bstudey01

I'm looking at getting a radar/detector/jammer for my E55K. Did a search on here about best one out there but only found some old threads from like 07-08. What the newest best thing out there today? Let me know what you guys have and experiences with them
Thanks

E55Dimon

V1/Laser Interceptor. Keep on speedin'

03'55AMG

+1

Forrest Gump 9

I like my V1, but with all the constructions going on here I may have to upgrade to some form of jammer soon.

Ajackfish

The Escort 9500ci is the current state of the art. It works well and it learns the false signals via the GPS location. The laser shifters are not as good as some smaller brands, but they do a good job.

KeepRtPassLeft

If you ask which is the fastest car, you will get many answers. The fastest dragster will be horrible on a dirt oval, and the fastest on a dirt oval will do poorly on a road course. Similarly radar detectors have their strengths and weaknesses. So I did some research.

Choosing a radar detector for you depends on many factors:
1. Do you want a more sensitive detector that will give you earlier warning, but more false alerts, or a less sensitive detector that will give you less false alerts.
2. Do you want a radar detector that can supress false alerts by the use of GPS filtering. Just note this same GPS filtering can supress true police radar signal detection.
3. Is the location of the threat (forward, behind, side) information important to you.
4. What kind of enviroment do you drive in: hilly, flat, curvy roads, straight roads, urban, suburban, rural, highway, side streets, secondary roads? Different radar detectors do better in some of these enviroments and others do better in others.
5. What kind of tactics does the police use in areas you drive in. ie. in Texas (I have a friend that lives there) the Valentine 1 and the Beltronics STiR+ (programmed correctly) are the only radar detectors that will detect radar the way it is used there.
6. Do you want a windshield mount radar detector or an installed remote radar detector.
7. If you live or drive in Virginia where radar detectors are illegal, and the police use radar detector detectors, you need a "Stealth" radar detector that the radar detector detectors can not detect.

As for Laser Jammers the best is the Laser Interceptor.
Yeah, I am kind of a radar detector enthusiast too.

bstudey01

Okay, well I guess I don't mind if it is more sensitive and gives off false alarms. Direction of the radar is important to me. I'm not sure about police tactics, but I live in Wisconsin. Most of my driving is in the a smaller city, also highways. Windshield mount would be fine as I don't want too involved of an install. Waht do you think would be best for me? Also do you have to have two units, one for radar/laser detections and one for jamming? Don't really want to units on my windshield if possible.
Thanks

KeepRtPassLeft

Laser jammer units cannot be mounted on the windshield. They must be installed. The best laser jammer is the Laser Interceptor.

As far as a radar detector is concerned, you should look at the Valentine One. It will give you inform you if the radar source is in front, to the side or rear of you. I would slo purchase from Valentine, Savvy. Savvy plugs into our OBD2 port, powers your Valentine1, and you could set it to automatically mute alerts under a speed that you determine.

cij911

Make sure you know your state laws....I thought California was more severe (misdemeanor)for laser jammers, but it appears to be just an infraction....

bstudey01

Do you know an internet store that has a good deal on the package Valentine One/Laser Interceptor? The few stores I found were out of stock or discontinued?

Mantooth

The 9500ci is pretty legit.

cij911

Both sell direct....

tgoss

9500ci in my GT-R. Couldn't be happier and it saves my *** at least once a week.

TheVazha

The only speeding ticket I've received in the last year was by CHP and he had a lidar. Does anyone know if any of the above mentioned actually do anything against lidar?

KeepRtPassLeft

Yes, the laser diode systems are more effective than the LED systems.

Mr.Radarguy

Here you are again touting LI........ Here is my outlook

A laser jammer's primary function is to transmit pulses of IR light in a manner which destructively interferes with the pulse-train of the police laser gun that is being triggered. A laser jammer must quickly determine the actual pulse rate being transmitted by the laser gun and then counter with the illumination of its own destructive pulse-train to render the laser gun unable to obtain a speed reading (again, as described in Blinder's patents).

While power certainly can play a role, to a degree, in this mechanism, it is not the overriding force which ultimately determines the overall laser jamming effectiveness.

At some point, using more "illuminating" power does not and will not improve performance as other more important factors come into play. In other words, more is not always better.

Furthermore (and what is not understood by the vast majority of consumers or reviewers of laser jammers): police laser guns use magnifying elements in their transmission and reception sections to significantly amplify their weak transmission signals.

This is extremely important to understand because what this means in reality is that the difference in output of either an array of multiple LEDs or a single laser-diode is to a large degree negated and less relevant to the effectiveness of any given laser jammer, regardless of the mode employed in its design (LED Array or Laser-Diode). The timings and other design-elements (such as beam-divergence) are far more important.

In other words, the hype surrounding "high-power" laser jammers is bogus marketing-speak, used to sell very expensive laser jammers. This process is referred to as manufacturing demand (a MUST SEE video). Another industry that employs this marketing tactic (with impunity) is the bottled water industry.

However, some reviews primarily focused on the "high-power" of one particular laser-diode-based laser jammer as being a most important factor, I would like to offer this perspective on laser diodes as an illuminating source of laser jammers as compared to an array of multiple LEDs.

As someone who has zero financial interest/stake in any of these laser jammer companies, for my money, I wouldn't focus on the particulars of the individual components used in the construction of a laser jammer for making a selling (or purchasing) decision.

In the final analysis what matters is the actual performance of the laser jammer in the real-world of everyday driving and not what was used internally to achieve that performance.

Historically, there have been both good performing and poor performing laser jammers of each kind (LED Array and Single Laser-Diode), further demonstrating this point.

Incidentally, the most advanced development of illumination sources today are...LEDs.
and seeing that " laser Diode " jammers contain tech that is monitored by the FDA/OSHA and pose a threat of permanent eye-sight damage, I suspect, won't be permitted to stay on the market for very long, once the FDA/OSHA gets wind of the health-risks.

KeepRtPassLeft

Mr. Radarguy brings some very important points tithe discussion. The first item to note is that the Laser Interceptor has been tested by an independent third party, and has been reviewed by the FDA and determined to be a Class I laser product. Class I laser products are considered by the FDA to be eye safe. The scanner in the supermarket is a class I laser product. The common laser pointer is a Class IIIb laser product for comparison and is not considered eye safe, but is legally sold to the public without any required training or protective eyewear.

There best performing LED laser jammer is the Blinder Mx7 series followed by the Escort ZR4 system. In testing these systems performance does not match the performance of the laser systems such as the Laser Interceptor or AntiLaser ALG9. In theory LED jammers may have some advantages compared to laser diode systems, but the need for mutiple LEDs and the size required to house and drive the required number of LEDs to match the performance of a laser diode system is prohibitive for a cosmetically pleasing installations. Additionally, unlike the Blinder or Escort laser jammers, the K40 does not have any focusing lenses to direct the IR being emitted from the k40 jammer head. The wide divergence of the beam of the k40 and relative low power helps many LIDAR guns defeat the K40. Although you don't need high power to jam most LIDAR guns, there is a low limit needed by the LIDAR gun to obtain a reading. This is done to prevent enviomental noise from effecting the LIDAR gun's reading.

With many of the newer LIDAR guns such as the LTI TruspeedS and Laser Ally, the current crop of current LED jammers do not have the ability to jam them. Additionally, such LIDAR guns such as the Stalker have historically proved difficult to jam. Timing, pulse rate, pulse width, beam intensity, as well as beam pattern, and divergence

Additionally, the ability for the laser jammer to see the incoming LIDAR signal is important. You can jam what you can't see. The most sensitive LIDAR jammer is the Escort ZR4, however it's jamming ability does not match the Blinder Mx7 or Laser Interceptor.

jmb614

I compared the V1 to the Escort Redline for quite a while and decided on the Redline considering I can use it with Escort Live on my droid. Having a database of speed and red light cameras, real time alerts, and false alert lockout is nice.

Next up will be a pair of LI's.

cij911

I just bought the new Blinder hp-905 dual. Does anyone have the 905 and if so, thoughts and/or recommendations on the placement of the sensors ?

AgSilver

I have all 4 transceivers facing forward. Can you see them?

cij911

No I cannot see the sensors in your picture .

Do you have the 905 ? If so, it sounds like you went with the four sensor (for large trucks) option and mounted all in the front ?

I am wondering if I need to change the order and install one in the rear???

mdbenz4me

4 on an E class seems like overkill, you could probably do two in the front and two in the rear... but 4 in the front is definitely good peace of mind.

AgSilver

Look just above the heat exchanger.

AgSilver

Never fails . . . so far

cij911

AgSilver - Why not mount them higher ? I am trying to get confirmation of the spread, so I can determine the optimal mounting points (a sales person thought 18" - which is not a lot).