W211 AMG Discuss the W211 AMG's such as the E55 and the E63

Anyone run a v.2 CTS-V yet?

Old Jul 2, 2013 | 09:11 AM
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Say it again becuz they dont hear u tho lol, Benz is a way better car overall even thought the ctsv may be a little faster and handle a little better, keep in mind that the 55k was made from 04-06 and the ctsv-2 started in 09. That being said Cadillac was smart enough to build the ctsv-2 to be better than that current year w211 (E63), the BMW E60 and the Audi RS6. I use the word "Better" loosely lol. I rather my 55k all day, its just an overall better car, not to mention its panty dropping points. #BenzLife #BenzLove
That is even a better point about the years produced and what was what! Also correct about the ctsv-2 to the e63 but Mindbend is right...Panty dropping points is GREAT!

So BlueML: Great statement!

...and I will not dispute the handling of the CTS-V...my 2004 handled incredible! I didn't really try any handling on the new one I drove but if it is better (which we can all assume) then it must be even more incredible. I, for one, am not a handling guy so it is not a big deal for me. Don't care for turns!

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Old Jul 2, 2013 | 10:25 AM
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I’m no AMG or Caddy nut hugger. With that being said, a CTS-V does not have the panache of an E55k, but it is in no way inferior to a W211. A W212 is a little better, but not a W211. The interior of a W211 is very nice and feels good, but I am not missing it one bit driving the Caddy. I think the basic difference on the inside is that the Mercedes has more of a luxurious feel and the Caddy has more of a sporty feel to it similar to driving a M3 with newer tech. Now a base CTS is inferior to base W211 or W212, but not a V. This will all change with the 2014 V-Sport that is about to hit the streets, but I digress.

The exterior is love me or hate me. I think those who hate it dislike it for one or both of these reasons:

1. It’s very angular.
2. It’s aggressively designed.
3. It’s an American brand. (Period)

If the same exact car was made by a European make like Audi or Maserati with the same exact design and specs sans the emblems a course I believe most people worldwide would view this car more favorably. It's similar to the way people currently view Hyundai vs. other brands. For similar money most would rather drive a less attractive vehicle than be seen in a Hyundai. The same outlook holds true for any American car that embark on territory traditionally dominated by the Europeans. We all know the historical reasons why so I will leave it at that.

Now overall, my CTS-V gets WAY more attention on the streets then my E55k ever did, but who cares. Justin simply wanted to hear our opinions of how we thought the E55k performed against the 2009-2014 CTS-V.

In closing, a V series Cadillac will never ever have the flair of an AMG or M, but a V is darn good cost effective alternative.
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Old Jul 2, 2013 | 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Hotsoss
It’s an American brand. (Period)

If the same exact car was made by a European make like Audi or Maserati with the same exact design and specs sans the emblems a course I believe most people worldwide would view this car more favorably. It's similar to the way people currently view Hyundai vs. other brands. For similar money most would rather drive a less attractive vehicle than be seen in a Hyundai. The same outlook holds true for any American car that embark on territory traditionally dominated by the Europeans. We all know the historical reasons why so I will leave it at that.
Agreed, as evidenced by the panty dropper comments. I'm curious to know if anyone considers any American cars to be panty droppers?
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Old Jul 2, 2013 | 10:40 AM
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Stock for stock, the supercharged CTS-V is slightly faster than an E55. They are CONSISTENT high 11s/low 12s @117-118 cars. Of course, a novice driver is an exception, but the the CTS-V SHOULD be faster every time on stock cars. I am leaving factory freaks etc. out of the question, but this is the norm.

Anybody who argues otherwise is an AMG brand ***** or has never driven a V, or both.
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Old Jul 2, 2013 | 10:48 AM
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Bottom line, a CTSV will kick a E55 *** ! lol
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Old Jul 2, 2013 | 10:50 AM
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Agreed, as evidenced by the panty dropper comments. I'm curious to know if anyone considers any American cars to be panty droppers?
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Old Jul 2, 2013 | 10:56 AM
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Old Jul 2, 2013 | 11:01 AM
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Agreed, as evidenced by the panty dropper comments. I'm curious to know if anyone considers any American cars to be panty droppers?
Stock for stock, the supercharged CTS-V is faster than an E55. They are CONSISTENT high 11s @117-118 cars. Of course, a novice driver is an exception, but the the CTS-V SHOULD be faster every time on stock cars.

Anybody who argues otherwise is an AMG brand ***** or has never driven a V, or both.
Agreed. I'll be the first to say that the competition (E/CLS 63/M5/RS7) has indeed caught up and past the V in straightline acceleration. Like the E55 a CTS-V would need to tweaked a little to compete with new competition in stock guise, but those cars cost 35k + more than a V2. Like I said earlier, if you drop 2-3k into a V2 it will surpass any of the cars mentioned. A course those cars can be tuned and the tables turn, but like most things its a matter of how much money you are willing to spend. You can drop another 2-3k into a V and be running very low 10's. Now the new E63/CLS63 4Matic will bitc* slap a V and it will take a full stage 2-3 just to compete with a stock one. No V will stand a chance against any of these cars from a dig unless it is highly modified and/or running slicks. A role race will probably be similiar to the current model. The same will probably hold true with the RS7.
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Old Jul 2, 2013 | 11:02 AM
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Old Jul 2, 2013 | 11:03 AM
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Sure, both old and new!
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Most girls impressed by the status of your car to drop their panties wouldn't know what most of those were. The .01% that drop clam hammocks cause they actually know what you're driving and respect it would also have respect for a CTS-V.

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Old Jul 2, 2013 | 11:13 AM
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The .01% that drop clam hammocks


HOLY SH***** DUDE, THAT JUST KILLED ME!! hahahahhaha
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Old Jul 2, 2013 | 11:41 AM
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Shi*! If I had an E55 making your kind of power (540rwhp/565rwtq) I would be hunting V's as well! Your car should humiliate a stock V and surprise a few unsuspecting mildly modified or even pullied V owners.
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I strongly strongly disagree . I've built countless pro-touring musclecars for both myself and others, and just about everytime I take one out, somebody drops a comment or comes to take a look. It's not so much the status of the car, most of them have no idea that they cost as much as a Gallardo or 430 Ferrari , it's just that everybody likes a clean classic and would like to go for a ride!



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Most girls impressed by the status of your car to drop their panties wouldn't know what most of those were. The .01% that drop clam hammocks cause they actually know what you're driving and respect it would also have respect for a CTS-V.



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Old Jul 2, 2013 | 11:57 AM
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I agree. Another reason, for me, is that the US Gov't doesn't own MB!
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Old Jul 2, 2013 | 12:10 PM
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Old Jul 2, 2013 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Sir-Boost-a-Lot
I strongly strongly disagree . I've built countless pro-touring musclecars for both myself and others, and just about everytime I take one out, somebody drops a comment or comes to take a look. It's not so much the status of the car, most of them have no idea that they cost as much as a Gallardo or 430 Ferrari , it's just that everybody likes a clean classic and would like to go for a ride!
I may have missed something but I didn't notice anyone saying that people don't look at older cars. I have plenty of those and they attract more attention then any newer cars except possibly for ridiculous supercars.
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The next gen (V3) CTS has my attention. I am anxiously awaiting the CTS-V version, but for now, here's a badass rendering and some actual shots of the "regular V3 CTS:

















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Old Jul 2, 2013 | 01:09 PM
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Yea, that looks sick. This will also bring the price of the V2s down and mods are dirt cheap.
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Old Jul 2, 2013 | 01:13 PM
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Old Jul 2, 2013 | 01:21 PM
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Denroll: I would love to see that first rendering with the signature V crate grill. Very nice rendering none the less.
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Originally Posted by Sir-Boost-a-Lot
I strongly strongly disagree . I've built countless pro-touring musclecars for both myself and others, and just about everytime I take one out, somebody drops a comment or comes to take a look. It's not so much the status of the car, most of them have no idea that they cost as much as a Gallardo or 430 Ferrari , it's just that everybody likes a clean classic and would like to go for a ride!
Agreed....if you're trying to pick up dudes.

I've just never seen a chick, who has the mindset at dropping her panties upon seeing a car they are impressed with, get excited over an old car. I imagine that the girls who drop toe floss over the sight of a car care about one thing....image, or rather brand recognition.
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that the girls who drop toe floss over the sight of a car .
hahahahahaha, the phrases don't stop!
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