and an e55 stage 1 runs about 11.6?

Jimshorts

Depends on what your looking for... I wanted something fast, could drive year round(from Buffalo so had to be able to drive it in the snow), and I could fit 4 of my buddies in it comfortably. If your driving it in the summer only and not planning on cruising with alot of people I would go with the CL probably.

xpl0sive

is older CL just looks too dated to me. i love the new style CL's but they are still close to $70k for the V12's...

i love this one

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/CL600...item41608d4486

wdbi

i live in florida and 4 doors is nice but I'm a bit scared about the maintenance costs

stockC43

Neither are cheap to maintain. You have to expect the unexpected. Your best bet is to find a local mb tech that does side work or find a good shop through this site. Meny indipendents around me sell people stuff they don't need then they bring it to my dealer to be fixed properly.

BlownV8

The CL600/65 is like dating a super model with a crack and heroin addiction. They will rob you blind and drain your bank account. The V12 with the exception of the coil packs and idler pulley is dependable. However, the ABC suspension is a real pain and VERY expensive to repair.

I dumped around $10K into my CL600 the year before I sold the car on ABC, coil packs, intercooler pump, and other small repairs. I went through two ABC pumps and just about every hydraulic line.

With that said, I'm thinking of getting another and doing the Speeddriven turbo upgrades.

TMC M5

I guess that makes you an enabler!

Tom

BlownV8

Yes, the bi-turbo V12 is addictive and having over 700 RWHP with the Speeddriven kit is very tempting. I think if you are proactive and change the accumulators and hoses every three to four years as preventative maintenance it would diffuse much of the ABC failures. When a hose fails, it causes the ABC tandum pump to run dry and grenade the pump. After the pump fails, it sends tiny metal partices into the system and starts to take down the valve blocks and stuts.

You are pretty much stuck with bad coils every 50,000 to 70,000 miles. That's a guaranteed $2,200 + labor unless you install yourself. No way around the bad coil packs but I think the ABC problems can be mitigated.

TMC M5

I had two failures in my CL65's ABC sensors....which caused the entire strut to be replaced (if I remember correctly) because those particular sensors were embeded in the strut (or so I was told). The two replacements (covered under warranty) were about $6K all together at the MB dealership.

Tom