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Old 01-05-2013, 10:36 AM
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'04 E55 Vs '03 ZO6

These guys ran before. ZO6 kills him even worse this time. Someone in that area needs to give him a better run.

http://ls1tech.com/forums/street-rac...vs-03-z06.html
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I know the Z's can be fast, but something has to be wrong with that e55.....It did not even sound like the e55 was racing...
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Love the sound of that lsX. Sexy.

AMG needs some parts/tune.
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I can't believe after the first run against the Vette the E55 didn't get any kind of performance mod so it wasn't stock anymore. Especially with the Vette getting some mod upgrades.

A simple tune with nothing else is going to make a difference for the guy, so it will be interesting to see the next video since this one said he is getting a tune now.
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The E55 is not slow, the Z06 is just really fast . The 02+ C5 Z06 is as fast as the LS3 vettes. I used to be a C5 Z06 owner I should know. If this guy has LT's, exhaust, and tune then he can trap a healthy 120-122mph depending on the driver.
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wait - the Z has 395rwhp and it pulled that hard against the E? no way, gotta be a failing heat pump or something...
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Originally Posted by Toadster
wait - the Z has 395rwhp and it pulled that hard against the E? no way, gotta be a failing heat pump or something...
Agreed 100%...
Old 01-05-2013, 01:58 PM
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wait - the Z has 395rwhp and it pulled that hard against the E? no way, gotta be a failing heat pump or something...
Or the 1,000+ lb difference. E55 over 4,000 lbs, Z06 around 3,100.
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The guy said he trapped 114 or 115 in the Z06 before he got the new Kooks headers and tune setup.

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Originally Posted by TS Motorsport
The E55 is not slow, the Z06 is just really fast . The 02+ C5 Z06 is as fast as the LS3 vettes. I used to be a C5 Z06 owner I should know. If this guy has LT's, exhaust, and tune then he can trap a healthy 120-122mph depending on the driver.
It's not an LS3, it is an LS6. The LS3 is in the C6.
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H/c/I c5z's will trap high teens to low 120's in Vegas. A 540rwhp/500tq 416ci fully built 03 c5z with a great driver and good weather only traps 126 out here.
I had an 01 c5z cammed and bolted that would have been a 118 car at best
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Someone def wrong with the 55.. And boy, that doesn't look like the safest place to do some pulls.
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Why is something wrong with the E55? It is STOCK and the Vette already trapped 115 before making a little more power going from untuned to tuned and better headers so it isn't slow.

Last time at the track there were 3 modded E55s there, all with headers, all tuned and all with a pulley (2 with supercharger pullies other with a crank pulley) the traps were 116, 116 and 115 for the highest traps. Why is it hard to believe a STOCK E55 got beat by a 400whp much lighter Vette?

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I used to have an 01 z06....and followed the ls1 forum closely years ago.... there was a guy named "ranger" who got his 02 stock z06 to run 11's with sticky tires and good driving if I remember right...... so with a good driver these cars are quick.

I'm not the best driver.... I rem pulling up next to an old man in a sl65 in my 01z06, he was sipping his coffee...... I pulled off in a spirited fashion and he nailed it...... so I nailed it..... and thought I'd teach this old chap a lesson...... and I was peddling the gas power shifting as fast as I could..... and he just pulled away one hand on the wheel and one hand on his coffee..... next light he turns over with this shi3 eating grin and pulls away..... after spanking z06-boy.

Z06 story #2.... (last one I promise).... @ 20K miles psg side window quits.... so off to chevy dealership...... tech shows me how they fix em..... he says hold the down button down..... and then he procedes to SLAM the crap out of the door...... and nothing..... he says 1 more time..... SLAM!!!! and then window goes down....up like normal! He says we normally charge $150 for this service. LOL. gotta love the general.

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Its not hard to believe the 55 would get beat, but by that much? My car bone stock dynoed at 470 rwtq, the vette only dynoed 380 wrtq. So you would think the torque advantage of the 55 would make up for the weight disadvantage.
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Originally Posted by AKnight55
Its not hard to believe the 55 would get beat, but by that much? My car bone stock dynoed at 470 rwtq, the vette only dynoed 380 wrtq. So you would think the torque advantage of the 55 would make up for the weight disadvantage.
Yes, but the Z06 is nearly 1000lbs lighter and also dynos should be looked at with a grain of salt. They don't mean much trying to compare one car to another when they weren't on the same dyno or even more so the same day on the same dyno. Dynos vary ALOT.
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The guy with the white G8 in that thread calling the E55 a "sloth" lives in my town.

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I agree bad IC pump or ****ty tires or driver idk how fast those old school c5 zo6s are but, I know they can't be that much faster than the new grand sports and I pull on them with ease. I have headers and a tune and fresh Michelin SS tho he is stock
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A bone stock e55 is not in the same league as a bolt on z. A pulley, header and tune e55 would give it a better run.
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So many here claiming to kill LS6, LS3, and LS7 vettes on the street, but no one has a video. It's like Bigfoot.
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Originally Posted by urbamworm
Yes, but the Z06 is nearly 1000lbs lighter and also dynos should be looked at with a grain of salt. They don't mean much trying to compare one car to another when they weren't on the same dyno or even more so the same day on the same dyno. Dynos vary ALOT.
Then you mine as well throw that "400 whp" out if dynos vary so much. I'm sure the heat gets to the 55 a lot more than the vette, so that may also play into the equation.
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Originally Posted by BI-Performance
A bone stock e55 is not in the same league as a bolt on z. A pulley, header and tune e55 would give it a better run.
Yeah, I ran a modded C5 Z06 once on a decently cool night (think around 60)so I wasn't suffering from big power loss of a hot day. He said he dynoed 430whp, he jumped to my front bumper and then we stayed even until we let off at well over 100mph.

I had headers, 180 pulley, 80mm throttle body so basically all the bolt ons.
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Originally Posted by DVC
So many here claiming to kill LS6, LS3, and LS7 vettes on the street, but no one has a video. It's like Bigfoot.
heres my slk32 against a c6 not a z but it can be done!

heres my turbo porsche against a z06 in a half mile run. sorry you dont much of the vette! at 1 time he had his view but its gone and cant find it

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I had a stock 01z that made 345rwhp and ran 12.5 on street tires.


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