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Old May 1, 2013 | 10:30 AM
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White smoke on the startup

I just got 2007 E63 and when i start the car especially in the morning the car shoots out A LOT of white smoke but only on the start up ? Any idea what is the problem ?
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Old May 1, 2013 | 10:40 AM
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does the smoke smell of oil
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Old May 1, 2013 | 11:45 AM
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I don't think I smell oil but not 100% sure.
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Old May 1, 2013 | 11:58 AM
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white smoke normally = head gasket issues
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Old May 1, 2013 | 12:38 PM
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Can you tell me how expensive is it to replace head gasket on 07 E63?
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Old May 1, 2013 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by serge718
Can you tell me how expensive is it to replace head gasket on 07 E63?
No idea, but I imagine if you called some local dealers or independents they could give you a rough estimate.
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Old May 1, 2013 | 01:02 PM
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my 55 gives a puff every once in a while on cold startup - someone on here said it may just be excess blow-by from the EGR - shouldn't be a big concern...

maybe install a catch can to see how much oil is collecting
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Old May 1, 2013 | 01:04 PM
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dang i would pay for diagnostics to check it out though
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Old May 1, 2013 | 01:24 PM
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How hard is it to install a catch ?
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Old May 1, 2013 | 01:25 PM
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Simplest way to check for a headgasket leak would be one of these:

http://autoplicity.com/products/2362...gn=GSNOFITMENT

Good luck with it man. Maybe it's just a leaky valvestem or something. I used to get a small puff on startup on my Typhoon, but it was more of a white/blue puff indicating oil. As they've said here, all white = coolant/moisture
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Old May 1, 2013 | 01:28 PM
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Thank you ! I will order one today. But can anybody give me an estimate how much will it be to replace a head gasket ?
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You could also check the oil on your dipstick (E63 has dipstick...right?), if the oil is foamy / whitish residue or smells of coolant probably head gasket.
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Old May 1, 2013 | 01:36 PM
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conversely if you have oil in your radiator coolant it's another indicator. The tester I posted actually measures for combustion traces in your coolant, because you can still have a bad head gasket and have no milky oil or coolant. And for 30 bux you can get an answer that could save you an entire engine, because once you have an HG leak, if you keep beating on a boosted car it's just going to get bigger and bigger and then you run the risk of blowing some major internal pieces to hell.

I'm not finding any shop time estimates, but the gaskets are 75-80 bux a piece depending on what side.
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Old May 1, 2013 | 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Ronan Mc Cabe
white smoke normally = head gasket issues
I disagree with this statement since the OP stated that it happens just at start-up. My guess is it does not happen when warm outside and what you are seeing is just condensation (normal).

If you saw smoke all the time then it could be either coolant related (most likely a head gasket) or oil related (most likely valve guides or possibly a ring issue). Either way you can test easily for both scenarios if you are concerned.
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Old May 1, 2013 | 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by serge718
I just got 2007 E63 and when i start the car especially in the morning the car shoots out A LOT of white smoke but only on the start up ? Any idea what is the problem ?
how many miles on the car?
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Old May 1, 2013 | 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by serge718
Thank you ! I will order one today. But can anybody give me an estimate how much will it be to replace a head gasket ?
probably looking around 2 grand if they knew what they were doing
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Old May 1, 2013 | 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by berti_00
probably looking around 2 grand if they knew what they were doing
if i had to guess i would guess the same.
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Old May 1, 2013 | 06:56 PM
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Car has 98k on it. 2 grand - I'm so screwed ! Now I know why the dude that sold me the car was happy to take 20k for it... ;(
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Car has 98k on it. 2 grand - I'm so screwed ! Now I know why the dude that sold me the car was happy to take 20k for it... ;(
sorry to hear that man, i know how your feeling... but you should of maybe looked more into it, an 07 E63 for 20k somethings gotta be fishy about it.... hopefully its not your gaskets if so than yahhh its a big job
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Old May 1, 2013 | 07:28 PM
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Car has 98k on it. 2 grand - I'm so screwed ! Now I know why the dude that sold me the car was happy to take 20k for it... ;(
i saw it too while looking for E63/E55. I ended up paying $30k for mine with 65k miles. I guess its still not terrible even if you had to dump $2k doing a head gasket, just hope its nothing more than that. plus theres always the chance that theres nothing wrong with it. try removing the oil cap and look for a whitish residue, that would indicate water in the oil. That was one of the first things i would do when I was in the car business. Good Luck.
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Old May 1, 2013 | 10:43 PM
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E63 with 98k.. wow.. 20K should have been your primary warning....i was hesitant to buy mine with 64K. this my friend is gonna be a hard lesson learned. Do yourself a favor and not cheap out on the gasket repair if thats really the issue. Either way best of luck.
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Old May 1, 2013 | 11:32 PM
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Does the white smoke hang in the air or disapate quickly, does it smell sweet.
Not sure where you live but around this time of year we have in Canada cool evenings and then it warms up through the day. Condensation is normally seen a white,light, with little smell, of course as long as you still have the cats in place. As others have stated oil should not be milky, oil filler cap should not show condensation, and also coolant level in expansion tank should be checked daily/weekly to ensure no level change. Always check when stone cold for accurate measure. Avoid short runs where oil temp does not come up to normal, you will notice on one of the screens that the engine oil temp will flash until it reaches 80c which will take longer than the coolant temp. Good luck, do not worry yet!
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Engine will certainly not run on all 8 cyl if there is coolant leaking into the cyl.
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Old May 1, 2013 | 11:59 PM
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Don't mean to thread jack but on my E55 there is a little bit of white smoke always coming from the tailpipes, but it almost seems like steam. It floats up not even a foot above the tips before it dissipates, and when you put your hand above it, it is literally like steam from a sauce pan with boiling water. Smells normal, and when going WOT it doesn't smoke, or even 15 mins after WOT. Is this normal?
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Coolant/antifreeze will smell sweet and if the car is started in a small garage it would look like a fog bank if the coolant was burning in the cyl. Depending on the temp of the outside air and the humidity level sometimes you can see white/ clear smoke coming out. Coolant smoke will be thick and linger. If you really want peace, pull the sparkplugs and look for one or more that appear to be "steam cleaned" it will look like a brand new plug with no deposits on it, white porcelin included, this shows that coolant is entering and being burnt in the cyl. Remember sweet smell, dead giveaway!
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