M113K Upper Fixed / Clutchless S/C Pulley
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2006 CLS55 & 2002 SL55 (R129) Silver Arrow
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2006 CLS55 & 2002 SL55 (R129) Silver Arrow
Question: When you say its jerky, what exactly do you mean? Is it instant torque, or does the power make the car hop?
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It is instant torque, the car doesnt hop, unless it scares you and your foot comes off the pedal and back on it again. lol.. which did happen to me at first. i wasnt ready for all that torque.. when i said its jerky its kinda like the buck/jerk you feel when running the larger pulleys, like a 190.. but is more noticeable when the car shifts as opposed to when the clutch engages. if that makes sense..
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It is instant torque, the car doesnt hop, unless it scares you and your foot comes off the pedal and back on it again. lol.. which did happen to me at first. i wasnt ready for all that torque.. when i said its jerky its kinda like the buck/jerk you feel when running the larger pulleys, like a 190.. but is more noticeable when the car shifts as opposed to when the clutch engages. if that makes sense..
Personally, I think its sounds like something I'd probably like, unless I'm not understanding you correctly.
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There is "instant torque" as soon as you stomp on the throttle in any of these cars. They have a positive displacement supercharger, not a turbo. There is zero "lag" and the supercharger engages instantly like I said as soon as the throttle position reaches a certain point so this pulley will do absolutely nothing to improve your power over a conventional pulley. What this pulley will do is get rid of the chance of a pulley clutch failure and cost less due to being less complex to make.
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My comment may have been a little unclear. I didn't mean the pulley wouldn't give you more power because it will with it being a smaller diameter than stock, but it wont give you any more power or any quicker power than the same diameter smaller supercharger pulley that is of the clutch type like the stock one.
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What I mean is that the pulley is smaller so it will spool quicker (less pedal effort needed to gain boost).
I hope this is what your experiencing, because that's what I'm looking for.
I hope this is what your experiencing, because that's what I'm looking for.
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That makes no sense, again, you don't have a turbo. It will only turn or "spool" as you put it as fast as the engine turns and it isn't going to turn any faster than the same sized supercharger pulley that has the clutch. As in the "upgraded" smaller supercharger pulley made my the same manufacturer that makes this one but still has a clutch.
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Yea, I'm with urbam on this one ... how exactly do you spool a mechanically driven supercharger?
There is no lag/spool up on a blower on the 55K motors.
I'm no guru, but maybe I'm missing something here????
There is no lag/spool up on a blower on the 55K motors.
I'm no guru, but maybe I'm missing something here????
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ArmoE55, I cant think of a better word to use to describe what I'm trying to say.
Urbanworm, thank you enlightening me. All this time I thought "Kompressor" was German for "Turbo"
Urbanworm, thank you enlightening me. All this time I thought "Kompressor" was German for "Turbo"
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a lot of people use this term incorrectly - myself included...
it's just a matter of spinning the S/C faster with better ratios in comparison to the crank pulley - so you get more boost - faster
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That makes no sense, again, you don't have a turbo. It will only turn or "spool" as you put it as fast as the engine turns and it isn't going to turn any faster than the same sized supercharger pulley that has the clutch. As in the "upgraded" smaller supercharger pulley made my the same manufacturer that makes this one but still has a clutch.
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Exactly, thank you for better explaining it. Its annoying waiting for my clutch to engage so I'm sure I'm gonna like this better.
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With the "clutchless" pulley, the by pass valve is going to be open when the car is not under peak load (or some certain load percentage) while also under some certain throttle position, so it is the same difference, you would have to "wait" for the bypass valve to close before it will build boost and "spool" as they like to put it. So there is no difference. Like I originally said, you get the peace of mind of not having a clutch that is going to break on the pulley, other than that they are the same performance wise.
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i just ordered mine it should be here before week is over
so i will chime in on it as well
i got the 77 mm
so i will chime in on it as well
i got the 77 mm
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I'm curious how effective the bypass will be in comparison to the clutch - could be interesting on a high-rpm downshift... could definitely impact the exhaust note depending on the RPMs
