new KLEEMANN alloy boost pulley!
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new KLEEMANN alloy boost pulley!
I am very pleased to announce the introduction of KLEEMANN's new all-alloy, 168mm boost pulley for the 113K engine! This is an all-alloy, non-dampened version of our OE-Style 168mm pulley and will be sold at substantial savings over our current 168. The Alloy Boost Kit will sell for $1495.00 including BMC air filters, new OE crank bolt, KLEEMANN badges and an ECU tune. Power gains remain the same as our current OE-style kit at about +30 WHP, +50 WTQ. Our new alloy pulley also features a reduction in rotating mass as it's 5 lbs. lighter than our OE-style pulley (Alloy pulley is ~6 lbs, OE style is ~11 lbs.). Unlike some of our competitors, we have designed our pulley to accept the factory crankshaft tool making installation quick and easy. Our new alloy kits are in stock, ready for immediate shipping and will fit ALL 113K engines. 
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never used kleemann stuff, but going by history pay more and play with the big Professional boys
enough of the small vendor rip offs
One of the oldest sponsors i have seen, lasted and stayed true
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enough of the small vendor rip offs
One of the oldest sponsors i have seen, lasted and stayed true
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Cory,
Can you explain the reasoning behind a "non-dampened" pulley? I'd always thought that having a dampener was critical for crank pullies.
I'm sure like all Kleemann products this is the "real deal" but it would be interesting to hear more about why it was designed this way.
Definitely a tempting price....
-G
Can you explain the reasoning behind a "non-dampened" pulley? I'd always thought that having a dampener was critical for crank pullies.
I'm sure like all Kleemann products this is the "real deal" but it would be interesting to hear more about why it was designed this way.
Definitely a tempting price....
-G
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Cory,
Can you explain the reasoning behind a "non-dampened" pulley? I'd always thought that having a dampener was critical for crank pullies.
I'm sure like all Kleemann products this is the "real deal" but it would be interesting to hear more about why it was designed this way.
Definitely a tempting price....
-G
Can you explain the reasoning behind a "non-dampened" pulley? I'd always thought that having a dampener was critical for crank pullies.
I'm sure like all Kleemann products this is the "real deal" but it would be interesting to hear more about why it was designed this way.
Definitely a tempting price....
-G
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Yikes, a non-dampened pulley. The RTR pulleys were also not dampened. There is a very good reason the factory built these with dampener. Sorry Cory, I'm not trying to hate, I just think this is a very dangerous game to be playing with a very expensive engine.
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Can you elaborate? EC has been selling non-dampened pulleys for quite some time without failures and from what I can tell, they seem to be very popular.
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i wouldnt touch a non-dampened pulley with a 10 ft pole on these cars after that.
https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...entucky-4.html
https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...-fell-off.html
replaced my non-dampened one with a asp dampened one like craig is talking about and never had a problem since
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me, urbamworm and a few other members had non dampened pulleys and they threw belts all the time and eventually vibrated themselves off the crankshaft even though they were torqued to correct spec...
i wouldnt touch a non-dampened pulley with a 10 ft pole on these cars after that.
https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...entucky-4.html
https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...-fell-off.html
replaced my non-dampened one with a asp dampened one like craig is talking about and never had a problem since
i wouldnt touch a non-dampened pulley with a 10 ft pole on these cars after that.
https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...entucky-4.html
https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...-fell-off.html
replaced my non-dampened one with a asp dampened one like craig is talking about and never had a problem since
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My pulley had over 10,000 miles on it before it came off. And the shop is a Mercedes repair/sale facility that did the install. I wouldn't say it is a no dampener pulley though since there is some weight to it. They must have something built inside the aluminum pieces that bolt together.
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In the early LSX modding days, non dampened pulleys were available for the economically challenged and while no one was breaking crankshafts or observing bearing damage, the timing chain would snap in half from harmonics and the pistons would smash the valves.
These cheapo pulleys work okay seemingly in the little import engines which almost all use timing belts and wouldn't transfer any crank vibrations so I wouldn't hesitate to use one of these in that application. I wouldn't even be too concerned honestly about one in a Mercedes since they're all automatic transmissions which have a torque converter full of fluid that will help dampen vibrations.
Theres two reasons I would never buy this.
1- The small savings isn't worth the risk since the cost of a replacement engine will total the car unless using a junkyard engine of unknown condition.
2- You guys as usual rob your customers with a 1000% price gouge over any other type of car. This pulley if it fit a Mustang would cost $100 maybe $120 . I know these cars are low production so I expect to pay more. Double even ! But hey , it's a free market so if as a customer this is what you want, jump on it!
These cheapo pulleys work okay seemingly in the little import engines which almost all use timing belts and wouldn't transfer any crank vibrations so I wouldn't hesitate to use one of these in that application. I wouldn't even be too concerned honestly about one in a Mercedes since they're all automatic transmissions which have a torque converter full of fluid that will help dampen vibrations.
Theres two reasons I would never buy this.
1- The small savings isn't worth the risk since the cost of a replacement engine will total the car unless using a junkyard engine of unknown condition.
2- You guys as usual rob your customers with a 1000% price gouge over any other type of car. This pulley if it fit a Mustang would cost $100 maybe $120 . I know these cars are low production so I expect to pay more. Double even ! But hey , it's a free market so if as a customer this is what you want, jump on it!
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In the early LSX modding days, non dampened pulleys were available for the economically challenged and while no one was breaking crankshafts or observing bearing damage, the timing chain would snap in half from harmonics and the pistons would smash the valves.
These cheapo pulleys work okay seemingly in the little import engines which almost all use timing belts and wouldn't transfer any crank vibrations so I wouldn't hesitate to use one of these in that application. I wouldn't even be too concerned honestly about one in a Mercedes since they're all automatic transmissions which have a torque converter full of fluid that will help dampen vibrations.
Theres two reasons I would never buy this.
1- The small savings isn't worth the risk since the cost of a replacement engine will total the car unless using a junkyard engine of unknown condition.
2- You guys as usual rob your customers with a 1000% price gouge over any other type of car. This pulley if it fit a Mustang would cost $100 maybe $120 . I know these cars are low production so I expect to pay more. Double even ! But hey , it's a free market so if as a customer this is what you want, jump on it!
These cheapo pulleys work okay seemingly in the little import engines which almost all use timing belts and wouldn't transfer any crank vibrations so I wouldn't hesitate to use one of these in that application. I wouldn't even be too concerned honestly about one in a Mercedes since they're all automatic transmissions which have a torque converter full of fluid that will help dampen vibrations.
Theres two reasons I would never buy this.
1- The small savings isn't worth the risk since the cost of a replacement engine will total the car unless using a junkyard engine of unknown condition.
2- You guys as usual rob your customers with a 1000% price gouge over any other type of car. This pulley if it fit a Mustang would cost $100 maybe $120 . I know these cars are low production so I expect to pay more. Double even ! But hey , it's a free market so if as a customer this is what you want, jump on it!
I'm sorry you think we're price gouging- this is of course, your opinion and I can respect that. I'd hate to know what you think of the $4380.00 pulley kit RT offers...
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Why don't you guys charge 4k too? You'll probably sell more because someone out there will assume its better the more overpriced it is. 
I'm just giving you a hard time and I know I shouldn't because it's your sales thread(albeit in the wrong forum) I'm just a sassy little **** today
I'm just giving you a hard time and I know I shouldn't because it's your sales thread(albeit in the wrong forum) I'm just a sassy little **** today
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Why don't you guys charge 4k too? You'll probably sell more because someone out there will assume its better the more overpriced it is. I'm just giving you a hard time and I know I shouldn't because it's your sales thread(albeit in the wrong forum) I'm just a sassy little **** today
I'm just giving you a hard time and I know I shouldn't because it's your sales thread(albeit in the wrong forum) I'm just a sassy little **** today
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Chris and I see eye to eye on this, it's just not worth taking the risk. It's not like pulling out balance shafts and ending up with a bit of vibration at idle. The dampener is an important part of eliminating vibrations through the crank. I just think some things aren't worth saving the money on. It's one thing to lessen the life span on a engine simply due to higher engine output, that's the bargain we all make to go fast, but to simply cheap out and end up with something that's not right isn't worth it IMO. Plus Cory you guys are a premium company, I hate to see you selling a sub par part!
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Chris and I see eye to eye on this, it's just not worth taking the risk. It's not like pulling out balance shafts and ending up with a bit of vibration at idle. The dampener is an important part of eliminating vibrations through the crank. I just think some things aren't worth saving the money on. It's one thing to lessen the life span on a engine simply due to higher engine output, that's the bargain we all make to go fast, but to simply cheap out and end up with something that's not right isn't worth it IMO. Plus Cory you guys are a premium company, I hate to see you selling a sub par part!
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I produced and tested three versions of the non damped pulleys...look on a stock pulley, there will be a frequency printed on it...dont you think the unlimited engineering budget of Mercedes Benz will have a reason for this? The frequency will offset the negative vibration produced by by the engine. The damper will absorb and help cancel it. Run from the non damped pulley.
Cory, i was your top one or two dealer for a couple years in the early 2000's. be careful with this.
Cory, i was your top one or two dealer for a couple years in the early 2000's. be careful with this.
