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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 06:09 PM
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Pano roof rattles/creeks

My pano roof makes creek noises when driving, I'm wondering how many others do also. Mb has a 20 page diagnostic guide on the pano roof and how to make it quiet, but I havent taken the time to actually do anything to it yet.
Do they all do it, or only some?
Does model year make a difference?
Mine is a 04.
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 06:14 PM
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Exact reason I avoid that option. Not to mention the cost of repair.
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 06:18 PM
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My starts to creak when I havent opened/closed it in a few days.



When it gets used, it stays quiet.


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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 06:50 PM
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Can you post the document you have?
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 07:04 PM
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It's really easy to get rid of the creaking. Just open the roof and lube all of the rubber seals that are under there, including the wind deflector portion. It takes 2-3 minutes and eliminates the noise immediately.

The only caveat is that I have not had time to research the best lubes so I have been using Pedros ice wax which is a wax lube for chains. It works well but only lasts about a month. I need to do some homework on wax, silicone, or acrylic type rubber treatments to see what works best and lasts longer.
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 07:11 PM
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I wish it were that simple... I have lubed it with the factory MB lube, no difference, at least on mine. Thats why this document is there to locate it, and has different solutions for noises from different areas.
I'm not sure how I could post such a lengthy thing on here.
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 07:13 PM
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Damn, I see. Where did you get the document from?
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 07:53 PM
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Well, its on Startekinfo
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 07:55 PM
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Well, its on Startekinfo
Then its probably a PDF or something? You can't upload it somewhere?

Or can anyone view it on that site?
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 08:15 PM
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My 04 rattles... I took it to the dealer and they pulled the headliner to try to fix it.... After an entire day at the MB shop, they came back to me ans said there was nothing that they can do.

I think that there is a difference between some squeeking.... which can probably be made slightly better from lubrication... but creaking and rattling is just due to a crappy designed sunroof.
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 08:20 PM
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I really dont think many people, even techs that work at dealers( as I didnt before I went searching) know about this guide I'm talking about. It goes very in depth. Let me see what I can do about posting it.
But, if today was any sign, I tried to email a wiring diagram with diag info and the website would not let me. I ended up having to take a picture of the computer screen with my phone and then emailing it.
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 08:22 PM
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Mine does not "squeek" more of a single "pop" here and there.
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Iknownothing
I really dont think many people, even techs that work at dealers( as I didnt before I went searching) know about this guide I'm talking about. It goes very in depth. Let me see what I can do about posting it.
But, if today was any sign, I tried to email a wiring diagram with diag info and the website would not let me. I ended up having to take a picture of the computer screen with my phone and then emailing it.
It seems like that website had PDFs? Then you just download the PDF to your computer. Next, you need to host it somewhere. You can upload it on dropbox.com or box.net. Then you need to post the link to that file here.
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 10:26 PM
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I would love to have this info handy as I have an 03 with pano/solar. If you can get the file saved to your computer and need help posting it up for others to see you can email it to me and I'll throw it on one of the free sharing websites. If I can help shoot the file to

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Old Jan 10, 2012 | 12:06 AM
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Mine makes some noise, but bearable. Had lubed once and it was quieter, but Id love to see this document as well. If it can be e-mail, I can put up on an FTP site, or it looks like BBBSS can do that as well.
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Old Jan 10, 2012 | 12:08 AM
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My 04 creaks as well. Worse when it is cold out. Between the active seats creeking and the pano, it sounds like a work van sometimes!
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Old Jan 10, 2012 | 01:15 AM
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I can't drive my car without music on. Too many noises from the cabin and suspension!
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Old Jan 10, 2012 | 01:24 AM
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Exact reason I avoid that option. Not to mention the cost of repair.

+1 all hail the hard top

hope you sort it out man its not cool to have a rattling squeeky car.
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Old Jan 10, 2012 | 11:10 AM
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The problem is that the bolts that hold down the roof to the frame gets looser over time as the chassis flexes over and over again. The real fix is to undo the bolts and apply some plastidip to anywhere metal touches metal.
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Old Jan 10, 2012 | 11:28 AM
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I had the panoramic roof on my E350, didn't care for it after awhile. I thought that one day the glass would actually crack, considering all the noise that it made.
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Old Jan 10, 2012 | 01:34 PM
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pano cleaning and lube file pdf

I have used silicone spray in the past for lubing with good results. It will start creaking again after a few months, when it does just lube it again. Since I just did my front and rear brake pads and rotors I may try the same grease that is used between the rotor and the caliper next time on the pano. Just will use a very light coat and see how long that lasts.
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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 10:44 PM
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Ok, bump this. Just email the pdf file of the diag guide to I BOUNCE DRUNKS, even though i hate being bounced when I'm drunk!! So he can post it for everyone.
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Old Jan 12, 2012 | 02:36 AM
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It is biggest complaint with my car. The roof creaks and pops at will. I can't drive in peace and always have to have the radio on or the roof open. Are there MB corporate folks reading these threads? It is disappointing if year-over-year complaints have fallen on deaf ears. Having the dealer look is a big waste of time and money.

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The problem is that the bolts that hold down the roof to the frame gets looser over time as the chassis flexes over and over again. The real fix is to undo the bolts and apply some plastidip to anywhere metal touches metal.
Have you had this done and if so, where? I am in So Cal.
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Old Jan 12, 2012 | 03:13 AM
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Same here...this is the biggest disappointment with this car for me as well. Damn roof creaks constantly, especially when cold. I'll go to the dealer and pickup those two part numbers and try lubricating the points, but I have a feeling that's not going to solve it. Wish I'd gotten a hard top or regular sunroof model...lesson learned.
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Old Jan 12, 2012 | 08:40 AM
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I do clean it twice a yr and lube with White Lithium Grease spray type.
I also open all my windows and roof in the winter about 3-4 cycles (up down up down etc)every 2 weeks along with turning on the A/C. I also make sure the ABS pump is working my giving it a hard stop every so often.
NYC road are not the best and I have a quiet roof.
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