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The TT Engine continues to impress: '12 CLS63TT 10.98 at 129.40mph!!!

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Old Jan 10, 2012 | 02:28 AM
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even though stock boost is 18.8 PSI, it never reach it, i saw max 18 on my car.

i think the limiters do stop it.

if the boost remains the same, they remove some limiters which makes it boost all the power it can, i wish if it can reach 22 PSI, it will be crazy, maybe they need time to discover the maps of the new ECU. or we will need slightly larger turbos.

damn the stock manifold is soo tight.

will a header like the one AMS showed for the GTR create turbo lag on our engine !!
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Old Jan 10, 2012 | 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by RaceHorse
What are these trannys rated for? Or is that the next upgrade for Renntech? According to the traps the car is certainly making some good power. Is it safe to assume the tune is able to increase hp and torque more proportionally in the V8 biturbo so the 7speed can handle it? I'm sure the sticky tires and LSD are a big help in laying down the power. I know with my 65 its not the first 30ft but the second 30ft that make it hard to avoid wheel spin. Any way you look at it this is a great ride with such early accomplishments already and this is only the beginning!!!
This isn't the old 7 spd and Mercedes knows people will make the new 5.5 TT into an insane animal so they must have made one hell of a gearbox. It's not a torque converter box. It's a multi-clutch-transmission (MCT), I'm not sure if it's a true dual clutch like the GT-R though. I think it has a start up clutch or something.
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Old Jan 10, 2012 | 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by chawkins2001
At the MIRacle track, I believe this biturbo brute would beat the E55 dragtimes record of 10.595 by adding drags outback, braille, and full weight interior.

I will call it now, the Biturbo E63 Coupe with downpipes, tune, drag radials, race seat and pulled passenger seat with Braille outback will run a 9.99 second pass or betterin good air. I would be willing to bet on it.

Doesn't it Look like the CLSTT is already running drag radials in the video.
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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 08:34 AM
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fast, something tells me there will be tranny issues on the horizon as HP rises...
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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 08:40 AM
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You might be right homey, good eye.

Originally Posted by Max.H
Doesn't it Look like the CLSTT is already running drag radials in the video.
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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 10:25 AM
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Old Jan 18, 2012 | 06:25 AM
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A little update... not sure if it is the same car but it ran a 10.90 at 128.96 heres the vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCv1Y...baFUAAAAAAABAA
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Old Jan 18, 2012 | 07:57 AM
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Wow... think about how long it took a 55K to achieve a ten second run, and this thing pulled it off in a matter of months. Unreal.
Have any prior CLS's even run 10 seconds???
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Old Jan 18, 2012 | 08:11 AM
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That trap continues to amaze me. I would love to know What the new e63 coupe is going to run.
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Old Jan 18, 2012 | 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by chawkins2001
That trap continues to amaze me. I would love to know What the new e63 coupe is going to run.
Is there really going to be a E63 Coupe?
I didnt know this? Where did you see this?
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Old Jan 18, 2012 | 10:38 AM
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Is there really going to be a E63 Coupe?
I didnt know this? Where did you see this?
No E63 Coupe.


And based on weight Id guess the E63TT sedan is going to beat the CLS but by how much???

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Old Mar 16, 2012 | 12:08 PM
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Update. Now trapping 131mph in the 1/4mile.
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Old Mar 16, 2012 | 01:57 PM
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My mistake, I thought the E class was getting a coupe version, maybe I was dreaming.
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Old Mar 16, 2012 | 02:37 PM
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@vic55 u r one lucky man to own a new 2012 cls 63 amg. Looked at one at MB of Tampa it's a head turner forsure. Congrats on the car, easily one one the best looking cars on the road hands down !
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Old Mar 16, 2012 | 08:36 PM
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131 MPH traps from tune and exhaust??? The 60 ft times aren't anything that hasn't been done with an open rear. What do the numbers work out to be 200+HP, 200+FT/LBS from the tune? It looks like it has some weight saver mods but still impressive. It will be nice to see it done with others by others in the future.
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Old Mar 16, 2012 | 09:00 PM
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Tune and exhaust lol. He got busted in another thread of having much more than that.
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Old Mar 16, 2012 | 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by e55amgrocket
Tune and exhaust lol. He got busted in another thread of having much more than that.
Point me in the right direction please because I was about to sell my house to buy a new CLS63 ( They go for $150K here...ouch ).
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Old Mar 17, 2012 | 01:53 PM
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In the video it looked like the front was going to get airtime... the car just gets the power down so well.... unreal.

Lets home the tranny's hold.
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Old Mar 17, 2012 | 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by e55amgrocket
Tune and exhaust lol. He got busted in another thread of having much more than that.
Exactly.... It does make you wonder without trying to point the finger and think otherwise. e55rocket's car should be good for +/-750 CRANK HP based on his dyno & running 130 with a good 60 ft. This car is right there, the weight has to be close to the same, with the same displacement. What are the new stock turbos good for in boost??? A stock non PP car injectors can keep up with the fuel demand? So we are at the point now where a tune and exhaust can get you 200 HP/ 200 FT/LBS of torque? Boy they are really leaving alot on the table at MB. To think the 600's were detuned is a joke compared to this. I'm having a tough time seeing how this all adds up, hopefully, helpful details and reviewing stock specifications will clarify things.
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Old Mar 17, 2012 | 07:05 PM
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Old Mar 17, 2012 | 07:08 PM
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It's not just tune and exhaust! It has a bunch of mods
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Old Mar 18, 2012 | 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by blackbenzz
It's not just tune and exhaust! It has a bunch of mods
Well to make such a claim, what proof do yo have?
am not doubting, just saying when you state such a thing, as you know same happened to you long ago

One thing is for sure, they are setting the bar and until some one else does, can't really argue
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Old Mar 18, 2012 | 08:55 AM
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Well to make such a claim, what proof do yo have?
am not doubting, just saying when you state such a thing, as you know same happened to you long ago

One thing is for sure, they are setting the bar and until some one else does, can't really argue
Do a search, you will find the proof. It had skinnies, drag radials, removed cats, exhaust work, downpipes, intercoolers, extensive aggressive dyno tuning (not what a customer receives when they mail their ecu in and probably race gas tune) and who knows what else. This happens over and over and has been discussed. People post vids and mislead people by not mentioning the mods in order to increase sales of their products.

https://mbworld.org/forums/5077836-post105.html

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Old Mar 18, 2012 | 10:45 AM
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From what we seem to know, the Renntech car has tune, ICs, exhaust mods, and tires.

It's dyno'ing well over 600 whp, and now running 10.9 @ 131.

I'm sure others will catch-up, but Renntech seems to be well ahead of other tuners' M157 hardware/software at present.
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Old Mar 18, 2012 | 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Zod
Well to make such a claim, what proof do yo have?
am not doubting, just saying when you state such a thing, as you know same happened to you long ago

One thing is for sure, they are setting the bar and until some one else does, can't really argue
The car is moving for sure but i think the point is it's not a car with a box tune and on drag radials. It's got a lot more done than that.
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