W211 AMG Discuss the W211 AMG's such as the E55 and the E63

IDC with 550cc injectors.

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Old Jun 10, 2012 | 10:20 AM
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IDC with 550cc injectors.

I was wondering if anyone has the IDC of the 550cc injectors? I have looked and found the info on the stock injectors and was wondering what they are on the 550s. Just the pulse width would be fine as I can do the rest. Any mods that require them would be fine.
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Old Jun 10, 2012 | 01:34 PM
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Here is my car with 550's and running VERY rich.



78% max with a low 10's A/F ratio. I'll be lower once I get a better tune.
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Old Jun 10, 2012 | 02:16 PM
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Exactly what I was looking for.
Any data above 6,000?
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Old Jun 10, 2012 | 02:19 PM
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Sorry but does anyone know the PID for IDC in the torque app? and timing retard also?
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Old Jun 10, 2012 | 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by whipplem104
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Exactly what I was looking for.
Any data above 6,000?
Unfortunately I had to stop but based on my calculations I should see about 84% by 6500. Again, once I lean my car out it should run a good 5-8% lower.
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Old Jun 11, 2012 | 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by GT-ER
Here is my car with 550's and running VERY rich.



78% max with a low 10's A/F ratio. I'll be lower once I get a better tune.
Can you share what injectors you decided to go with and where you picked them up from. I am trying to determine what is the best brand to go with.

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Old Jun 11, 2012 | 11:10 PM
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Can you share what injectors you decided to go with and where you picked them up from. I am trying to determine what is the best brand to go with.

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Old Jun 11, 2012 | 11:13 PM
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why does injector time decline as rpm rises?
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Old Jun 12, 2012 | 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by stevebez
why does injector time decline as rpm rises?
because the car s running richer in the lower rpms than it is up on top.
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Old Jun 12, 2012 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by stevebez
why does injector time decline as rpm rises?
AFAIK...As RPM goes up the time for a revolution goes down...so 6000rpm/ 60000 milliseconds = .1 rev/ms = 100ms/rev

if those units are in milliseconds then @ 6000 rpm the injector is on for approx 15ms out of 100ms. and as rpm goes up

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Old Jun 12, 2012 | 04:00 PM
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You are correct if you are talking avout the time the injector is closed. The time the injector is open however stays the same if the amount of air in the chamber is the same and the af ratio is the same, regardless of rpm. For duty cycle however, the rpm is taken into consideration because it takes into consideration injector on AND off time.
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Old Jun 12, 2012 | 04:32 PM
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Whoops ...ok...it works out to only 20ms for the injector to spray of which approx 15ms is the time he is spraying fuel with an off time of 4-5 ms. so the injectors are at 75%+ duty cycle @6000 RPM?
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Old Jun 12, 2012 | 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by streetspeeder
Whoops ...ok...it works out to only 20ms for the injector to spray of which approx 15ms is the time he is spraying fuel with an off time of 4-5 ms. so the injectors are at 75%+ duty cycle @6000 RPM?
yes, correct.
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Old Jun 12, 2012 | 11:22 PM
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I know with the injectors I have (550cc ev14) I made 619hp on dyno jet and still
Had plenty of room left. We had a bad wideband on the dyno when Kerry tuned it and we're able to peg the new meter at 9.0 with more fuel left before taking 20% back out.
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Old Jun 13, 2012 | 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by e55amgrocket
I know with the injectors I have (550cc ev14) I made 619hp on dyno jet and still
Had plenty of room left. We had a bad wideband on the dyno when Kerry tuned it and we're able to peg the new meter at 9.0 with more fuel left before taking 20% back out.
Yeah... Still waiting on that DIY thread from you on how to install the injectors u sold everyone
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