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Old 02-23-2013, 03:12 PM
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sounds like they're copying Mercedes Benz latest models - geesh, can't anyone do anything unique anymore? how about twincharging instead







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This is way above your little butt budies expertise!
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So you mean the most important part of the project?

Fab is the "easy stuff," the tuning is what brings it all together.

Also sounds like if IPS and Eurocharged gets this thing pumped out in not to much time Mr. Ted Baldwin will have another E55 pushing in to the shop right after this one.
Plus write a check for $20,000
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Plus write a check for $20,000
Really? I thought their target was $10kish. If DD reliable and on stock internals at $10kish, I am there.
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Really? I thought their target was $10kish. If DD reliable and on stock internals at $10kish, I am there.
If you look back in the other turbo thread TED challenged someone to build him a TT E55 for $20k.
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I am sure the fab and build will cost more, price point to his customers is the 10k goal.
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To be clear, are you saying you believe the first "kit" or one off being done soon will be more money invested either by customer or shop or both but after they get it all figured out then "kits" to follow would be in the $10k range if people were interested?
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Right, obviously R&D will be expensive. The shop is taking most of the hit. The customer will just pay for parts I believe for being the donor. They want to offer the kit to the customer (future) at a $10,000 price point or lower. Hell, I paid $7800 for a bunch of Kleemann stuff and was no where near that HP!
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What's funny is in the other thread people where going on about how nobody would tune a setup like this. Surprise surprise EC is willing to take it on. It's funny how many haters are on these forums and they never seem to be the ones with real work put into their vehicles.
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Originally Posted by PACougar
What's funny is in the other thread people where going on about how nobody would tune a setup like this. Surprise surprise EC is willing to take it on. It's funny how many haters are on these forums and they never seem to be the ones with real work put into their vehicles.
Right, I was at IPS today picking up the Caddy (getting told I ran out of injector) and we were talking about that exactly. They love doing crap like this so as long as the customer hangs in there, it will get done. He was there too and was stoked. Like most know, it is gonna take some time. They have quit a few builds going on. They have a nasty TT Camaro getting ready for the mile.
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This is way above your little butt budies expertise!
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As long as it takes. I know the rewards with the twins on my E will be well worth it in the end. I'm stoked as all get out.

Rome wasn't built overnight and I'm surely not expecting this build to be a quick throw together. I have complete faith in these guys. Thu know exactly what they are doing and I'm glad Jerry is fully onboard.

This car is going to be an absolute animal once done.
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Amen brother! Good hangin out today. Lets take Stass up and head to his casa for drinks some night! You know those Russians can serve a mean drink!!!!
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Sounds great man. It was good hanging out as well. I'm sure ill see you there a ton more.
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$10K and get roughly the performance of a $90K 2012 E63 turbo? I'd bite.
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As long as it takes. I know the rewards with the twins on my E will be well worth it in the end. I'm stoked as all get out.

Rome wasn't built overnight and I'm surely not expecting this build to be a quick throw together. I have complete faith in these guys. Thu know exactly what they are doing and I'm glad Jerry is fully onboard.

This car is going to be an absolute animal once done.
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Pretty cool project going there. I'll be checking on the updates.

That vett is VERY fast.
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Yep, he is dedicated and dead seious about the project. I love that it is 5 min from my house! I get to watch the build.

Marcus,

A couple weeks into the project now.... and new "spy shots" or status to share? Baseline dyno pull results?

I like pictures.


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Originally Posted by BonnettsE55AMG
Initially no I will not be upgrading the internals. I'm wanting to see just how much the stock motor can take with twins and the tune. Once and if the engine pops or we fear it will then internals will be done and the wick turned up to see just how far the engine can go. Turbos will be way less heat and stress on the engine so I'm not really going to be worried until the 750+rwhp mark.
Going to be an exciting build! When do you expect to be completed? With the large IC turbo plenum, you should be able run a lot lower IAT`s, low timing and 700 hp range on stock internals should last a long time. Even with a few higher boost runs , here and there.
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How would this run compared to the Weistec 3.0L blower? I love turbos just wondering on the price/power ratio. the blower is $8,500.
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How would this run compared to the Weistec 3.0L blower? I love turbos just wondering on the price/power ratio. the blower is $8,500.
It's impossible to say yet...

The HP potential is better than the Weistec, but the costs will be higher as well.

Hopefully Marcus will update with new facts / photos soon.



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Going to be a good TimmayFest this year fella's. I am guessing a stand alone ECU is going to be on tap?
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Going to be a good TimmayFest this year fella's. I am guessing a stand alone ECU is going to be on tap?
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I will check in today.
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The plan is to have it done and ready to debut at Timmayfest!
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That's the plan. In talking with IPS, we are wanting to have the kit done and tuned and running before any pictures are posted or anything. The reason being is that the feeler is out there and the interest is there but don't want pics floating around and then something happens that the kit is not up to far and superior quality or any other snag. Want a good working kit for the unveil and with that said I think the kit will sell good with good results and awesome power.

I'm thinking around 12psi which is just a tad over stock that the twins will be far superior to the whipple 3.0. I'm guessing at least 200whp more than the stock charger and 100more rwhp than the whipple. Does anyone even know what the whipple boost is at from Weistec yet?

I know I'm hoping to reliably run around 15psi and unsure of turbos yet but just know that everything in this kit will be top of the line.

Please everyone remain patient. Updates will come . It will def be worth the wait.


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