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E55 is down again........FAWK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Old 07-11-2012 | 10:38 PM
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E55 is down again........FAWK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Went to PBIR tonight. Weather was kinda good so I thought I'd try my luck. Well, It fu*ked me in the as* hard.

Trans #2 is broken.

More details soon. I'm leaving the track now and have an hours drive home. I'll post up vids and the vid it broke on.

All this talk of launching off idle is bullsh*t! That's how it broke the first time and the second time. Every time I launch from a stall it's fine.

Sorry guys! I'm fawkin hot right now!
Old 07-11-2012 | 10:45 PM
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Damn man! This is getting nuts. Maybe 3rd times a charm and karma will return 10's next time..
Old 07-11-2012 | 10:46 PM
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Shi* Sorry to hear that bro. Best of luck getting it back together. Track prep must be redic.
Old 07-11-2012 | 10:47 PM
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DAMN ELLIOT!! Get some updates posted when you can Good luck.
Old 07-11-2012 | 10:47 PM
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You've got to be F N kidding me ! I'm so so sry to hear this. You just got her back up
Old 07-11-2012 | 10:48 PM
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Thats some fkd up schit...
Old 07-11-2012 | 10:58 PM
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Old 07-11-2012 | 11:03 PM
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Old 07-11-2012 | 11:08 PM
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Old 07-11-2012 | 11:11 PM
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Sorry to hear RBJ that's why I have been freaked to do anything harsh to my tranny after getting it back last Thursday. I always launch with the engine slightly revd to 1500rpm or so.

Keep us posted. What part seems to have broken this time?
Old 07-11-2012 | 11:36 PM
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sorry to hear. Did you replace all of the plates? How did you check for clearance or did you just use the old snap rings? Though it took me several additional days, I put mine together on the lower (tight) end of specs. Also, all of the o-rings are critical though many will say they do not require changing. It is a PITA to get to the inner clutch o-rings but crap will get stuck in there from a bad trans like yours.
More than a few trans peoples told me to be very careful with those tony 'ceramic' rings where even a scratch will cause significant problems shortly after.

So far around 5-6k hard miles and no issues. BOL to you.
Old 07-11-2012 | 11:52 PM
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Where did it break this time? maybe it can be replaced with better stuff..
Old 07-12-2012 | 12:01 AM
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Old 07-12-2012 | 12:49 AM
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I feel your pain man, I've been down that road many times. Hope you get her back up and running soon.
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Okay guys I'm home now. I've managed to cool off and now I got a few beers in me.

On the last launch I made it about 100 ft. and lost power. The car would not shift into 2nd gear. It was stuck in 1st. So I coasted down the track, got my 100sec time slip and drove straight to the trailor and put the car on it. It still goes into gear, but won't get out of first.

Now I didn't even bother trying to turn off and reset or anything. I just loaded it up asap so that I didin't have to push it on the trailor.

We will try to reset tomorrow. And try what ever we can. Who knows, it might be fine after a hard reset. But I dunno.

Loading vids now.
Old 07-12-2012 | 03:46 AM
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Sorry to hear man. If I were you I'd build it. You might be lucky and its just the conductor plate, you try changing that last time though right? Time to build it
Old 07-12-2012 | 04:17 AM
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Sorry to hear this happening again!
Old 07-12-2012 | 04:19 AM
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Launching hard off idle is likely allowing the converter to "flash" to a notably higher RPM and with the crazy torque and a sticky surface its hell on the drivetrain. Not sure what the stall torque ratio is on the stock converter but you're probably hitting the trans instantly with ~1.4-1.8 times the torque the motor normally makes by letting it flash like that. Loading it up on the converter will help it launch without that sudden spike and multiplication of torque that likes to break things.

Chawkins will know what I'm talking about. Torque converters can do some crazy things in certain conditions.

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Old 07-12-2012 | 06:19 AM
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I've had similar things happen and after shutting it off and on again it worked fine. Hope yours is a similar problem.
Old 07-12-2012 | 06:35 AM
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His second trans was not built, it was a stocker. Sorry to hear man, launching off idle maybe harsher but it is proven to run the best 60's.

Try the sneaky reset bro, you maybe in luck.
Old 07-12-2012 | 06:47 AM
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Launching hard off idle is likely allowing the converter to "flash" to a notably higher RPM and with the crazy torque and a sticky surface its hell on the drivetrain. Not sure what the stall torque ratio is on the stock converter but you're probably hitting the trans instantly with ~1.4-1.8 times the torque the motor normally makes by letting it flash like that. Loading it up on the converter will help it launch without that sudden spike and multiplication of torque that likes to break things.

Chawkins will know what I'm talking about. Torque converters can do some crazy things in certain conditions.
I don't think it's from flashing the converter that's causing it. I've hit mine from idle and even sprayed it out of the hole twice when it was seeing over 800 ft/lbs of torque. The problem I had was it hitting the rev limiter before shifting. Hopefully the trans just freaked out and a reset will fix it. I don't know if you were in dyno mode or not but when I ran in dyno mode a lot of my trans problems went away.
Old 07-12-2012 | 07:13 AM
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Sorry to hear what happened.
Old 07-12-2012 | 07:30 AM
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hay man sorry i was not there ,,, (family in from N Y you know)) and sorry your tranny turned loose again. we both have lunched both ways ,holding the brake and building up the rpm, and nailing it from idle, you do crazy things with your car and have been the test car/driver for all of us. i will see you today, & if there is any thing i can do let me know. I want to be there when you check it out, JIM
Old 07-12-2012 | 07:38 AM
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Uneffinbelievable.
Old 07-12-2012 | 08:21 AM
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Sucks man, I know that feeling oh to well from my Audi. 7 broken transmissions in that thing, but shredding teeth off gears is usually my problem. It sucks to think about it but maybe you need to call up Paramount Performance or Southern Hotrod about a built tranny that will supposedly take anything, they are like $4500 though if I remember right which is a little tough to swallow.


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