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REALLY? Didn't even fill up more than 80%!!

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Old Jul 27, 2012 | 12:41 AM
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REALLY? Didn't even fill up more than 80%!!

I am assuming that fuel came in to contact with the insulation and dried up and caused it to stick...




Right after fueling and driving home







This is REALLY getting old.. I always make it a mental note not to fill up past 3/4 to avoid this and I guess that wont cut it anymore.. I'd better get used to driving around at a half tank...
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Old Jul 27, 2012 | 01:46 AM
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According to MB there is no problem....
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Old Jul 27, 2012 | 01:53 AM
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True. This isn't their problem, its there way to make money. Really sad
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Old Jul 27, 2012 | 04:24 AM
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Dig up that email or contact info for the NHTSA guys looking into this. Mercedes wants to say this is IMPOSSIBLE well here you go, come look at the impossible!

The fuel is probably wicking through the gasket cause its getting soaked from a steady leak and soaking into the matting. Whatever glue held the matting together is melting from the gasoline (amazing solvent) and making it stick at the bottom. <---my theory.

Get a hold of NHTSA on this ASAP though. Benz specifically said this was impossible.
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Old Jul 27, 2012 | 06:58 AM
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This is pretty serious leakage going on here. I would take to the dealer with copy of the class action docs and the 2008 recall and at least get the sending units replaced for now or whatever parts are causing this leak. I def wouldnt be driving around with this and inhaling fumes!!!
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Old Jul 27, 2012 | 08:10 AM
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I sent you a PM regarding a email contact at NHTSA
Definitely a concern when the insulation is soaked.
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Old Jul 27, 2012 | 11:57 AM
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Wow, that sucks! I bet the fumes knock you out when you open the door. I know a guy that had a front end accident in his e55 and whole car smelled like gas from that seal/pump leaking.
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Old Jul 27, 2012 | 12:14 PM
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Damn, that's bad. I only have the gas smell when I overfill the tank. Since then I've always stop when the pump stops, no problem since.

I've always tell myself that one day I'll open the unit up to see what's wrong with it, but never get around to it.
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Old Jul 27, 2012 | 12:36 PM
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hey guys, what percent of W211's have this issue? i just filled up my tank in the 2007 E63 all the way up for the first time yesterday and don't smell gas or anything. does it happen over time?
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Old Jul 27, 2012 | 12:56 PM
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That is a ticking time bomb right there. Take the suite, pics, and recall to the dealer, and speak to the service manager, hand him everything.
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Old Jul 27, 2012 | 01:07 PM
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Old Jul 27, 2012 | 01:19 PM
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Might have to have your parents complain for you. I doubt they are going to take a 17 year old serious
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Old Jul 27, 2012 | 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by michael kuzni
hey guys, what percent of W211's have this issue? i just filled up my tank in the 2007 E63 all the way up for the first time yesterday and don't smell gas or anything. does it happen over time?
I told you already in the C32 section
Remove access panel under the seat and inspect after you fill up
It takes ten minutes
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Old Jul 27, 2012 | 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by AKnight55
Might have to have your parents complain for you. I doubt they are going to take a 17 year old serious
Why the hate Andrew?
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Old Jul 27, 2012 | 01:38 PM
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Why the hate Andrew?
Please tell me how I'm hating?? The op is 17. Doubt they are going to take him serious if he takes it into a Benz dealer.
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Old Jul 27, 2012 | 01:54 PM
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Here is the potential solution for this problem, unless ordered by Fed to have MB to force a recall.

http://www.rmoreau.com/item/ss300-ga...tv-silicone/53
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Old Jul 27, 2012 | 02:43 PM
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i had this issue when i first bought my car. i ended up buying a new o-ring seal (old one was saturated and warped from gas) and ended up spending around 10 minutes muscling the seal in(which is a pain to get positioned correctly) and retightening the plastic ring down tight. fixed my problem...

it would not suprise me if a dealer tech messed this up and didnt realize it.
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Old Jul 27, 2012 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by thumper823
it would not suprise me if a dealer tech messed this up and didnt realize it.
Agreed, there are only few techs are there really pay attention to details.

Forgot to highlight, hope you don't smoke.....

So based on the pictures above, I can only imagine 4 possible areas could cause a leak, where is the actual leak coming out from?
(a) Big O thinggy
(b) is it a vent pipe in the middle where it's connected to L elbow outlet?
(c) one of the connector?

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Old Jul 27, 2012 | 04:27 PM
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Please tell me how I'm hating?? The op is 17. Doubt they are going to take him serious if he takes it into a Benz dealer.
Unbeknowst to you, i sent him a pm directing him how to carefully word his complaint to the NHTSA and only because he probably has the best pictures out of anyone that clearly illustrates the problem and will no doubt raise eyebrows as well as a MB Engineer's Lieberhosen. This could definitely play into our hand.

His age is of no importance to this thread. He has a right to complain like anyone else. Just give him a chance man.
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Old Jul 27, 2012 | 04:28 PM
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OP pay for a smoke test to see where leak is coming from
I paid $80 for mine
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Originally Posted by moosejaw
Unbeknowst to you, i sent him a pm directing him how to carefully word his complaint to the NHTSA and only because he probably has the best pictures out of anyone that clearly illustrates the problem and will no doubt raise eyebrows as well as a MB Engineer's Lieberhosen. This could definitely play into our hand.

His age is of no importance to this thread. He has a right to complain like anyone else. Just give him a chance man.
How am I not giving him a chance loll
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Old Jul 27, 2012 | 06:11 PM
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That sucks. I'm so glad I don't have this problem. Hope MB owns up and issues a full-blown recall campaign before E55s start exploding like Ford Pintos used to :-(

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Old Jul 27, 2012 | 07:56 PM
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And they will say, sure your sender units/and or seals are leaking. It will cost this much to fix. End of story.
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This is pretty serious leakage going on here. I would take to the dealer with copy of the class action docs and the 2008 recall and at least get the sending units replaced for now or whatever parts are causing this leak. I def wouldnt be driving around with this and inhaling fumes!!!
I have been in contact with my dealer pertaining to other issues, and they keep stalling.. I think they know whats up and are putting their tails in between their legs with the issue.
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Dig up that email or contact info for the NHTSA guys looking into this. Mercedes wants to say this is IMPOSSIBLE well here you go, come look at the impossible!

The fuel is probably wicking through the gasket cause its getting soaked from a steady leak and soaking into the matting. Whatever glue held the matting together is melting from the gasoline (amazing solvent) and making it stick at the bottom. <---my theory.

Get a hold of NHTSA on this ASAP though. Benz specifically said this was impossible.
I think you are right 100%. the gas melted the glue and dried causing this.
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I sent you a PM regarding a email contact at NHTSA
Definitely a concern when the insulation is soaked.
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Wow, that sucks! I bet the fumes knock you out when you open the door. I know a guy that had a front end accident in his e55 and whole car smelled like gas from that seal/pump leaking.
Believe me, the windows haven't been rolled up in a WHILE. still smells, I am hoping it isn't permanent. And because I refuse to park outside, I had to walk into a fume filled ticking time bomb garage, yet again.
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That is a ticking time bomb right there. Take the suite, pics, and recall to the dealer, and speak to the service manager, hand him everything.
Yea, I was thinking about doing this after I get everything I need from them. That way they cant delay any longer.. Lol
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I was shocked when I read that story. Very sad, hope MB goes from 'theres no problem' to 'Guys. we need to fix this, this has taken lives now and is no longer a delaying matter. Issue recalls NOW' My heart goes out to those involved. Its just ironic. Why where a seat belt when the second you crash you'll blow up anyway.
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Why the hate Andrew?
No harm done, I understand him completely. No person wants to hear a 17 yo ***** about a problem on a car they them selves couldn't own. But then again, doesn't matter who complains, as long as they have a reason to.
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Agreed, there are only few techs are there really pay attention to details.

Forgot to highlight, hope you don't smoke.....

So based on the pictures above, I can only imagine 4 possible areas could cause a leak, where is the actual leak coming out from?
(a) Big O thinggy
(b) is it a vent pipe in the middle where it's connected to L elbow outlet?
(c) one of the connector?
Well, my Mom does smoke, so this is why I am so worried. when it filled my garage with fumes, I told my friend everything and he let me borrow his ford focus until it cleared up. thats what i call a step down.. I couldn't even pass people with out going WOT for like an hour.. Lmao
Originally Posted by moosejaw
Unbeknowst to you, i sent him a pm directing him how to carefully word his complaint to the NHTSA and only because he probably has the best pictures out of anyone that clearly illustrates the problem and will no doubt raise eyebrows as well as a MB Engineer's Lieberhosen. This could definitely play into our hand.

His age is of no importance to this thread. He has a right to complain like anyone else. Just give him a chance man.
Thanks. I will do the best I can as far as handling this matter. I wont go into detail as to avoid future problems, so just PM me if you have a question pertaining this matter.
Originally Posted by AKnight55
Please tell me how I'm hating?? The op is 17. Doubt they are going to take him serious if he takes it into a Benz dealer.
Don't worry. I don't see it as hating, I see it as constructive thinking. But, what ever it takes, let me know how I can help. I am here for the long haul, if it means getting all these W211's FIXED, not DELAYED

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I have a feeling this may be the straw that finally breaks Merceds' camels back if NHTSA presents it to them.
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