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EC Heat Exchanger install and tests

Old Jan 31, 2012 | 12:33 AM
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EC Heat Exchanger install and tests

Got my HE from EC today. Had some time so decided to get after it.

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Everything was pretty straightforward.

Remove bumper is just time consuming. When you get all the fasteners off, it should practically fall off. If you have to use force something is wrong.

Not real excited about having to cut off the lower bumper mounts, but it seems ok.

the HE install itself is ok. Drill out rivets from old HE holding oil cooler on and drill and rivet the mounts onto the new HE. It hangs a bit lower than before and rubs slightly on the bumper. No big deal.

Getting the air out was a again time consuming. Took a while, I have the -10 bosch pump and had trouble getting the air out. Finally I did get a good stream out and go it purged.

I did a some test runs with a temp sensor hooked up.

On a 50 degree evening. Cruising at 75 on semi flat terrain the temp seemed to be about 72-75.

On a hard pull from 0-90 the temp would hit 87. and quickly come back down to 72-75.

On an extended downhill cruise I was able to get it down to 65. But as soon as I stopped the temp went back up to about 75.

My car is completely stock with the exception of the HE now. It will be interesting with a pulley to see how much difference it will make. That new larger core HE will be a lifesaver for sure.
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Old Jan 31, 2012 | 01:15 AM
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good write-up. may tackle this myself now that i've read this! cool bro. good job.
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Old Jan 31, 2012 | 01:29 AM
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You should cut those damn tabs blocking air from flowing into the intake tubes..
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Old Jan 31, 2012 | 01:56 AM
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You should cut those damn tabs blocking air from flowing into the intake tubes..
I'll get after that tomorrow. Didn't even notice that until now. Thanks.
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Old Jan 31, 2012 | 01:58 AM
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Originally Posted by amg guy
I'll get after that tomorrow. Didn't even notice that until now. Thanks.
No problem.. Was one of the first thing I did
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Old Jan 31, 2012 | 02:27 AM
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see question below..

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Old Jan 31, 2012 | 02:28 AM
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Originally Posted by amg guy
Got my HE from EC today. Had some time so decided to get after it.

Before.



After.



Everything was pretty straightforward.

Remove bumper is just time consuming. When you get all the fasteners off, it should practically fall off. If you have to use force something is wrong.

Not real excited about having to cut off the lower bumper mounts, but it seems ok.

the HE install itself is ok. Drill out rivets from old HE holding oil cooler on and drill and rivet the mounts onto the new HE. It hangs a bit lower than before and rubs slightly on the bumper. No big deal.

Getting the air out was a again time consuming. Took a while, I have the -10 bosch pump and had trouble getting the air out. Finally I did get a good stream out and go it purged.

I did a some test runs with a temp sensor hooked up.

On a 50 degree evening. Cruising at 75 on semi flat terrain the temp seemed to be about 72-75.

On a hard pull from 0-90 the temp would hit 87. and quickly come back down to 72-75.

On an extended downhill cruise I was able to get it down to 65. But as soon as I stopped the temp went back up to about 75.

My car is completely stock with the exception of the HE now. It will be interesting with a pulley to see how much difference it will make. That new larger core HE will be a lifesaver for sure.
Did you get the interest required after installation? Are any worth buying?
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Old Jan 31, 2012 | 02:29 AM
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Originally Posted by AKnight55
You should cut those damn tabs blocking air from flowing into the intake tubes..
Originally Posted by amg guy
I'll get after that tomorrow. Didn't even notice that until now. Thanks.
post some afte pic's if you don't mind as i'd like to see what it looks like after you cut. btw, did you take any before iat readings?
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Old Jan 31, 2012 | 10:56 AM
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i bet if you wired you pump to be always on when car is on the temps would be even better.
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Old Jan 31, 2012 | 11:48 AM
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i bet if you wired you pump to be always on when car is on the temps would be even better.
I also monitored the temps in the intercooler plumbing lines. From what I can tell that pump is running about all the time anyway. Even on a 50 degree evening.


Trust me just one pull from 0-80 gets those temps up quickly.
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post some afte pic's if you don't mind as i'd like to see what it looks like after you cut. btw, did you take any before iat readings?
I dont have any pics, sorry. Youll be able to figure it out if you look at it though
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Old Jan 31, 2012 | 12:05 PM
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Did you get the interest required after installation? Are any worth buying?
Yes, If I understand what you are asking the larger intercooler is worth the $
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Old Jun 2, 2012 | 02:46 PM
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hows the fit after buttoning it all back up?
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Old Jun 2, 2012 | 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Toadster
hows the fit after buttoning it all back up?
I too have the EC heat exchanger and fit is great....Also, I can attest to the effectiveness as I logged IATs before and after and this heat exchanger is a huge improvement. I think the next step if you are hell bent on lowering IATs even more is to install a large tank (engine bay or trunk) and run a Killer Chiller....
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Old Jun 2, 2012 | 04:01 PM
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I too have the EC heat exchanger and fit is great....Also, I can attest to the effectiveness as I logged IATs before and after and this heat exchanger is a huge improvement. I think the next step if you are hell bent on lowering IATs even more is to install a large tank (engine bay or trunk) and run a Killer Chiller....
just wondering with the other cooler mounted below - did the front lip bulge at all?
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Old Jun 2, 2012 | 11:17 PM
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No it does not bulge out at all. I have a EC one as well. Look at ur thread u made I posted a pic of mine toad
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Old Jun 2, 2012 | 11:41 PM
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No it does not bulge out at all. I have a EC one as well. Look at ur thread u made I posted a pic of mine toad
ah yes... I think the EC H/E has the mounts underneath for the cooler - right?
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ah yes... I think the EC H/E has the mounts underneath for the cooler - right?
nope. had to drill and rivet the brackets on. My oil cooler pushes down on the bumper just a little bit.
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Where is the best place to put a bleeder valve on the lines so u can bleed the cooling system fast and easy!

This is for a non split system
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